Daily Mail - Why we must take the public's lead... and jail ALL drug dealers

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By Melanie Phillips
Last updated at 4:22 AM on 4th April 2011

With Reader comments

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1373071/Why-publics-lead--jail-ALL-drug-dealers.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

A major newspaper poll published at the weekend revealed something that should surprise no one — that an overwhelming majority of people believe Britain has gone soft on law and order.

They are particularly upset that imprisonment is now so regularly replaced by community punishments. They want longer and tougher prison sentences instead.

As if on cue, along comes the Sentencing Council to contradict the public.

The Council is an independent body, made up of judges and others associated with criminal justice, which aims to produce consistency in courts’ sentencing decisions.

Last week, it produced a consultation paper on sentencing guidelines for drug crimes. This proposed that some criminals convicted of supplying the most dangerous illegal drugs, such as heroin or cocaine, should escape jail and be given community service orders instead.
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The reason is that so many of the great and the good have been influenced by the relentless influence of drug legalisation propaganda. This has effectively brainwashed them into believing that the main problem is not the drugs themselves, but the law that is designed to control them.
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The muddled defeatism of the governing class over prison mirrors its muddled defeatism over drugs. It believes that prison makes crime more likely and the law on drugs makes drug crime worse.

But the truth is that the impact of imprisonment has been eroded through ever-shorter jail terms.

And it’s not the law that makes drug use more of a problem, but rather that the law is applied inconsistently and that its signals are accordingly fatally compromised.

Whether over drugs or crime in general, the actual problem is a loss of moral compass among those responsible for keeping us all safe. And that is why the Sentencing Council’s proposals are likely to induce even more despair among a general public that believes that, on law and order, its leaders have simply lost the plot.
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Who did they poll 10 senior citizens?

I love the Daily Mail.

What they are doing is saying that instead of turning to avoid hitting the brick wall, we should just maintain course and increase speed.
 
anyone selling or dealing in drugs should get Life in prison for all the harm they have done to kids,adults. Customs should in each country get rid of drug dealers and eradicate all poppy fields and all sources of drugs.If they cannot do it,then the Custom Officials should resign. If one container of drugs is stopped,how many have got through? Go to the Sources of the drugs and eradicate it by any means.One life lost because of drugs, is one life too many. If drugs get through then the Onus lays at the doors of the customs only and they should be held accountable by law. If customs cant stop the drugs getting in,why Oh why are they there? They the Customs make life a misery for tourists at Dover and Folkstone,when in fact they should be concerntrating on Drug Smugglers.
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fucking hell the ignorance is astounding.

EDIT: That's a reader comment by the way
 
^They're not stupid, they might be misguided, but simply declaring your opposition stupid and refusing to engage with them is not constructive.

Notice that they don't actually name the survey, show the results or link to it. I think it might have been one of those polls on the right of the screen of their own website (which have such wonderfully leading questions as "Is it fair that only people in England are being charged for prescriptions?" and "Will you be bothering to vote in the AV referendum?").
 
Budisti said:
has gone soft? didnt the UK increase the penalty for weed posession?
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yeah thats right it was back up to class b. probably to get these sort of newspapers on side. mind you in my experience cannabis is still treated like a class c by lots of cops. confiscated and warnings as opposed to instant arrest if caught with amphetamines for instance.
 
Somebody.. somewhere.. PLEASE hack thedaily fail site and put up a few pro-legalisation articles, a few "news papers spread misinformation and bullshit propoganda" articles and finally a "Why the Dail Mail should be destroyed" article..
 
rickolasnice said:
Somebody.. somewhere.. PLEASE hack thedaily fail site and put up a few pro-legalisation articles, a few "news papers spread misinformation and bullshit propoganda" articles and finally a "Why the Dail Mail should be destroyed" article..
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The next best thing is to infiltrate the news publications with journos who are soooo BAD, so inept and incompetent, that they effectively advertise and promote the drugs whenever they try to condemn them................Oh wait!
 
Yerg said:
^They're not stupid, they might be misguided, but simply declaring your opposition stupid and refusing to engage with them is not constructive.

Notice that they don't actually name the survey, show the results or link to it. I think it might have been one of those polls on the right of the screen of their own website (which have such wonderfully leading questions as "Is it fair that only people in England are being charged for prescriptions?" and "Will you be bothering to vote in the AV referendum?").
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on average people who read the daily mail want to be fed opinions based on angry reactionsim, you're not going to change that form of idiocy so why pay it attention and then feed it like its got more backing than it really has. most people have some degree of sense to them, daily mail readers want trigger words to be angry about fashioned in something they can kid themselves is well written with lots of big adjectives.

to allow yourself to be very misguided and pay for the pleasure most certainly is a form of stupidity. intelligence comes in many varieties.

to react angrily to other people reacting angrily is silly. pay them no heed and focus on the opinions that are open to debate

at least when people read the sun they cant possibly decieve themselves that its clever and well written (full of shit as it is)
 
well then those people that took those polls should move to the USA. We lock up more people then the entire UK population times 10..
 
^You lock up 600 million people? That's pretty fucking impressive for a country with less than half that many citizens.
 
The daily mail sounds like some of the stupid right wing newspapers we get here in Canada from what ive read about them. Id like to know who they actually surveyed because i really can't see many people in england under 35 wanting anything like this.
 
rickolasnice said:
Somebody.. somewhere.. PLEASE hack thedaily fail site and put up a few pro-legalisation articles, a few "news papers spread misinformation and bullshit propoganda" articles and finally a "Why the Dail Mail should be destroyed" article..
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some groups of internet users have gone toward the direction of "internet activism"... there is a lot of (different kinds of) power that we have, as a collection of people...

such activism would have to be carefully chosen so as not to backfire, and if done from BL, legal.
 
Well, just to give you guys perspective on this, the Daily Fail (and The Sun) are News Corp. Properties, A la Faux News. Make of it what you will.
 
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