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nolys

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I'm asking the fucking questions!
On mobile so gonna keep this short and sweet.

Few months ago did a fail cycle of bunk test e, gained then lost a lot of weight, end result was depression and lack of motivation that's kept me from training for the past 3 months.I went back training today and I've lost a shitlot of size and 25kg off my bench press.
I do not want to have to start from the beginning again (I've lost about 2 years worth of progress) so I'm gonna start another cycle (test e 400mg week)

Is there any problems with this? I want to just get back to or slightly past where I was.

Secondly, my gf is totally against the idea so I plan to do it behind her back at 250mg e4d (working out at 400mg week odds) for 13 weeks. 20 amps = 13 weeks. I don't want her seeing rapid growth as she will know...

Is there much of a point in doing 400mg week? Will it be worth it?
And what would comparisons between a 500mg 10 week cycle and a 400mg 13 week cycle be? Which would result in more gain or would it be roughlý the same?

Sorry for the shitty formatting and layout but blackberry yada yada yada...

Opinions please?
Thanks
 
might I ask why your lady cares about what you do with your body? she might enjoy the increased libido, mood, and overall drive. could also tell her your rapid gains are from starting training again (depends if she knows her shit or not).
 
I actuallÿ don't know, its pissing me off, I'm allowed to take drugs on occasion and whatnot and at the start of the relationship when I mentioned it she was fine with it but not now.
Apparently its fake muscle and I should do it naturally ect ect even though it will take 2 years to get back what I lost in 3 months.

I've planted the idea of “muscle memory” into her head so that when gains start coming she doesn't ask. Most people wouldn't notice its steroids I don't think but at the end of the day, she's the one going to be seeing my naked body growing at an alarming rate.

I wouldn't complain if she got fake tits would I... Lol
 
Will gains be easy enough to hide? Like because its over more time will it be less noticeable?
And how would 400mg 13wk compare to 10 week 500?
I THINK I might overall gain more from 400 because I'm a late responder to test 5-6 weeks before results but when they do come they are significantly big. (From 500)

Btw the test is legit amps of abuharain of 250 test e. What's this brand like?
 
She may not like if you get gynecomastia but you probably already now about this. I just started a cycle and I ordered 'a to the drol' (are you allwed to post substance names?) before anti-aromatizing to reduce estrogen and side-effects but have been getting cystic acne in the lower region. Hope the arim idex helps clear it up. May want to consider nol vadex or ar imidex (ideal i hear) or cl omid.
 
Don't worry about hiding it. Get a bottle of Natural Testosterone booster. Replace the contents with B12 pills. If she asks show her you decided to do things the natural way.
 
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She may not like if you get gynecomastia but you probably already now about this. I just started a cycle and I ordered 'a to the drol' (are you allwed to post substance names?) before anti-aromatizing to reduce estrogen and side-effects but have been getting cystic acne in the lower region. Hope the arim idex helps clear it up. May want to consider nol vadex or ar imidex (ideal i hear) or cl omid.
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You can post substance names. Please tell you aren't running just Anadrol, because that's wrong. And if you do happen to be on Testosterone and are using it as an oral you better be below 8% bodyfat or you are going to look like a bloated fucking buffon.

Armidex isn't going to clear up the acne. To much can actually dry the skin and increase sebum production. Now androgens cause sebum production to increase. Sebum is what acne bacteria feed on. Your going to need a some acne wash, some B5 (5 grams a day until acne wains and then 2-3 grams for maintenance), and two showers daily with exfoliation to keep the sebum to a minimuim. If that doesn't work go with 100mg of Doxycycline daily along with that skin regime. You can find it at pet stores. It fights bacteria that causes blemishes and cystic blemishes. I use it myself because you don't need a script and it's human grade- just marketed for birds.

Nolvadex and Clomid are for PCT. If you ever get signs of gyno post a thread here and I will instruct you with a sure fire way to reverse it.
 
You can post substance names and also brands such as britishdragon, arubahain, scimex...
Guido mate, have you any input to the 400 13 week vs 500 10 week question? Dbol is a definite no because my mates gained 14lb in 2 weeks on 30mg. Way too obvious so I'm guessing (with nothing to base this on) that 400mg is better? More on cycle time?
 
nolys said:
You can post substance names and also brands such as britishdragon, arubahain, scimex...
Guido mate, have you any input to the 400 13 week vs 500 10 week question? Dbol is a definite no because my mates gained 14lb in 2 weeks on 30mg. Way too obvious so I'm guessing (with nothing to base this on) that 400mg is better? More on cycle time?
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I would go with 400mg a week for 13 weeks. More on cycle time. It takes 4-5 weeks for Testosterone to kick in as far as gains go. Fuck Dianabol. Overated steroid in my opinion. Most of the gains are water and nothing screams steroid use like blowing up with intracellular water and then suddenly losing all that weight and mass in the weeks following your cycle. I used to always recommend it but there are much better choices. You don't want to use an oral like Anadrol or Dianabol unless you have an extremely low body fat. 8% or lower. Otherwise you will end up looking like a bloofy mess with sloppy water logged muscle. As far as orals, I do suggest running one. I recommend Epistane. It's low key and the muscle won't look like typical bloated uneducated juice head muscle. The Epistane has anti-estrogen properties and your Test dose is on the light side so you might not even have to run Anastrozole during your cycle but I always always recommend a 30 day supply of Letrozole in case gyno develops to stop it in it's tracks and reverse it.

For the record my choice oral is Superdrol. Methylated Masteron. Harsh on the body and toxic as fuck to the liver. If the slabs of lean dry muscle don't give away your steroid use the fatigue and short temper will.
 
Thanks for your imput guido, though I'm at about 9-10% bf at the moment so dbol wouldn't be too bad with bloat but its the rapid weight gain I couldn't hide.
I was leaning towards the 13 weeker myself because the first few weeks are basically a waste anyway. Took 5 weeks on my first cycle before it kicked in at all.

So it is fine in your opinion to use test to get back to where I was? I'm only about 175lb 6ft atm though I'm pretty lean... Tbh its just impatients that I can't stand. I really don't want to spend 2 years getting back where I was
 
As long as you lift religiously and stick to a proper diet I see no problem.
 
nolys said:
Thanks for your imput guido, though I'm at about 9-10% bf at the moment so dbol wouldn't be too bad with bloat but its the rapid weight gain I couldn't hide.
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Even if your low body fat, it doesn't matter. Even at an honest 13ish% for me, 50mg @ 4 weeks, I'll put on over 30lb's of water. Watching the needle on the scale skyrocket is fascinating. I'm preparing for a cycle as we speak. I'm shooting for 200lb by the time I start, and I'll hit 230lb easily if I jump start on d-bol. You look great with a shirt on, but your face is a dead giveaway. It's beyond obvious.
 
I don't know if I agree with you guys on the bloat though, well from personal experiance I can tell you I'm guiding my friend through his first cycle and he did 30mg day for first 2 weeks then 40 for week 3 and now he's on week 4 50mg day and bloat is non existant. Literally non existant and he's a few % bf higher than me. He gained 14lb in 2 weeks at the start off 30mg, I'm not sure of his current weight though.
I didn't bloat whatsoever from test e myself though I know their both completely different compounds.
Do most people bloat in the face?
 
nolys said:
I don't know if I agree with you guys on the bloat though, well from personal experiance I can tell you I'm guiding my friend through his first cycle and he did 30mg day for first 2 weeks then 40 for week 3 and now he's on week 4 50mg day and bloat is non existant. Literally non existant and he's a few % bf higher than me. He gained 14lb in 2 weeks at the start off 30mg, I'm not sure of his current weight though.
I didn't bloat whatsoever from test e myself though I know their both completely different compounds.
Do most people bloat in the face?
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Everyone will put on bloat. It's just a question of how much. Some people can go 4 weeks and only put on 15lbs, minimal bloat, others can put on as much as 40lb. It comes down to the controllable(diet) and uncontrollable(genes) factors.

Yes, you'll bloat in the face. Your face will look puffy.
 
My friend has no noticable bloat whatsoever that's what's confusing me though, even though he's up a lot of weight and he's at 50mg ed now.

What oral in your guys opinions is the best to kickstart a cycle?

And superdrol has always interested me, how is best to run sdrol? End or start of a cycle? I would guess not at the start to avoid heavy shutdown and reduce side effects from no test production, though to be honest I have very limited knowledge on sdrol
 
nolys said:
My friend has no noticable bloat whatsoever that's what's confusing me though, even though he's up a lot of weight and he's at 50mg ed now.

What oral in your guys opinions is the best to kickstart a cycle?

And superdrol has always interested me, how is best to run sdrol? End or start of a cycle? I would guess not at the start to avoid heavy shutdown and reduce side effects from no test production, though to be honest I have very limited knowledge on sdrol
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Trust me, the bloat is there. It may not be subcutaneous, but it's without a doubt intracellular in the muscle.

It depends on your goals. Turnibol is always good. Very little bloat. personally I like compounds with little to no bloat that give dry lean gains.

You always run an oral at the start to kickstart it. Yes, it's going to shut you down but you will be injecting Testosterone so you will have it in your bloodstream. The gains may not start until week 4-5 but the blood level increase will start much earlier.
 
I've read good reports on superdrol and its clones. I like its anti-estrogen properties which sounds appealing. how strong is its anti-e properties? supposedly it shouldn't bloat you too much like dbol and is gyno friendly (hence the "mast" in masteron). though I haven't tried it myself, it would be my oral of choice for kickstarting a cycle though turinabol sounds appealing too... trying to gather all the info I can and maybe pick some up in the future for my future cycle ideas (after the plain test cycle of course). maybe a thread for prohormones/designer steroids could be created to rate pros and cons for all the popular ones and what purposes they are good for (ex: good for bulking cycles with minimal sides for new users, etc)
 
I think your confusing the anti-estrogen properties of Masteron with Superdrol, which is methylated Masteron. Even though they are related Supedrol loses the anti-estrogen effects of Masteron by becoming less androgenic but much more anabolic. Making it orally active changes the very way it works, as is the case with many steroids. Did you know that Equipoise emerged from an experiment that removed the 17-alpha group from Dianabol? Amazing stuff.
 
there was some jockey who got popped for dosing his horse with equipoise for competition. the horse's name was "perfectly poised". dead give away in the name lol.
 
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