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Opioids CWE -Cold water extraction- Evaporating to obtain solid

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olsencorey0029

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Im verrrry sorry if someone has already done this thread i couldnt find one similar to this. When i do a cold water extraction for norcos i usually do all the steps and then drink the water that i am left with at the end. It does taste horribly but I do like the ability to control the amount of ACAP going into myself. Does anyone know if you can dry out and dissolve the water and be left with a pure opiate powder? I really dont know how that part would work and I was also wondering does it also work for perks in order to snort them? Just wondering, I could get regular OC to snort if i wanted. once again Sorry if this is a rethread, I couldnt find anything too similar and i am very new to the site. If anyone knows anything about this please fill me in.;)
 
In theory it would work, if you let the water evaporate, not dissolve. I've never tried it (just drank the CWE solution) nor have I heard of other people trying it. But maybe somebody on here has...

CWE does work on Percocets as well, as they are an opiate/APAP combination product just like Vicodin is.

*Just nitpicking, it's APAP, not ACAP.

Here is a link to the Cold Water Extraction/CWE Megathread...lots and lots of great information is there, if you haven't seen it already ;)

Also, welcome to Bluelight!
 
ive done it and snorted the powder. to be completley honest, lets just say it was a waste of percocets :( it didnt do shit to me
 
aha, thank you - Hahaha yeah i know its APAP! my bottle was right, my brain was wrong tehee. Yeah so you have tried it before with some Perks? I might be coming across about 100 of them and Tylenal is not my friend. Someone also told me once that if you flavor the Solution that it will dilute it and it would not be as effective. In my own experience i have not seen any change, but then again I usually CWE at least 10-12 at once. And thank you, i love this website. Everyone is so insightful. I have a lot of information in my head about opiates and benzos and whatnot, but man is there a lot to learn!! I really enjoy it! :D
 
oh really? how many did you use? that is really weird, because in theory like neighborhood threat said it should work. But thanks for telling me, i almost wasted a lot of those lil guys, and i really like those lil guys! haha
 
Someone also told me once that if you flavor the Solution that it will dilute it and it would not be as effective. In my own experience i have not seen any change, but then again I usually CWE at least 10-12 at once.
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Flavoring or diluting the solution won't change its potency, you'll just have to drink more solution (if you dilute it, that is).

A friend of mine once did a CWE on Norcos (hydrocodone + APAP) and flavored it with Kool-Aid. There was no change to the potency of the solution, it just tasted a lot better. ;)
 
hahaha yeah that is a no brainer - ill take grape water over chalk water anytime. Thanks for the info NT (neighborhoodThreat) not Neurotransmitter hehe
 
hahaha yeah that is a no brainer - ill take grape water over chalk water anytime. Thanks for the info NT (neighborhoodThreat) not Neurotransmitter hehe
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No problem man. For future reference, if you have a question about CWE's, use the search function and post in the megathread (or the thread related to your question) if you can, that will bump the thread back up to the top of the page and other BLer's will see it and be able to answer. :)

Best of luck with your CWE!

*Oh, and it wasn't grape Kool-Aid, sadly, it was cherry. 8o
 
The only thing I will say Olsencorey is that you stated Tylenol is not your friend, are you allergic or just in a situation where taking Tylenol is not a good option? The reason I ask is because even with a CWE some APAP does get through, it's a small ammount but it's still present, and you said you were getting 100 percs so it made me wonder. Just be careful, just because you CWE doesn't mean there isn't still some APAP present, not sure what the ratios are, maybe you could find it in the megathread.
 
Just be careful, just because you CWE doesn't mean there isn't still some APAP present, not sure what the ratios are, maybe you could find it in the megathread.
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The ratios are usually variable, as there are different methods of straining/filtering the solution, temperature variables, etc.

I'm wondering the same thing though, I'm pretty sure he just meant he didn't want to overdose on APAP...I hope
 
I appreciate the concern, not allergic, just have a ulcer I am tending to currently. Yeah I always figured that the APAP** got through my cheese cloth because I can taste the junk but thank you for that information I think a lot of people think it eliminates it. I do like to do the CwE more than once though, so my grape solution will have Less and less each time. Yeah NT you are correct on your hopes. Thanks a lot for in info guys it has helped and also made me not waste any percocets :). We all know that would of been a disaster!!
 
You get about 1g of APAP per 100ml of solution in ideal situations so any cloudiness will be in addition to that.

Evaporating the water will definitely leave you with the salts. I've done this multiple times (albeit with a chemical extraction) and it works fine. Remember though that the resulting solid will also be some solid APAP and dissolved filler so it shouldn't be injected without micron filtering.
 
Ok then Olsen, the only tips I can give you to really reduce the APAP is using very cold water and after you filter through cheesecloth use a coffee filter as it will capture even more of the APAP.
 
^^Indeed. Please do not inject without micron filtering, even if your resulting CWE solution is not cloudy.

If you're planning on snorting it, however, that isn't an issue. There will still be some APAP in the resulting solid which can cause the usual issues with snorting Tylenol. I recommend using a nasal spray to clean out your nasal regions after snorting to mitigate those issues.
 
Ok then Olsen, the only tips I can give you to really reduce the APAP is using very cold water and after you filter through cheesecloth use a coffee filter as it will capture even more of the APAP.
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^Using less water would be the easiest variable to control and most effective way of limiting APAP. Filtering twice with a major volume reduction after the first one might be necessary (to deal with bulk in the first one).
 
Dont waste the perk!

also yeah two to three times works awesome!

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Won't heat ruin the opiates left in the solution while it's evaporating? Could a microwave be used or is time the best method?
 
Too high of heat will ruin it, it breaks down the opiates. So does strong UV light. Best to let it evaporate on its own, or use really low heat.
 
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Too high of heat will ruin it, it breaks down the opiates. So does strong UV light. Best to let it evaporate on its own, or use really low heat.
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how about using an oven set on the warm setting? is that too hot? and how long does water take to evaporate just sitting at room temp? I know that the more surface area you have the quicker it will evaporate but that's about all I know about it lol
 
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