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Dangers Associated with DMT

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MrSexypancake

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So a friend came through and got me a fair amount of DMT recently. I have used it in the past, but I've never blasted off. I don't know why I can't seem to get there.

My GF came over and tried it for the first time and was completely gone to Mars for the duration of her trip. She described it as uncomfortable and said nothing felt real for a while after coming back down.

I want to load up a large amount and hit all of the vapor at once, but don't know if that will be too much. I don't have that much experience with this stuff, and have no idea what kind of negative effects it has on a user. I know people say it doesn't, but sucking anything into your lungs shouldn't be good for them. Do I need to worry about the Napthalene? Is there a method both safe and likely to blast me off?

I just ask because hallucinogens have never altered my outlook on life in a profound manner, yet this is why I initially delved into them.


Thanks,
S.P.
 
Lungwise, make sure you don't burn the spice: use a gvg or look up "the machine" for an efficient cheap device. Correctly vaporized, you should be left wondering if you really inhaled anything, then...
Let your spice to dry out if you're concerned about the naphta, it evaporates pretty quick.
Freaking out is an option, so it's best to have a sitter if you intend breaking through.
 
mozaik0000 said:
Correctly vaporized, you should be left wondering if you really inhaled anything, then...
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I can ALWAYS taste it. It's the harshest thing I've ever smoked. Given that I started in a weird order and that I had only ever smoked pot before I tried DMT for the first time, but it left an impression. Is freaking out a risk when the trip only lasts 20 or so minutes? Worst that ever happened to me was laying down in the driveway after hitting the pipe with no one able to move me.
 
Dangers are falling once you hit the pipe so sit down and make sure to lie down right after the hit, also make sure the bowl isnt rolling and set it down right away you have a few seconds to do all this.

Next make sure your mind is in the right state, if your worried it might be scary point your mind to peace and the heavens and have a good time
 
Letting the vapor cool off a bit helps with the taste. DMT vapor is def. not tasteless, but hardly the harshest smoke ever either (or my technique sucks too, who knows..)
 
MrSexypancake said:
So a friend came through and got me a fair amount of DMT recently. I have used it in the past, but I've never blasted off. I don't know why I can't seem to get there.

My GF came over and tried it for the first time and was completely gone to Mars for the duration of her trip. She described it as uncomfortable and said nothing felt real for a while after coming back down.

I want to load up a large amount and hit all of the vapor at once, but don't know if that will be too much. I don't have that much experience with this stuff, and have no idea what kind of negative effects it has on a user. I know people say it doesn't, but sucking anything into your lungs shouldn't be good for them. Do I need to worry about the Napthalene? Is there a method both safe and likely to blast me off?

I just ask because hallucinogens have never altered my outlook on life in a profound manner, yet this is why I initially delved into them.


Thanks,
S.P.
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Smoking it is pretty gross IMO. The smoke is not pleasant.
 
I think it would go better if I let someone else drive while I hit, because often my depth perception gets messed up when looking at the bowl.
 
I've always found it very difficult to inhale enough DMT to get beyond threshold when smoking it. I prefer taking it orally with an MAOI.
 
The smoke really isn't that rough imo. There are way harsher chemicals. Could also be because I smoke blunts and cigerattes so my lungs are used to the harshness lol.
 
mozaik0000 said:
Then your vaporization technique or material isn't optimal, and you're burning instead of vaporizing.
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I can second this. Too much heat and the vapor turns to an acrid smoke that burns alllllll the way down to the lungs and lingers. I wrote off the bottle method because I unknowingly burnt my material. Properly done and it's very smooth. Not TASTELESS but not at all unpleasant, in my opinion. Though regardless of vape technique I always get a really wierd feeling like my teeth are all about to shatter or fall apart. Anyone else get this? My teeth are kind of shitty so I just attributed the sensation to that fact.
 
Maybe you're getting Meth, Penthos. At least that's a thing you hear a lot on documentaries :D (I guess it's not uncommon with vaporizing)
 
i have found that the smoke quickly gets harsher as the dmt ages. fresh, white dmt is very smooth but yellow/orange gooey stuff is very harsh to the point of hardly being smokable (by me anyway).
but even fresh dmt is basic with a pKa of nearly 9, so it surely isn't healthy for the lungs (but nothing to worry about for one larger dose, at least if you aren't asthmatic or something).

there's no need to worry about naphthalene, the naphtha used to extract dmt (despite its name) doesn't contain naphthalene. and if any significant amount of solvent had still remained in the dmt, you would smell it.
 
mozaik0000 said:
Lungwise, make sure you don't burn the spice: use a gvg or look up "the machine" for an efficient cheap device. Correctly vaporized, you should be left wondering if you really inhaled anything, then...
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I agree on this for the most part. When I get a really big hit I can generally tell but I almost always exhale just a little bit to make sure and then hold my breath as long as I can. When I burn it though, ugghh.. terrible.

As another option for vaporization a variation on the machine is a tire gauge crack pipe. Use two chore boy screens and sandwich your spice between them. Hold the lighter away from the screen (don't touch the flame too it) and use your breath to control the heat (suck harder to get the spice to melt/heat up your pipe and then slower as you're taking your hit so you don't overheat and burn it). It takes some practice but I can breakthrough off one hit with this technique and it doesn't require a $100 investment or a drill to make.
 
I recommend that as well: changing your vaping method, especially to include chore boy or other steel mesh products. Always heat stuff like that long and well before use, over the stove or with a good lighter - often machine oil comes seeping out.

And no, naphtha gets it's name from being an oil derivative which goes through a naphtha cracker, naphthalene is another compound but the hydrocarbons in naphtha are not very healthy either - even if their carcinogenic potential is limited by comparison. So yes, dry your DMT well first by just exposing it to air. I find that the smell that comes off it can shift deceptively from naphtha to the floral quality of DMT, just don't overdo it with the air exposure or you will get DMT N-oxide. Seal it well after you have dried it.

Generally no problem if you want to experience a full dose of DMT, just get your smoking method in order first so that it won't be too uncomfortable to blast off. Trust me, you don't want to cough your lungs out with that singed, acrid feeling as you gear up to break through. Then do a few test runs first building up the dose from moderate / half dosage to full on.
 
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