Daily or Every Other Day LSD Use (low dose)

[mission780]

Can someone actually feel anything from a super low dose like 15-30ug? What does it even feel like? I'm thinking most of the perceived effects at such a low dose would be the results of a placebo effect, no?

Low doses like 15-30ug are definitely not a placebo for me. I even have slightly diluted pupils with them

The feelings are as I listed in my previous thread: -Enhancement of cognition and perception, -Faster thinking, more associations, more creativity, out of the box thinking -Improved mood and increased energy. Of course, with such low doses the effects are much less pronounced than if you'd take, let's say 50uq or a bit more, but you can definitely feel them - no doubt about it!

BTW I think there is a maximum limit when LSD stops working as a cognitive enhancer in a traditional sense and starts showing different effects (commonly known as psychedelic effects); for me the classical cognitive enhancement works up to about 100-150uq, although beyond 50-60uq it starts to be accompanied by other effects that may turn out to be too distracting for everyday life. Hence I think the optimum dose of LSD as a nootropic would be somewhere between 15-30uq for regular use (1-2 times a week) or 30-50uq for special occasions and occassional use.

 

[mission780]

Dude if you take low doses like that (50-80ug) daily or bi-daily then you're going to end up not feeling anything from the drug after maybe your second dose in a week. Your tolerance will be built and you're going to have to let it come back down before feeling anything again. But hey it's your life and you can do what you want. I don't subscribe to the "disrespecting the chemical" mentality either, at least not in your case. For me disrespecting a psychedelic is when you are going to take a dose (a real dose that will actually make you trip...) and you aren't prepared for it or doing it for the right reasons (for example: doing it just to get F'd up).

We are talking here about lower doses - 15-30uq and doing them twice a week. From my experience I know they work very well and tolerance isn't a problem.

 

[mission780]

http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/can-a-low-dose-go-a-long-way

"As someone said, the rocks don’t glow, even a little bit. But what many people are reporting is, at the end of the day, they say, ‘That was a really good day.’ You know, that kind of day when things kind of work. You’re doing a task you normally couldn’t stand for two hours, but you do it for three or four. You eat properly. Maybe you do one more set of reps. Just a good day. That seems to be what we’re discovering."

I completely agree with this. I do not recommend doing it continuously, but micro-dosing (20 µg) every third day over a period of 2 to 4 weeks can definitely help a lot. It is a completely different experience, almost another drug. I would bet money that a double-blind study between LSD-micro-dosing and prozac would give better results for the micro-dosing.

Completely agree!

Only I don't understand why only over a period of 2-4 weeks?

 

[ParappaTheRapper]

How would u test that many variables.
between experience of use. 2x2.
I'm unsure

 

[ZFC]

Completely agree!

Only I don't understand why only over a period of 2-4 weeks?

Well, eventually, tolerance does build up. And I like to think of this as a soft intervention over a limited timeframe. If you need to take any sort of anti-depressant "forever", then there is probably something else you need to fix in your life before resorting to drugs.

 

[mission780]

Well, eventually, tolerance does build up. And I like to think of this as a soft intervention over a limited timeframe. If you need to take any sort of anti-depressant "forever", then there is probably something else you need to fix in your life before resorting to drugs.

I have been doing the low doses for 3 months now and I haven't noticed any tolerance build up yet. It looks to me like the full build up is done in the time between the doses (3 day for build up from each low dose (15-30uq) of LSD)).

I don't take LSD for anti-depressant properties. I take it mainly for the cognitive/perceptual enhancement. However you might still have a point with the "forever" thing.

 

[bitchamonth]

Dropping LSD every second or third day will empty my wallet very quickly, especially if doing it for months after months.
Anyhow, I would consider this an experiment worth trying out. I`m really curious in how reading books and writing will be, will I remember/learn/recall information/content easier or not.
Also, since there is no way I can know the exact dose I am taking, cutting a 100uG blotter into 3 pieces would be reasonable, or maybe 4 pieces..

 

[mission780]

Dropping LSD every second or third day will empty my wallet very quickly, especially if doing it for months after months.
Anyhow, I would consider this an experiment worth trying out. I`m really curious in how reading books and writing will be, will I remember/learn/recall information/content easier or not.
Also, since there is no way I can know the exact dose I am taking, cutting a 100uG blotter into 3 pieces would be reasonable, or maybe 4 pieces..

If it is indeed 100uq then cutting into 4 or even 5 pieces should be OK.

If you decide to try it, please report your observations to us.
You will find out how the low dose of LSD works for you just after a few trials as I don't think there is any cumulative effect with LSD (like with some other nootropics). So each time is like a new one. You will only need to learn how to use the effects in the most beneficial way for you.
Good luck!

 

[bitchamonth]

If it is indeed 100uq then cutting into 4 or even 5 pieces should be OK.

If you decide to try it, please report your observations to us.
You will find out how the low dose of LSD works for you just after a few trials as I don't think there is any cumulative effect with LSD (like with some other nootropics). So each time is like a new one. You will only need to learn how to use the effects in the most beneficial way for you.
Good luck!

I will gladly do that , plan on doing it next week at some point and will report back after 1 week has passed. I intend on taking 3-4 blotters, supposedly with 25-33uG on them, obviously I can`t really measure that very accurately, but I`ll just have to assume that based on the sellers info.
Oh, and thanks for the help ;-)

 

[Deleted member 290563]

mxe is the drug u are looking for.....lsd, psilo etc. just arent suited to daily use like that

 

[Folley]

This seems like an excellent way to have lackluster experiences for the rest of your life... as far as physical damage goes however, I don't think there would be much of anything noticeable (although, just because you can't see it doesn't mean it isn't there).


I'd agree that LSD probably isn't the drug you are looking for, however. Lighter phens like 2C-B/C/D or something along that line would seem to be much better for low dosing and drugs like MXE and even weed would probably treat you much better in this regard.

 

[bitchamonth]

This seems like an excellent way to have lackluster experiences for the rest of your life... as far as physical damage goes however, I don't think there would be much of anything noticeable (although, just because you can't see it doesn't mean it isn't there).


I'd agree that LSD probably isn't the drug you are looking for, however. Lighter phens like 2C-B/C/D or something along that line would seem to be much better for low dosing and drugs like MXE and even weed would probably treat you much better in this regard.

It may be that the LSD isn`t quite suited for this kind of use, I won`t deny that, but I don`t see any reason for something like this not being worth trying out.
What damage?, when did LSD become psychically damaging? I must have missed something.

 

[Folley]

^ I said there would likely be no damage, however over activation of 5-HT receptors is going to cause downregulation over time which is certainly NOT a good thing.


As you also mentioned yourself, HPPD is going to be a (small, but worth mentioning) risk as well.





You're free to try it, if you want. Personally I would not, though. I'm one who quite enjoys lower doses of LSD too.. Perhaps once a week or bi-weekly, but over that is kind of pushing it IMO

 

[bitchamonth]

^ I said there would likely be no damage, however over activation of 5-HT receptors is going to cause downregulation over time which is certainly NOT a good thing.


As you also mentioned yourself, HPPD is going to be a (small, but worth mentioning) risk as well.





You're free to try it, if you want. Personally I would not, though. I'm one who quite enjoys lower doses of LSD too.. Perhaps once a week or bi-weekly, but over that is kind of pushing it IMO

I see.
Isn`t downregulation of 5-HT Receptors linked with depression or something?
How serious of a problem can actually HPPD really become?
I think I`m addicted to LSD.

I`ll think a little more about it till next week and then I`ll make a decision. Thanks for the help of course

 

[Tryptamino]

Well I think that this thread will show you that daily LSD use will be pretty much impossible.

 

[construct]

This is the only randomized, blinded trial I have seen regarding LSD microdosing. It seems that the author experienced the opposite of his desired expectations: his day-to-day creativity and mood/productivity worsened somewhat over the 5-month test period.

 

[Ismene]

Also, the one who discovered LSD even recommends not using it within the same 365 days. The dude is a freaking genius so I'd take his word for it.

Are you sure about that cakes? I've read Hoffman saying he used to take LSD every day as a low dose nootropic and mood enhancer. I've never heard him say trip once a year.

 

[mission780]

^ I said there would likely be no damage, however over activation of 5-HT receptors is going to cause downregulation over time which is certainly NOT a good thing.

You're free to try it, if you want. Personally I would not, though. I'm one who quite enjoys lower doses of LSD too.. Perhaps once a week or bi-weekly, but over that is kind of pushing it IMO

My impression is that the use of low low dose (15-30uq) no more often than twice a week does not create down-regulation. I conclude this from the fact that each time I take the next low dose the effects are of more or less the same intensity.

 

[Ismene]

I don't think 50 mics is that low a dose.

Hoffman said he used 10mics as a daily smart drug sometimes.

 

[mission780]

I don't think 50 mics is that low a dose.

Hoffman said he used 10mics as a daily smart drug sometimes.

I agree 50uq is not a low dose for even 'twice a week' use as a nootropic. I use 15uq most often which might in reality be 10uq (as most blotters are overstated in the amount of acid they contain). Anyway, at this dose I cannot see any down-regulation if I judge by the effects each dose has on me. Maybe there is a slight one building up over time, but I don't notice it because it progresses too slowly in time. I am not sure but there may be such a possibility.

As for 10uq daily use, are you sure Hoffman was saying about DAILY use? I don't get it how one could benefit from 10uq daily - the tolerance would make the effects unnoticeable on the second or third day.