DATING a WOMAN who was a MAN

[helium-4]

^^^ Who's talking about relationships?! I think a few of the guys I had sex with didn't care if I was a guy, the others were mostly only interested in sex. I tell the guys to NOT fall into love with me, "I'm NOT looking 4 a LTR." The only thing I lie abut is my age. Only maybe one or two asked if I was a guy (or something 2 that affect), I refused to answer once and almost got into trouble the second time. I pretty much gave up my slutty ways and think now, to turn off guys I may just tell them (with a smile), "I used 2 b a guy." and see how they react.

I was responding to the topic not you.

 

[GoddessLSD-XTC]

I'm responding to the subject and in defence of transsexuals, like myself!

 

[helium-4]

In defense of what? Transexuals lying about their gender when in a relationship or just involved in sexual activity?

I'm sorry but you can't defend that. You are being the one in the wrong.

 

[uncle-jimmy]

^^^ Who's talking about relationships?! I think a few of the guys I had sex with didn't care if I was a guy, the others were mostly only interested in sex. I tell the guys to NOT fall into love with me, "I'm NOT looking 4 a LTR." The only thing I lie abut is my age. Only maybe one or two asked if I was a guy (or something 2 that affect), I refused to answer once and almost got into trouble the second time. I pretty much gave up my slutty ways and think now, to turn off guys I may just tell them (with a smile), "I used 2 b a guy." and see how they react.

This is so wrong,One day you will try to pull the wool over the wrong redneck and it will be lights out for this tranny

 

[GoddessLSD-XTC]

Yes, I realize the risks i was taking and am no longer the slut I was. I don't believe a TS should lie (by omission) if a relation developes. I try and avoid haveing to explain myself by telling guys that I'm not looking 4 a LTR (unless they are rich/famous or . . .).

 

[Rogue Robot]

^^ I agree. You shouldn't have to explain yourself unless you are in a developed relationship with someone. I think the point that most people are missing is that you're female now.

I still don't see why it matters about what sex you were before.

 

[helium-4]

I think if you are a transsexual you should tell them that you are one before you get in a relationship with them. To me its just wrong.

I'd had to find out after I started to get involved that they were really a man. I think it should be up front unless it's just purely a friendship and still, even if it's a pure friendship I would think that there should be enough trust in the relationship to tell them.

If you were born a male, I'm sorry you will always be male. If you have the XY you're a male.

 

[sugarcoated]

So I had the bad fortune to be born with the condition of transsexuality. I've known something was "wrong" since I was 4 years old, on the up side I'm in my mid 20's, I started taking female hormones when I was 17 years old and I've lived as a normal woman for almost my entire adult life. I am what's generally called "deep stealth". Not even my closest friends have any idea that I am anything but a normal woman. And that's how it will stay.

This thread has totally firmed up my belief that "deep stealth" is the only way to live. I will never ever ever willingly out myself to anyone precisely because of the type of ignorance displayed in this thread.

I feel absolutely no obligation to out myself to either a one night stand or a boyfriend that I've had for years. It's nice to be womanly enough to have that option.

Watch out guys, I'm in ur bed makin u haz sex with a man.

 

[helium-4]

Ignorance? Yeah were extremely ignorant when you try and pretend you are a real XX female when you involve yourself in a relationship or sexual activity with.

The fact that I'm a straight male that doesn't want to be fooled by a transsexual doesn't make me ignorant. I'm sure most of the guys in this thread with the same opinion as me believe there are nothing wrong with transsexuals and more power to you to try and live a life as a women, but we all think you shouldn't lie about what gender you really are when involving yourself in a relationship or sexual activity. The fact is if you don't tell us you are lying! You are not really a female. You contain XY chromosome so no matter how much you wish to be a female.

Some of this hate towards transsexuals stem from yours and other actions with that attitude. If you go and sleep with a man who doesn't know that you are a transsexual and he finds out how do you expect him to act? Be ok with it? Be happy that he sleeped with someone who lied about being a XX female? Come on now....

 

[TheDEA.org]

I would hit that pussy like it owed me money, Y chromosome be damned.


It's a big world out there. No need to look down on people who are uncomfortable about such things, and no need to look down on people who aren't.

 

[GoddessLSD-XTC]

Cloudy, if U couldn't tell the first time U slept with a tranny that she was a he, U know nothing about female anatomy!

Sugarcoated, Great that U can go "deep stealth." Too many ppl in town know me and I started pretty late in life.

I think, once a guy starts to get serious with U (talking and looking like love) you have an obligation to tell the truth because of babies.

Some of my TS friends told the truth and the guys still loved them. I know If it happened to me whe I was a guy I'd be kinda shocked 'cause I pick up on vibes pretty quick & know pussy when I see/finger it!

Did U have SRS? I went to Bangkok.

DEA, it's hard to believe she was a guy unless she got hip implants. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harisu Maybe if U start hormones earlier hip bones grow? Maybe some guys have 'em. . . some grls have "boy hips." Anyway, I love that part of female anatomy

 

[socko]

Not sure if you're trolling us, sugarcoated, so I'm goign to take your comment at face value. I think going around fooling people the way you're doing, sugarcoated, is anti-social. Stealth mode is fine up to a certain point. But it's kind of an unspoken common courtesy and basic human decency to tell them before you reach the level where you get involved. Sexual preference and gender identity are a strong part of people's identities. If and when they find out, it can be very traumatic. I speak from experience.

 

[helium-4]

Cloudy, if U couldn't tell the first time U slept with a tranny that she was a he, U know nothing about female anatomy!

Sugarcoated, Great that U can go "deep stealth." Too many ppl in town know me and I started pretty late in life.

I think, once a guy starts to get serious with U (talking and looking like love) you have an obligation to tell the truth because of babies.

Some of my TS friends told the truth and the guys still loved them. I know If it happened to me whe I was a guy I'd be kinda shocked 'cause I pick up on vibes pretty quick & know pussy when I see/finger it!

Did U have SRS? I went to Bangkok.

DEA, it's hard to believe she was a guy unless she got hip implants. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harisu Maybe if U start hormones earlier hip bones grow? Maybe some guys have 'em. . . some grls have "boy hips." Anyway, I love that part of female anatomy

First of all don't try and lay any personal attacks, no one is attacking you.

Second of all I've never slept with a transsexual so yeah sorry, I'm ignorant about the differences between a real and fabricated vagina.

 

[sugarcoated]

Cloudy-

I don't pretend anything, I simply am as I am. If someone likes me they like me for who I *am*. not for my chromosomes. I prefer to keep it that way.

What you don't seem to understand is that "living life as a woman" and deep stealth go hand in hand. There's no way to live life as a woman and be "out" with people. The fact that you view transsexuals as "men" proves my point. Deep stealth is the only way to actually be a woman socially.

A lot of you guys seem to be obsessed with chromosomes. Are any of you aware that there are women, born with vaginas and everything that have Y chromosomes that simply never activated. If you find out that a woman born with a uterus and all that good stuff has a Y chromosome due to some fluke of nature, are you really going to care about her chromosomes?

As far as peoples feelings towards transsexuals as a whole. I wish everyone could understand the torment that being born with the transsexual condition causes and be more sympathetic and come to understand that calling someone born transsexual their old gender is horribly offensive and soul shattering on a very deep level. But since i live as a normal woman peoples perceptions of transsexuals as a whole don't really affect me except on an emotional level.

If someone ever "finds out" about me then I hope they do the merciful thing and just kill me. The idea of being "out" as a transsexual is honestly that horrible.

Goddess- I'm pre-op but I think you should have thrown extra money at a labiaplasty or considered a different surgeon. It is not at all unheard of for professional gynocologist to have a hard time telling the difference between a well done SRS and a "genuine" vagina until they go inside and note that the cervix is missing (and at one point at least one surgeon was making a psuedo cervix).

Honestly I'd like to know who your surgeon was and what version of the operation you got so I can avoid that one.


I don't know if it's due to starting HRT at 17 and having a good three years of "female puberty" during my actual puberty, but I've got decently wide hips.

Also "babies" isn't an issue because I will simply say that I was born without a uterus . This is what I tell doctors when they ask about my last period. (Unless they have to see me naked)

http://www.drspock.com/article/0,1510,6204,00.html

 

[Crankinit]

If it was after a random hookup: I'd be angry that they didn't tell me, and feel very deceived, but otherwise just chalk it down to another interesting experience and a cool story to tell.

As far as relationships go: I would never enter a relationship with someone I knew used to be a man. Most importantly, because I'd like to think any serious relationship I entered could possibly end up with having children, in the distant future, should that decision be made. With a transexual, that's impossible. Also the chance of them having serious head issues is really high, and thats not something I'd want to deal with.

This is assuming they're basically undetectable. If they exhibited any of the traits that usually give trannies away, then I'd avoid any kind of sexual/romantic contact, simply because I find masculinity a huge turnoff.

 

[GoddessLSD-XTC]

Say Sugar, wish i started much earlier. It was taboo and unheard of when I was your age. Mom scolded me when I told her, "I wanna B a girl!"

I do alright with my V as long as I don't spread my legs too far in the light. I've been in shower rooms with other women and no one pays any attention 2 me I'm very natural now, rarely get clocked.

Love to get 2 know U more! Visit my profile here (with links 2 MySpace and my webpage) and send a message!

Do U want SRS? One of the problems 4 me is the skin looks different town there, U can see scar-like tissue.

Here's a pic of my V (I had one clit orgasm via self-stimulation . . . it wasn't easy & I haven't been able to repeat it at will):

NSFW:

See how the skin is pink?

 

[SvnLyrBrto]

I would hit that pussy like it owed me money, Y chromosome be damned.


It's a big world out there. No need to look down on people who are uncomfortable about such things, and no need to look down on people who aren't.

The problem isn't that those people don't want to be in a relationship with a TS. BFD on that one, they probably have sexual preferences that I don't share. Hell, it's not even as if I've ever specifically sought out a TS girl. It's not my kink.... just that that little detail just wouldn't especially bother me if she's someone I'm already into. It's a big world, as you say.

The problem is that those people are threatening and advocating VIOLENCE against others based on their sexual preferences and identities. That IS a big problem. It's utterly uncivilized and damn straight it is a VERY legitimate reason to look down on them.


cya,
john

 

[BumpyJohnson]

he gone!

 

[caius]

A lot of you guys seem to be obsessed with chromosomes. Are any of you aware that there are women, born with vaginas and everything that have Y chromosomes that simply never activated. If you find out that a woman born with a uterus and all that good stuff has a Y chromosome due to some fluke of nature, are you really going to care about her chromosomes?

qft.

many posters in this thread act as though most people get their chromosomes checked before they know their 'real' sex.

i don't see how chromosomes tell you anything. even if the person is transgender, that doesn't mean they will have their birth sex's chromosomes (people have lots of different chromosomal configurations). for my money, all this talking about chromosomes is trying to explain away socially conditioned prejudices by acting like there's a legitimate basis for them.

 

[BumpyJohnson]

I think the point that most people are missing is that you're female now.

taking female hormones and having multiple multiple surgeries doesn't make one a female.. it wouldn't make me one and it has never for you as well.. in my opinion, anything else is a cop-out.. call it what it is.. Gender Identity Disorder(GID)