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Horsey>
Would i have seen u at the open day?
I was gonna do it next year as well, but i decided to take a year off, i need money!
While on the subject of cracks, whos got the crack for Vaz, i couldnt be arsed searching for it everywhere cus id rather write posts about it on Bluelight.
And also, whos usin reaktor and gettin shithouse latency on it, like a 1/4 of a second after u press the keys down or trigger it from ya sequencer. I know its cus my computers shit but does Vaz modular have that same kind of latency?
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umm....vaz...well i got a p3 500 64 meg ram, and i think i tried using fruity loops, orion and vaz with midi sync to my 505, fruity loops ran AHEAD of my 505, from which i assume it has some sort of 'preset' latency compensation, either way it was still off time, and both vaz and orion ran about a fraction of a beat behind, too much to be useful as a live tool.....i mite need more ram...
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Yeah, fuxn p.c's
nomatter how much u upgrade em they never do the job like they should.
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And theyre so big and hard to lug around
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I wanna get one of those really flat screens, anyone know how much they are at the moment? (probly better to spend my $$$ on a better mixer anyway)
Oh and who else is usin Gigasampler. If anyone is, do u know if or how you can change the cuttof filter to be transmitted by cc-74 instead of the modulation wheel? It shits me cus for some reason the rm1x hasnt been able to record changes done with the modulation wheel.
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I Want my slow evolving filter sweeps !!!
Thats enough ranting from me for this mornin, who's next?
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umm flat screens...dunno but at a swap meet i saw a sort of portable pc with a flat screen...whole thing around 2 grands....umm...
u can get rack mount computer cases for around 600upwards....fucking expensive but that'll rock!
all u need is a mouse with midi controller knobs....
umm giga sampler...eek....dunno..
u can't record modlation wheel changes? eek..thats wierd...whats so different about a mod wheel message than a pitch bend message? hmmm..
oh well... by the way...i think the web site for the melboiurne novation importers (and those rack cases for pc's ) is this: http://www.innovativemusic.com.au/
Hahaha allans rip off fuckers... this joint are floggin off super nova basics for 4 grand...allans wanted 5 grand for the basic model. Fuck off. hehe. Hmm...should i get a nova and an rm1x now..that'll cost 4 grand...or shuld i get the super nova, try and do my best to sequence it off 7 parts on the 505, and wait god knows how long till i get the rm1x? i dunno..im kinda stuck hehe
 
Hey all.
What genre's do y'all make?
I 'try' to make trance (experimenting with all different styles of trance but dunno if i'm getting there or not.....)
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heya
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i wouldn't know if it'd be true to say i had a certain style...i like a bit of everything, so i guess i write a bit of everything, sorta reflects the mood im in while im writing. I would say dark raw techno, acid, trance...house..dunno
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anyone whose heard me what do u think? critiscms? ....>
 
Anyone in this thread working on a MAC?? Not wanting to start a war or anything but I thought mac's where ment to have the edge when it came to music/video production??
Also Any one using any tracker programes??
Also, I'd to hear some reports from anyone who owns a roland JP8000 synth or the roland groovebox 303 or 505 cause I'm thinking of get one and I just can't decide!
 
Well i make hard techno, inteligent techno, minimal techno, techno with breaks, techno with old samples ripped off from tracker days, techno that sends u into a dreamy hypnotic state, techno which gets u horny, and also experimental techno.
And a bit of chill musik as well, funky stuff, breaky stuff, ambient stuff.
I just like to mess around.
Yeah i heard macs are more reliable but i prefer my ibm cus its more versitile.
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Dont get the MC-303 'cos there's so much better out there... I've got one, and while I love it, I wish I'd got something more, either the 505 or an rm1x ... they're the two that I woulda chosen between if I coulda gone back with what i know now
...serotone can tell us more about the mc-505
Havn't used Macs but have heard the same thing... If i could afford it I'd give it a try, but I'd rather spend my cash on some real hardware, a synth or two
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I'm making trance, dreamy, smooth, melodic trance... also some techno with a smooth groovy edge
...and then plenty of mucking around in the techno or trance genres...
not really doing much at the moment tho 'cos of uni and exams, but once exams are over...!
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Hey Tarsarlan!
Pitty about the mc-303... tones are a bit dodge... : \
ah well, we've all gotta start somewhere, and not always on perfect equipment...
If i were you, forget about the 505, and go for a 307... they aren't a HELL of a lot more expensive, and the tones have twice the quality of the 505, and 4 times that of the 303... so there you go
oh yea... plus the menu system is MUCH better than the 505 (nearly non existant).
I still wouldn't use it to sequence primarily!
For sequencing use an RM1X, it is the most powerful desk sequencer around, I will be moving to that once I get off Cakewalk (more like when I can afford it)... but for now, Cakewalk is excellent! Everything is so logical in Cakewalk for sequencing
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Umm...hehe okay well the 307 is actually a cut down 505, with more sounds, not better ones.....while it might haev a better menu system, the user interface is pretty limited...fuck it. I say go for the rm1x. I would've bought it instead of a 505, but when i got my 505, the rm1x wasn't released yet.
Umm..the 505..has shit presets ALTHOUGH u can make ur own patches to an extent..they are sampled waverforms rather than DCO's..which is a bit dodge...i call it a ROMpler hehe...the filters are a bit gay...my cutoff knob is literally FUCKED...i bought one of a bad batch of 505's that had dust covers on the sliders missing, knobs were dodgy..etc etc
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Umm....so yeah...go for the RM1X...i'm buying one next...if u got the spare cash..get a novation nova as well
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or even a supernova...together those two blue boxes woudl make a formidable force...
Umm yeah back to the 505..hehe, i like the part mixer, it lets u adjust part volume, efx sends, umm keyshift but its too sensitive to be of any use, panning and megamix....i love the megamix function...
like..the 505 is pattern based, meaning u write a looping pattern, say anything from 1 bar (which isn't very useful as the 505 'locks up' one bar before the end of the pattern, meaning u can't change patterns for the last bar...a one bar pattern locks u out for good) to 32 bars.... with megamix u can select any part from any pattern in the machine, and at the end of the current pattern it'll 'swap' the current part with the new part, great for mixing up your shit live..... the only thing i don't like about the way patterns are structured is that u can't easily copy from one part to another, say part 1 to part 2....
i was on a mc505 mail list ages back, someone said how to do it, can't remmeber though
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oh well...heheh those who saw me at cage on the 3rd would have seen me rampaging around with a tb303...that was my friend gus's....fuck is fun driving around the streets, with a tb303 plugged into ur stereo system pumpin out whacky 'bow bow weeieieidididi bowbow' acid lines......
Oh and on MACS, i know sweet fuck all about them ,but my friend shane (alpharisc from wetmusik) writes solely on pc, and hates MACS. Reckons they are shit. So..he is a smart bloke..he must have a reason for hating them, thats why im typing this message on a p3-500
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funkyfella: oh no don't get the jp8000/ or the jp8080....they are SICK..but they lack polyphony to be of any use unless u have a bit of equipement to back it up with...
go the supernova/novation nova.
the nova is cheaper than the jp8000..while it doesn't have a keyboard...it has 6 outputs, 6 parts, umm i think 8 seperate efx per part, u can do all kinds of wacky shit on it, and it has a vocoder just the same as the jp8080 does.
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and its BLUE
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I actually decided to take some time away from Psy-trance and decided to have a go on Fruity Loops to make some menacing hard-house!
ALAS! If only I had a Midi-Controller, which by the way is next on the list for me.
Back to the story. In a matter of 20 minutes I had a set of 12 banging instruments, one base pattern, and a kick-arse sound! Amped up all the kicks and added some (bless them) VST effects, and came up with an insanity! I saved it up, Serotone, if you have FruityLoops I'll send you some of my stuff.
Anyway, with a Midi-Controller I could tweak the VST effects, and other base control without having to use a mouse!
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307 has 16MB PCM waveforms as opposed to 505's 8MB waveforms am i not correct?
and the sounds are less grainy, and cover more frequencies?
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Yes while that mite be true....
at the end of the day, it sounds like a 505, well at least the presets i heard did, and the first 8mb of samples are exactly the same as the 505.
All i'm saying is, fuck the 307. U'll get more use out of the rm1x, it has a way better sequencer than anything roland has ever came up with, hsa better sounds, has a floppy drive to save work, has a display twice as big as the 307, has a better user interface, u can be more creative while playing live coz u can 'play sections' as if they were samples, and it's got 16 parts as a pose to 7 + rhythm.
And technically, the only thing the 307 has going for it is the extra sounds, bigger display, and that pitch bend thing, which is another gimmick, (first the dbeam, then that! whats next?)
All i want to know is when are roland etc going to get Real Creative and put somnething USEFUL on a groovebox, llike a Sampler? That'll be cool! If u could load samples into the 505. I'd be happy.
 
I already expressed my 'love' of the RM1X for sequencing. I've been talking about synth quality in my posts, not directly sequencing, and 307 tones (8mb / 16mb / whatever ......) kick the shit out off rm1x 4 meg samples. All I am sayin is, if you do not have a decent synth, I recommend the 307, hook up with cakewalk, and atleast then you will have decent sounding tones + wicked sequencing. But if you already have a good synth, I would definately recommend going for the rm1x...
There's my two bits
... just 'recommendations' thats all.
Oh yea, and while most of the tones on the RM1X are ok ... ie pads, etc...., the rhythm kit PACKS POO... RM1x is useless to get any decent sort of BD kick out off... standard Bass tones of the rm1x are pretty fat though... RM1X has a very limited patch system also, ie, you can only save patches with songs, which can be a pain in the ass if you happen to want to use the same patch for another song, and the only way would be to open up the song with the patch you would like to use, delete all the events of the file, and save as a new file, and then work from that new one... gets annoying eventually!
And, FYI 307 is not a cut down 505... i would not call cutting down adding advanced features for patches such as cross frequency modulation... not very common feature in synths.
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Too late for roland to do that cus Yamaha's already makin a sequencer with sampling abilities similar to the rm1x.
Should be out mid next year or sumthin like that.
 
Y0 Mach,
the rm1x does have shit tones but with a little creative tweaking and efx work u can work em up a little bit.
I have devised the ultimate kik drum that has managed to crack one of my bedroom windows and thumps so hard that my ears might bleed soon.
All u have to do is muck around with the parametres on the individual efx settings to get the right effect.
But if ure usin just the rm1x, dont expect to have a very clean mix cus theres not much u can do in the eq department and in the end if u pack everythin on too much without thinking, it will sound all muddy.
 
MachT : The 505 has cross modulation as well
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At the end of the day...flame me if u disagree, i believe your going to need more than 'a single box' to make good music....unless that single box costs the equivalent of many ...... i don't know about the yamaha, but i can tell u the 505, 303 and most likely the 307 might look good in the shop, and might sound good, but boy do they have their limitations... What shits me about the 505 is that when u put a fair bit of content into a pattern it starts 'lagging'....a sign of a cpu that is underrated for the specs of the machine...
mypoint is that while these boxes might have a shit load of different functions at features, u have to question their ability to do any of them good.
Hey i got a question for those with rm1x's that have used them as master midi time code sources. I plan to chain my studio up as following when i get all the gear i want, rm1x master time clock, and sequencing the n0va and a3000, and feeding timeclock into the computer and 505. Now, everytime u 'tap' a section button to trigger a new 'section', does it transmit a midi time code signal to restart the pattern? or does it just syncronise to the new section?
FUCK i'm DROOLING FOR A NOVA
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OR super nova
for that matter...
oh komplex..url for that new yamaha box please..very interested :P
 
Nah I don't flame
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Seratone, I'm with you for the 'more than one' machine needed for good production 100%!
And yes, I fully agree with you about the lag effect of 505... roland boast of great polyphony, but they seem to max out before max load is even chucked at the damn synth!
Happy production!
BTW do any of you have some stuff up for a listen? I'd like to hear what y'all make!
... if thats alright with y'all of course!
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