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Black Panther, your an idiot. Go do your homework. Your basically trying to promote mdma for sale in cracker jack boxes because it so damn good for you. mdma WILL cause depression if you do it for a prolonged period of time. mdma IS NOT a "safe" drug, people DO die from mdma. All your points are weak and make no sense because they are wrong....
 
Originally posted by Ayrios:
Bwahahahahaha... You need some experience so you can rethink things. MDMA is an amphetamine. Mind-manifesting, oh my...
MDMA is Methylendioxymethamphetamine
amphetamine is amphetamine
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and yes mdma is mind-manifesting, maybe your pills was only amphetamine thus...
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I wanted to know did you have also noticed that hard-drugs are coming, most people disagreed. It's all I wanted to know, maybe it's only my imaginations, nevermind, but don't attack me, when you don't know what you are saying friend.
EOT
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Originally posted by Partykid12:
Black Panther, your an idiot. Go do your homework. Your basically trying to promote mdma for sale in cracker jack boxes because it so damn good for you. mdma WILL cause depression if you do it for a prolonged period of time. mdma IS NOT a "safe" drug, people DO die from mdma. All your points are weak and make no sense because they are wrong....
Again, you don't know nothing about me. Don't say that I'm idiot, I didn't used vulgar word speaking to you, have some respect to people which you speak.
Maybe my points are weak and wrong, but you didn't gave better folk and yes it can cause depression so will amphetamine and cocaine when abused.
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Originally posted by Black Panther:

MDMA is Methylendioxymethamphetamine
amphetamine is amphetamine
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and yes mdma is mind-manifesting, maybe your pills was only amphetamine thus...

I can't think much more than "moron" after reading this. You said AMPHETAMINES which include amphetamine, methamphetamine, MDMA, and many many more stimulants. You're out of your element. You called opiates mind-manifesting. I wasn't referring to MDMA.
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yes black panther you are correct... go do all the pills you can find while we kill ourselves with a line of coke. while we sit here and shoot up vicodin you will be loosing all your seratonin :)
 
Originally posted by Ayrios:
I can't think much more than "moron" after reading this. You said AMPHETAMINES which include amphetamine, methamphetamine, MDMA, and many many more stimulants. You're out of your element. You called opiates mind-manifesting. I wasn't referring to MDMA.
And I can't think much more than "moron" after you didn't saw a smiley ":]"
It's another bad-side of coke, that you have a problem with eyes? or you just don't have a sense of humour...?
Yes I called opiates mind-manifesting in some sense, from what I have heard from friends and read trip-reports, I deliberatelly didn't called them psychedelic, only "mind-manifesting", but you didn't cath my view.
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Did I say you called them psychedelic? Did I say I did coke? Did I say I didn't see your smiley? Drawing such stupid conclusions.
I didn't laugh at opiates being psychedelic, I laughed at you calling them mind-manifesting. I doubt you even know what that means, being raised in the projects.
I don't do coke.
I saw your smiley. It wasn't funny. You were still wrong.
 
Originally posted by negrogesic:

What are you talking about?

That the "Summer of Love" had just as much speed in it as it did acid. The acid was all you saw though, just like whenever you hear something on the news obout raves, ecstasy is the first drug mentioned. Eventually the scene was degraded enough that you get people like charles manson coming out of it.
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Yes, but earlier there was a line between users of it and psychedelics user. Few years ago in clubs there was only extasy, lsd, sometimes amphetamines. What's going now? Cocaine kicks out extasy from raves... Childs takes painkillers from their mammas...
You are totally fucking wrong if you're speaking of raves in the United States.
Ravers have always done whatever drugs they could get their hands on.
The only time things were slightly different is when raves broke the mainstream around 98-99. All the little faggot Oakenfold/Sasha teenybopper ravers stayed away from other drugs. Because they believed ecstasy was somehow different from other drugs. And these were people that would have never gotten into drugs had they not known what raves were. They're little preppy suburban white kids.
Because there has always been a connection between drugs and raves, there have always been people seeking whatever they could get their hands on. The reason other types of drugs were not more commonly available was because of the type of scenes they went around in. In the early 90's, things like cocaine and heroin were inner-city drugs with distribution controlled by black gangs for the most part. Methamphetamine had it's own scene.
I don't even know why I should explain this much, and I shouldn't have to explain it any further. If you don't believe me, go start digging up articles about raves from the early 90's. People never just used ecstasy and LSD at raves. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Go listen to your new Moonshine Over America CD.
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Black panther : i think u are just trying to justify your use of ecstacy to make yourself feel better about your drug use. Dont get me wrong i enjoy taking ecstacy, but i respect that it probably does no good for my mind and body. As for coke, i prefer e but i think that coke probably messes with your mind less as long as you keep your drug use under control.
 
Originally posted by fairnymph:
MDMA is much much more neurotoxic than cocaine, which is barely neurotoxic (it does, however, make seizures and heart attacks much more likely for its users).
Heroin (as well as other opiates) is not toxic -- it can cause overdoses, but it is not inherently unhealthy the way that MDMA is.
Meth too is less neurotoxic than MDMA, overall.
Seems like MDMA's the most unsafe drug, if you ask me....
i doubt a little, coz i think its because some people have much wors side effects on mdma and other from amph/meth. I personally like mdma very much and have little side effects on my brain. tho speed(amph) has for me wayyy nastier effects on my brain!(but i like the high) also mushrooms i can't handle...
What i mean to say is, some drugs are much wors for somebody than the same is for the other.
everyones body and brain are different!
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Ayrios you are misinformed buddy! My father and brother are Toxicologists and they agree the LSD and PCP are by far the most damaging drugs on the human body! I can imagine i have just started a war! (woops) mIkE
 
LSD is NOT damaging. PCP is, I didn't mention it. I was speaking of the drugs mentioned in the topic.
 
Rollmuncher, your father is trying to scare you away from using drugs. Period.
LSD has NEVER EVER been shown to do any damage to the human brain or body. EXCEPT for a virtually unnoticeable amount of damage to the chromosomes which is still FAR LESS than the chromosome damage caused by caffiene which is still insignificant.
LSD is also not going to automatically give users psychological problems, even heavy users. It completely depends on the person, and it's very rare that a psychological problem would occur.
And while PCP is certainly not good for you and has some damaging effects, there are FAR FAR FAR more damaging recreational drugs out there, including alcohol.
And from experience, the most damaging drug I have ever seen is MDMA. While your chances of overdosing or dying on MDMA are next to nothing, I have never seen a drug that so dramatically changes peoples personalities and seems to drain their maturity, memory and more or less makes them complete dumbasses. I've not known one heavy user who didn't end up acting like a complete ditz until they had stopped using for AT LEAST a year or two, if ever.
I have been through and watched hundreds of others go through addictions and periods of heavy use with every other drug you can think of.
The only thing that compares to the damage of MDMA is the effects of using methamphetamine to excess, staying awake for days at a time and doing this over and over for a significant frame of time.
Otherwise there is no hallucinogen or dissociative that compares, cocaine does not compare, heroin does not compare, marijuana doesn't compare, etc., to what MDMA does.
 
PCP and LSD are the most toxic substances? I love these experts......
Silverfucked: I have heard many people talk about "acid laced with speed", especially people of the 1960's and 70's. LSD has a speedy element to it, but contains no speed or amphetamine, and never did....
 
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