Heroin Dark blood and bright blood from same vein

[Knighttrain]

I'm trying to remembeR the differencE from first aids class and I want to say the bright red blood is oxygenated but I'm not sure. Anyhow I've noticed over time that sometimes I'll ht a vein and draw dark blood and using the same vein I'll hit it and it's bright red, or the other way around going from dark to light. I'm pretty sure my bloods travel the same way so what gives here?

 

[josie]

I dont think its the color of the blood that makes a difference. If you're having to try different veins always start by squirting a tiny bit in and waiting.. in less than 20 seconds you'll know if you're good to go o rif you need ot get out of it immediately. You do not want to hit in an artery

 

[ykm420]

See, I always heard 'dark blood is an artery' but then I heard opposite. While injecting I've encountered both, and neither have had ANY negative effect whatsoever. I got my full rush, no pain, nothing.

 

[Knighttrain]

I'm not having trouble hitting and i'm getting the desires effect it just seems like the blood would be having to go another direction all together, I just wondered if anyone had experienced the same thing

 

[DieselFuel]

According to various people and the Harm Reduction Coalition, dark, slow-moving blood should be a vein; bright red, gushing blood - an artery. Hitting the same vein? Sounds weird... how often has this happened? Be careful...

 

[K88ABY]

Happens to me all the time.. in fact i shot yesterday in exactly the same place as normal and registered 'blood' in the crook of my arm.. then for a nano second of pushing my whole lower arm burned up.. got hives all over and couldn't even clench a fist. it's ok now but im on the subs dammit. Red frothy blood is definitely artery. Dark blood, vein. remember as well that they are extremely close together..

 

[josie]

I disagree I think the only sign i can tell of an artery, at least on me, is the horrible pain after puttin something in it. I've hit arteries several times and the only difference (no pulsing into the syringe, no "red frothy" blood) was the pain afterwards. I've hit all over and seen dark blood, bright red blood, bubbly blood, all come out of a vein..

 

[OxyMedic]

I disagree I think the only sign i can tell of an artery, at least on me, is the horrible pain after puttin something in it. I've hit arteries several times and the only difference (no pulsing into the syringe, no "red frothy" blood) was the pain afterwards. I've hit all over and seen dark blood, bright red blood, bubbly blood, all come out of a vein..

I agree I've hit the same vein and have gotten bright red and dark blood on multiple occasions I've alsonseen it while doing Iv's on patients. The feeling when you try to/pierce an artery is painful compared to piercing a vein. Feel the area for a pulse next time just to be sure.

 

[Nagelfar]

I've hit an artery twice. My whole arm swelled, it felt like molten metal was being poured down my arm from the site to my finger tips. Others who have done it said they also get a taste like metal on the back of their tongue and it feels like their back teeth are exploding. I didn't notice that, but I was in a panic because of the red ball-point pen looking lines, three of them, zig-zagging down the underside of my arm and the white knuckles on my hand of that arm swollen to at least half again it's normal size.

Usually the blood of an artery is bright pink (it's frothy only if you infiltrate it, and are getting the blood pushed around the wound you've made inside) and if it's a clean hit, the blood shoots into the rig with a lot of pressure and "spirals" around when it flags/plumes. You'll know it. It'll be hard to push in too, but you won't notice pain until the whole shot is in.

Different colored blood from same area is likely just infiltrating (pushing all the way through one vein) past one and into another.

Arteries are bright pink blood as my experiences go.

If you're shooting H you'll get much more of a histamine release too, and all the way along your arm, but by then it's too late.

 

[Knighttrain]

I guess I hit an artery years ago then when my arm caught fire and my hand swelled up and got rock hard, my friend tried to tell me I shot up a piece of cotton but it was no cotton fever from what I hear

 

[ms4104]

Yeah I hit an artery once with like a TINY bit maybe a few units no more than 2. My whole hand blew up like arm turned red and shit.. it was kinda scary. Honestl yI just knicked it.. the blood didnt even loos suspect but it instantly burned when I injected thank god I wasnt a retard and didnt keep going lol

 

[josie]

Arteries pulse. Veins do not.

 

[Tchort]

Keep in mind whether you are in withdrawal or not when taking a shot. Dehydration and changes in blood pressure (I think?) can have an impact on how the blood looks when it enters the syringe barrel. When in a pretty bad way, the blood would slowly 'leak' into the barrel, look dark and almost 'goopy'; but when normally hydrated, eating normally, etc while on a habit, and not yet in withdrawal, it's the normal bright red flower blossom reaction when pulling back on the plunger.

 

[thugpassion]

Like some people have already said lite red color blood flows in arterys and the dark red in the veins. If your getting lite colored blood when you register than Id pull out and try again. Veins and arteys can run right next to each other paralell so moving either way only slightly can mean the differance between hitting a vein or an artery. In the crook down to your forarm the veins and arteries run right next to each other. If you think your in an artery only push in a very very small amount you'll be able to tell if your in an artery instead of a vein, because if your in an artery and like push in a whole 1cc you will be real sorry......oh like they said above arteries have a pulse veins don't.

 

[Mind-Melt]

I have noticed this too, two different colors of blood when drawing from the same vein and nearly the identical injection location (maybe 1/4 of an inch either distally or proximally("up" or "down" the vein)). Not once have I ever hit an artery. I'm guessing the cause is something to the effect of what TChort said, it just depends on exactly how much oxygen is in the blood observed. i'm pretty sure that each pump of the heart produces minorly different results depending on your breathing, respiratory system, or circulatory system. combine this with the valves that are in your veins and there is probably some amount of variable when observing the color of venous blood.

be safe mate.

 

[doppelganga196]

Maybe you got a flash out a vein then registered in an artery or vice versa?

 

[Ayrios]

Arteries pulse. Veins do not.

While that's true, you can often feel an indirect (but strong) pulse through a vein due to proximity, often in the elbow or wrist (and obviously the femerol *shiver*). The median cubital in the crook of the arm some people I've known (as I thought my first time IV'ing, too) initially thought was a big fat artery because you can feel your brachial pulse so strongly when touching it. Best way to avoid an artery, besides NEVER "digging around" if your entry isn't straight into the in-zone (while so many HR advocates still recommend digging around *puzzled*), is shallower angles and excessive studying of vascular maps noting every little exception from the norm in your personal vascular layout--we're all very different from Gray's "ideals," and the veins on my right arm often split and have valves in locations of an inch or more offset from those of my left. It's a vascular jungle out there--diverse and chaotic

More on point, I don't really understand how so many people get so far as attempting to register in an artery, much less pushing in... Artery's so sensitive with so many pain receptors along it that it will usually hurt merely when punctured, isn't that the case? I could be wrong, having not had this displeasure. Then again, I've entered a vein that mysteriously hurt, registered, and delivered the payload despite it stinging like hell as I injected into a valve :/ We all get overly anxious on the way to a fix sometimes I guess...

 

[Knighttrain]

Keep in mind whether you are in withdrawal or not when taking a shot. Dehydration and changes in blood pressure (I think?) can have an impact on how the blood looks when it enters the syringe barrel. When in a pretty bad way, the blood would slowly 'leak' into the barrel, look dark and almost 'goopy'; but when normally hydrated, eating normally, etc while on a habit, and not yet in withdrawal, it's the normal boright red flower blossom reaction when pulling back on the plunger.

Man thats probably it, I almost mentioned that I usually get the bright blood when the vein is "fresh", not getting beat up on the regular since it's my favorite and itd had a break I must be fairly clean.0

 

[josie]

More on point, I don't really understand how so many people get so far as attempting to register in an artery, much less pushing in... Artery's so sensitive with so many pain receptors along it that it will usually hurt merely when punctured, isn't that the case? I could be wrong, having not had this displeasure.

Answer is simple... Sometimes I don't care how much it hurts, I just want that shot. Isn't that sick? I've shot in the palms of my hands, the veins on the tops of the inside of my fingers... OUCH!

 

[Pissangel]

I've shot in the palms of my hands, the veins on the tops of the inside of my fingers... OUCH!

Wow. I couldn't even imagine shooting into the veins in my palms. That can't be an easy task to say the least; I struggle enough sometimes with the regular, more common areas. But when you want that shot, you want it.

I, personally, have not seen two different colours of blood coming out of my veins. Generally in my experience, it's a medium, regular red. Not too dark, not too light. I've always heard the lighter coloured blood is from the artery, and definitely a sign to take that sucker out and re-register. Be careful, injecting into arteries, (or even coming close to doing so), is nothing to take lightly.