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CWE Question

Karma05

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I crushed up 4 500mg paracetamol/15mg codeine caplets.
Put them in hot/warm water, shook for 5 minutes, poured into other container, put into freezer until really cold, filtered through a 100% cotton dress shirt, which took about 20 minutes drip by drip. At the end the water looks slightly cloudy but i can see through it. No silty look.
I gathered up all the white sticky gunk from the shirt and put it into the original packaging the pills came from
I filled up all the way to the top 2.5 out of 4 of them.

Based on this info, how much paracetamol would you say i extracted?

This is important i really need to know now
 
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Patience is a virtue :)

Especially when it comes to your health.

Someone will answer your question shortly.
 
You extracted more than enough from the initial 2g amount that you have nothing to worry about.

Your CWE method is rudimentary to say the least. It's been years since I did it, but there's a ratio of h2o to codeine that determines how much cold water you will use dependent on how many pills you're extracting the codeine from.

Find the ratio and pour appropriate amount of water into beaker
Crush pills as finely as possible
Add powder to water and stir
Place beaker in freezer for 5-10min
During this time moisten two coffee filters
Place one coffee filter over another beaker
Place 2nd filter over the first, leaving a 3-5cm gap between each filter
Remove beaker of dissolved codeine mixture from freezer
Slowly pour solution in to top filter layer of empty beaker
Once entire solution is emptied, wait 10-20 minutes for codeine solution to entirely filter through
Pick up top filter and gently squeeze it till you observe more solution dripping into the second filter
Allow another 5 minutes for complete filtration of squeezed congealed solution to filter through
Examine contents of beaker which should contain virtually colourless, but slightly opaque solution
Drink

Some people might perform a second extraction of the remaining congealed solution by following the same process over again, except using slightly less water than the formula states as there is only very little, insignificant codeine remaining in the congealed gunk. It's generally only worth a second extraction when you're doing large amounts - not 30/500 x 20 pills.

editing...

If you need a figure to rest easy, I will approximate that you extracted >1750mg of acetaminophen, so you ingested a WHOLE 250mg of acetaminophen. Try not to do this again.
 
ingesting 250mg of acetaminophen isn't a big deal.

CWE is simple, take however many pills,
- put them in a glass cup
- fill up cup with enough warm water that it's a liquid mixture and not all gooey,
- put that cup in the fridge for like 30 minutes until they dissolve then stir it all around (water will sit on top)
- grab another cup, put 2-3 coffee filters on it and stir the mixture in your other cup then pour it into new cup, put new cup back in fridge, wait an hour and you'll have a crystal clear solution. This works every single time for me.

I stopped using the freezer a while ago because this gave me better results. If you give it 2-3 hours then you'll get better results, yeah it takes forever but it works.
 
...you ingested a WHOLE 250mg of acetaminophen. Try not to do this again.

ingesting 250mg of acetaminophen isn't a big deal.

I was being extremely sarcastic :)

He could have ingested the whole 2g in one amount and unless he's already suffering hepatic issues it most likely would have just made him nauseous - if that.

DISCLAIMER: NEVER INTENTIONALLY, UNINTENTIONALLY, OR IN ANY WAY INGEST 2G OF ACETAMINOPHEN IN ONE DOSE. TRY TO NOT EVEN INGEST 2G IN 24 HOURS. IN FACT, TRY TO NEVER INGEST ACETAMINOPHEN AS IT IS A USELESS AND HARMFUL DRUG. USE ASPIRIN INSTEAD.

...and just google to see my disclaimer regarding aspirin.
 
Hi guys what water ratio would you recommend for CWE on 15-20 15mg/500mg co codamol. Newbie here and I have been searching threads. Whilst I've found loads of good techniques for CWE for me to try, I attempted his first one but used 250ml of cold (from freezer) water. Realising paracetamol solubility is lowered I would like to tell you the right amount for this many pills. Also this is my breakdown of first extraction:

Hi guys first reply on here, here goes:

I have just attempted a first CWE of codeine 15mg - paracetamol 500mg. I used 6 co-codamol capsules to yield 90mg codeine, which I can attest - makes the whole enterprise much easier especially for a first attempt. After cooling water 250ml in the freezer I added the powder that was obtained from the capsules and added to the water. There was a little bit of clumping however this dissipated after a little stirring and quite quickly the powder collected at the bottom of the glass. It was obvious to me that the paracetamol was of a very similar amount as was first recovered from the capsules which gave me much confidence that this method would yield good results.

As I had no coffee filters so I first used kitchen roll and emptied out teabags as his filtration system - BIG MISTAKE. I found that the absorption of the kitchen roll meant that lots of the liquid was running up and over the edge of the glass. I changed tactics and perforated greaseproof paper and used the same method of teabag and to my joy the liquid was filtered very quickly. I would like to note that after first extraction there was lots of paracetamol precipitate left over, concluding that the extraction had been quite successful. To be safe I placed the extraction back into the freezer and waited for fifteen more minutes to start the process again. To note, there was a very clear liquid which was only lightly cloudy, however after watching extraction videos online I found the results to be comparable and in some cases better.

Although I have used codeine in the past, I felt that for a first attempt at extraction it would be beneficial to be cautious, hence opting for a dosage of 90mg give or take for loss during filtration. Once I feel more comfortable in this process I will up the dosage. In fairness this low dose was to limit the paracetamol intake just in case I had not been as good as thought.

Admittedly this is a first for me, I would much rather be administered a dosage after watching another person go through the process, however after reading extensively other posts, I concluded that this technique is near idiot-proof.

I have not yet dosed but will give a full account. Thanks for reading my first reply, any responses would be greatly appreciated by me.

Happy (insert whatever floats your boat) everybody!!
 
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Hi guys what water ratio would you recommend for CWE on 15-20 15mg/500mg co codamol. Newbie here and I have been searching threads. Whilst I've found loads of good techniques for CWE for me to try, I attempted his first one but used 250ml of cold (from freezer) water. Realising paracetamol solubility is lowered I would like to tell you the right amount for this many pills. Also this is my breakdown of first extraction:

Hi guys first reply on here, here goes:

I have just attempted a first CWE of codeine 15mg - paracetamol 500mg. I used 6 co-codamol capsules to yield 90mg codeine, which I can attest - makes the whole enterprise much easier especially for a first attempt. After cooling water 250ml in the freezer I added the powder that was obtained from the capsules and added to the water. There was a little bit of clumping however this dissipated after a little stirring and quite quickly the powder collected at the bottom of the glass. It was obvious to me that the paracetamol was of a very similar amount as was first recovered from the capsules which gave me much confidence that this method would yield good results.

As I had no coffee filters so I first used kitchen roll and emptied out teabags as his filtration system - BIG MISTAKE. I found that the absorption of the kitchen roll meant that lots of the liquid was running up and over the edge of the glass. I changed tactics and perforated greaseproof paper and used the same method of teabag and to my joy the liquid was filtered very quickly. I would like to note that after first extraction there was lots of paracetamol precipitate left over, concluding that the extraction had been quite successful. To be safe I placed the extraction back into the freezer and waited for fifteen more minutes to start the process again. To note, there was a very clear liquid which was only lightly cloudy, however after watching extraction videos online I found the results to be comparable and in some cases better.

Although I have used codeine in the past, I felt that for a first attempt at extraction it would be beneficial to be cautious, hence opting for a dosage of 90mg give or take for loss during filtration. Once I feel more comfortable in this process I will up the dosage. In fairness this low dose was to limit the paracetamol intake just in case I had not been as good as thought.

Admittedly this is a first for me, I would much rather be administered a dosage after watching another person go through the process, however after reading extensively other posts, I concluded that this technique is near idiot-proof.

I have not yet dosed but will give a full account. Thanks for reading my first reply, any responses would be greatly appreciated by me.

Happy (insert whatever floats your boat) everybody!!

Ha, I has read from various places and 'swim' kept popping up. I was trying to maintain etiquette - wrongly it seems! Thanks for pointing out for me though. After a re-read I know have a post that is somewhat schizophrenic sounding! Hey ho.
 
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