Dad killed drug pusher to save addict daughter (Updated 4/12/07)

[E-llusion]

You wouldn't belive how many people in Canada want this guy to get off *FREE* without any punishment. As somehow a life of a drug dealer is disposable. He fired 10 times, shot the guy 5 times, don't tell me he had no itent to kill.

 

[funknsoul1]

first degree murder, definitely. it was pre-meditated, obviously. If the government allows a 'drug-dealer' to be treated like a second class citizen and this guy gets off, i will be so angry. this guy's defense attorney needs to stop questioning the victim's character all together -- because that has NOTHING to do with it. Unless it's self-defense, the reason for murder means jack shit!

 

[realistic1]

hang on here....how many of you have read about this trial since it began?

Have any of you read the opening of this trial where the defense lawyer interviewed the police officer that was investigating this "hayward" fellow?

obviuosly the police were well aware of him and his drug deal doings that they were drawing a search warrant of his residence because he was suspected of "armed robbery" and was suppose to of had weapons in his possesion when the defendant put him out of his misery. So why not a warrant for the drugs? he had been busted numerous times in the past? (doesnt make sense)


maybe if this guys azz was in jail where it BELONGED ....none of this would be happening right now...as far as i am concerend.....good ridence!

IMHO

GO KIM GO

 

[9mmCensor]

IMHO

GO KIM GO

I am glad to see you support murder.

 

[ktx49]

why didnt he just call the cops if he was so worried about his daughter?

stupid ass hole and whoever said that a murder committed over or because of drugs doesnt make it manslaughter is correct; its still 1st degree if they can prove intent.

 

[realistic1]

I am glad to see you support murder.

hold on here ... i never said i support it. lets just say ...what if this guy fed this girl so much morphine and she over dosed? whos's fault would it have been?
since he was the one who got her hooked on it..would there be any charges or would it have been classified as accidental overdose? why wasnt the justice system doing there part when this cat was convicted of trafficing drugs?

like i said. .... if his azz was in jail where it belonged....this wouldnt be happening.

GO KIM GO

 

[realistic1]

why didnt he just call the cops if he was so worried about his daughter?

stupid ass hole and whoever said that a murder committed over or because of drugs doesnt make it manslaughter is correct; its still 1st degree if they can prove intent.

there again ....how many of you have read about this trial from the begining?
try google maybe you'll find the answer to your comment.

 

[9mmCensor]

hold on here ... i never said i support it. lets just say ...what if this guy fed this girl so much morphine and she over dosed? who's fault would it have been?
since he was the one who got her hooked on it..would there be any charges or would it have been classified as accidental overdose? why wasn't the justice system doing there part when this cat was convicted of trafficking drugs?

like i said. .... if his azz was in jail where it belonged....this wouldn't be happening.

GO KIM GO

You support the father, who murdered a man. I don't support anyone that commits murder, because I don't support murder.

The girl made the choice to go to her boyfriend's and use drugs. It would be her fault if she ODed. Which she did not. Because its not in the best interest of her boyfriend to have her OD and die. Because then he loses a piece of ass and a client.

She made a choice to do drugs. Her father made the choice to kill a man.

I don't know if the boyfriend should be in jail or not, but he didn't murder someone and is not on trail. Remember that there should not be a second class citizen in this country, it should not be acceptable to murder anyone, no matter how bad you think they are.

"would there be any charges or would it have been classified as accidental overdose?" accidental is a keyword there.

You seem to have a bias of some sort. Are you related to the family at all?

And you really seem to have a prejudice against drugs. Seeing as the focus of this site is drugs, well... Read around, you may see (if you open your eyes and your mind) that maybe drugs can be ok, or even great if you are careful (no one is going to argue that there is an inherit danger with drugs, but that can be guarded against, and lets face it if everyone that used drugs immediately died due to the huge risk, there wouldn't be so many people doing them).

You talk about how horrible it is that she was doing drugs and being given them, but the reality is: she choose to do them, and they had not killed her yet, and aren't all that bad.

 

[realistic1]

You seem to have a bias of some sort. Are you related to the family at all?

No i'm not.


as it was said in the paper

In the week leading up to the shooting, after the family had Jadah committed, Walker said an angry Hayward called the family, threatened their lives and said they would never see Jadah again

and how would you have taken this statement, if this was u in this situation? I find it very concerning and would feel threatened by such a remark.

lets say ...he did infact make such a threat and was all hopped up on w/e and did follow through? or lets say if your child(if u have any) was in a vehicle with intoxicated people or high on drugs and god forbid something devistating happened to them? would u be here saying bad bad drunk/druggie yer a murderer?
i assume your a user? no need for you to reply. stress with a combination of adrenaline is a powerful and clouds peoples better judgement ....as do drugs and alcohol.

but thanks for the invite to look around on this site.i just may do so if i need to stimulate my senses here! puff puff pass

 

[9mmCensor]

No i'm not.


as it was said in the paper and how would you have taken this statement, if this was u in this situation? I find it very concerning and would feel threatened by such a remark.

lets say ...he did infact make such a threat and was all hopped up on w/e and did follow through? or lets say if your child(if u have any) was in a vehicle with intoxicated people or high on drugs and god forbid something devastating happened to them? would u be here saying bad bad drunk/druggie yer a murderer?
i assume your a user? no need for you to reply. stress with a combination of adrenaline is a powerful and clouds peoples better judgment ....as do drugs and alcohol.

but thanks for the invite to look around on this site.i just may do so if i need to stimulate my senses here! puff puff pass

http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderp...=e5dab580-315d-456a-ab2d-6d210cffce11&k=58592

The threats seem to be mutual... "if I didn't have a family and a little boy, I'd love to go kill James Hayward."

The father should have involved the police to "rescue his daughter" instead of killing a man. Then he could be there for his family instead of in jail.

*Packs another bowl and passes it.*

 

[Jamshyd]

I mean, if he really wanted to deal with the situation, all he had to do was call the cops.

BINGO!

And hey, did we outlaw arms for shit just like that?

I'd understand if this has happened in a bedouine society somewhere in the east Sahara (these things DO happen and people get accquited)... but this is hardly the eastern Sahara and nor is that idiot a bedouine.

 

[Jackal]

^

Anybody hear the verdict?

 

[9mmCensor]

^

Anybody hear the verdict?

one isnt expected for a few days.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/saskatchewan/story/2007/01/19/lawyer-mistrial.html

 

[realistic1]

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[E-llusion]

Vigilante Justice has no place in civilized society, hope the father rots in jail.

 

[ashamedofhometown]

Yorkton happens to be my hometown (unfortunetly), born and raised, and smart enough to LEAVE immediatly after high school. I have personally known Kim Walker for many years.

It saddens me think that Jadah Walker was given the opporunity to 'turn her life around' but James Hayward was not. He was obviously a very young man that was, like Jadah, on the wrong path.

But what saddens me even more is the people in the community supporting murder. I had NO idea that this is what I have come from. How embarrassing. Whats even more shocking and disturbing is the 'religious aspect' of this case. One of Kim's character references in the trial was a paster at a local church. I was SHOCKED and sick to my stomach when I read this. How could this be?? They sit in church on Sunday and say that 'James Hayward got what he deserved'. I struggle with this.. because... did God not love James Hayward?? If this is what organized religion is really about.... no thank you. But... I might have a little bit of prayer left in me... and I'll pray that James Hayward is at peace and that his family continues to honor his memory. Because he deserves it. (and no.. I'm not related to him... hadn't even heard his name before he was killed.)

If you haven't heard... the jury came back with second degree murder. I'm sad for the ordeal Kim and has family have endured and do believe that they were trying to 'save their daughter' and desperation got to them. I'm glad that Jadah is now healthy. But I'll sleep easier tonight knowing that there is a murderer behind bars.

 

[E-llusion]

^^^ Thanks for you post, what you said about the pastor if true, is truly despicable and further reinforces my beliefs against ANY organized religions, the most hypocritical organizations on this planet which cause more harm than good by preaching "God's word".

I am disappointed that he only got 2nd degree murder conviction when it was clearly a 1st degree offense and now the man will be eligible for parole in 10 years.

What a crazy sad world we live in ..............

 

[realistic1]

Vigilante Justice has no place in civilized society, hope the father rots in jail.

sad to see the judical system has failed society once again why does that not surprise me. this is not a matter of "Vigilante" here not sure how u come with with that...how many cries for help does a person have to make for help before something is done about things? how many times did the Walkers ask for help?how many of u have read about this story from the start when this unfortunate situation took place? are u all familiar with all the facts of this case? when nothing is done to help those who cry out for help and have the door slammed in there face where does that leave them? desperate and vunerable. so vigilante ... i think not.

 

[realistic1]

Yorkton happens to be my hometown (unfortunetly), born and raised, and smart enough to LEAVE immediatly after high school.

If your so ashamed to be from there? why are u here admitting it to the world then? why not just make a comment and leave it at that.what so embarrasing about it? the community has never done anything to u has it? every city has situations in them that are out of other control ...all u can do is go out and try to make it a better place for u and your family can live in.whats so hard about that?

It saddens me think that Jadah Walker was given the opporunity to 'turn her life around' but James Hayward was not. He was obviously a very young man that was, like Jadah, on the wrong path

why does does this sadden u? it took something as drastic as this to make her see the light and turn her life around ....i say good for her and commend her on her strength and courage to stand up be a accountable person in society and not continue on the path that MR Hayward was on. unlike u she did not run in hide of any shame of that has come about because of this situtaion. she stayed changed her life incredibly and is on the road to make a great life for her self and her future family and gave her support to her father who saved her froma life of hell and misery. WTG JADAH keep up the good work!

As for Mr Hayward....whos fault is it he didnt have the chance to change his life around for the better?
1...after being convicted of selling drugs ----- how many times?
2...beating a man senseless with a pipe? ---- who he could have killed
what did he need to convince him to change his life? lightning strike?

he had plent of oportunity to change if he wanted to ... so i have no pity for him for his poor family that crying that they were not given a chance to help him .... where were they when he was convicted of these charges ..? in my opinion ... to bad so sad ... time to quit complaining about how this was taken away from u .

IMHO

 

[Liric]

Psychotic overprotective dad? I would have been armed myself and put a few through the old man's ribcage. Better yet, stick with girls who come from sane parents.