Cutting body fat

I think something like this is what Guido was meaning....

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marinet said:
is 100g of protein /day still needed if i dont care about my muscle? like if i want just want to shrink down overall, dont care if i lose muscle with fat. ? i just got a job, and i eat 2 times a day now, luch some meat + veggies + some random shit like potatoes ( small portion ), and evening couple bits of chicken breast + veggies, thats all. Will my body go into "starvation" mode lol...? sorry for being so stupid :(
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The stupid person is the person who doesn't ask questions. Serotonin101 answered your question perfectly.
 
marinet said:
is 100g of protein /day still needed if i dont care about my muscle? like if i want just want to shrink down overall, dont care if i lose muscle with fat. ? i just got a job, and i eat 2 times a day now, luch some meat + veggies + some random shit like potatoes ( small portion ), and evening couple bits of chicken breast + veggies, thats all. Will my body go into "starvation" mode lol...? sorry for being so stupid :(
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Good baseline rule of thumb, 1g protein per kg bodyweight minimum, don't eat any carbs after 3-4pm in the afternoon, and a 35-45 minute Very Fast walk/jog in the morning before you eat will help you cut body fat % nicely.
If you want some non-natural goodies in there, clenbuterol, albuterol, are both great for helping shred, stanazolol is also (converts into dihydrotestosterone at a very high rate so can cause aromatization badly) or Tribolin (dunno if you can get that where you're at, it's pretty easy to get in Oz)
 
stackman said:
Good baseline rule of thumb, 1g protein per kg bodyweight minimum, don't eat any carbs after 3-4pm in the afternoon, and a 35-45 minute Very Fast walk/jog in the morning before you eat will help you cut body fat % nicely.
If you want some non-natural goodies in there, clenbuterol, albuterol, are both great for helping shred, stanazolol is also (converts into dihydrotestosterone at a very high rate so can cause aromatization badly) or Tribolin (dunno if you can get that where you're at, it's pretty easy to get in Oz)
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Lol'ing hard at all the broscience.
 
stackman said:
Good baseline rule of thumb, 1g protein per kg bodyweight minimum, don't eat any carbs after 3-4pm in the afternoon, and a 35-45 minute Very Fast walk/jog in the morning before you eat will help you cut body fat % nicely.
If you want some non-natural goodies in there, clenbuterol, albuterol, are both great for helping shred, stanazolol is also (converts into dihydrotestosterone at a very high rate so can cause aromatization badly) or Tribolin (dunno if you can get that where you're at, it's pretty easy to get in Oz)
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The fuck? Stanazol is SHIT for losing body fat. All it does is dry out body of subcutaneous water and harden the muscles. You wont see any great results unless you are 8% or less in terms of body fat and even then Stanazol is a contest drug, because once you go off of it that dryness and vascularity vanishes. Stanazol is also a derivative of dihydrotestosterone so it doesn't convert to estrogen. Aromitization is the conversion of a steroid to estrogen.

Tribolin is also shit. Granted it contains Nandrolone Phenylpropionate which is a great steroid but it contains Methandriol and that steroid has a high conversion rate to estrogen. The water retention from that steroid causes serious blood pressure issues. No pro in the bodybuilding community uses that steroid because it will make you look and feel like dog shit.

You fuckers in Australia seriously need a lesson in anabolic androgenic steroids.
 
Voxide said:
Lol'ing hard at all the broscience.
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I don't know if he is a troll or a fucking idiot in need of proper education but it seems all pretend bodybuilders in Australia base there knowledge of steroids on what other pretend bodybuilders spout in the gym.
 
But if he is a troll he accomplished his mission. I'm fucking seething with anger right now. Maybe it's the Tren, maybe it's just that I'm allergic to fucking idiots and bro science, maybe he should go fuck himself.
 
He's not a troll. He's just a subtle, friendly reminder as to why I hardly post around these parts anymore.
 
maybe he could try AIDS wasting. they seem to lose weight pretty quickly (and you get a nice script for roids too). two birds one stone. <sarcasm>
 
go vegan bro. no but rly i'm all about beastmode bodyweight gymnastic strength conditioning and my performance/feats are developing insanely on a high protein strict vegan diet...

Of course going vegetarian is also a wise and excellent choice for building muscle with minimal recovery time, superhuman strength gains not seen by a standard animal protein diet as the majority of muscle heads fall into, giving up cheese and milk protein was the hardest choice i ever made, but cutting the dairy has given me a tremendous boost in muscular endurance and accelerated recovery time i can not stress a plant-based protein diet strongly enough.

At least look into it, steroids are a bad story if i ever heard one, the shit runs in my family i am not biased or anything of shooting roids, it does build freaky muscle fast, but i have found a higher way...more rewarding mentally, physically, and spiritually...

not tryin to preach just sharing my life experience for those interested :)
 
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YO, am i catching some serious hate for my vegan statement or what? This was a steroids thread, and i have used them myself. There are several ways to build solid muscle. Protein supp's and weightlifting seem to be the fastest, if you exalt that with roid use that is a personal matter, HOWEVER i have found that superior strength (cut ass beastmode muscles) can be achieved through a more natural means, like me or not i speak from straight experience..:)
 
Voxide said:
He's not a troll. He's just a subtle, friendly reminder as to why I hardly post around these parts anymore.
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You post over at GH15? If you don't you would love it there. Registration is closed for the time being but when it opens back up and your interested I will vouch for you so you can get right in immediately.

Idiots get banned immediately over there. Zyzz and Chestbrah are looked at as fucking faggots. People who post with that bb.com "Misc" attitude get banned. It's for serious bodybuilders only and every few weeks people get banned if they are found out to be kids trying to get shredded for raves. If you use drugs you are banned. If you are underage you are banned. Oral only cycles get laughed at. Faggots who run grams of Test without HGH get laughed at.

I do my best to take knowledge from there and send it here.
 
Serotonin101 said:
maybe he could try AIDS wasting. they seem to lose weight pretty quickly (and you get a nice script for roids too). two birds one stone. <sarcasm>
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It may sound morbid but I have already asked a few people at my clinic who have AIDS about selling me there HGH. I'm waiting for a guy to call me back; He only likes 1/5 of his script because it makes his hands tingle so he has a whole stockpile of it. If the price is right I'm buying it. Human grade FDA approved HGH.
 
-Guido- said:
It may sound morbid but I have already asked a few people at my clinic who have AIDS about selling me there HGH. I'm waiting for a guy to call me back; He only likes 1/5 of his script because it makes his hands tingle so he has a whole stockpile of it. If the price is right I'm buying it. Human grade FDA approved HGH.
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that sounds like an awesome deal! best of luck with it. maybe Santa will give you some hgh this year. :D
 
seers_eye said:
YO, am i catching some serious hate for my vegan statement or what? This was a steroids thread, and i have used them myself. There are several ways to build solid muscle. Protein supp's and weightlifting seem to be the fastest, if you exalt that with roid use that is a personal matter, HOWEVER i have found that superior strength (cut ass beastmode muscles) can be achieved through a more natural means, like me or not i speak from straight experience..:)
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Not hate, just an overwhelming sense of apathy towards you, your goals, or your current stats. It has nothing to do with liking you or not. We just don't give a fuck about your opinion on anything until you actually look like you lift. You could always talk to some of the naturals in here about that but I doubt they'll care too much either.

That's all :)

The fact that you're using a moral high ground in regards to health considering your past use is hilarious. I'll take a diet of red meat and whole milk over a diet of ecstasy and crack cocaine any day of the week. Most sane health professionals and registered dieticians would agree.
-Guido- said:
You post over at GH15? If you don't you would love it there. Registration is closed for the time being but when it opens back up and your interested I will vouch for you so you can get right in immediately.

Idiots get banned immediately over there. Zyzz and Chestbrah are looked at as fucking faggots. People who post with that bb.com "Misc" attitude get banned. It's for serious bodybuilders only and every few weeks people get banned if they are found out to be kids trying to get shredded for raves. If you use drugs you are banned. If you are underage you are banned. Oral only cycles get laughed at. Faggots who run grams of Test without HGH get laughed at.

I do my best to take knowledge from there and send it here.
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I'd appreciate it a lot. Sounds like my type of place.
 
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-Guido- said:
You post over at GH15? If you don't you would love it there. Registration is closed for the time being but when it opens back up and your interested I will vouch for you so you can get right in immediately.

Idiots get banned immediately over there. Zyzz and Chestbrah are looked at as fucking faggots. People who post with that bb.com "Misc" attitude get banned. It's for serious bodybuilders only and every few weeks people get banned if they are found out to be kids trying to get shredded for raves. If you use drugs you are banned. If you are underage you are banned. Oral only cycles get laughed at. Faggots who run grams of Test without HGH get laughed at.

I do my best to take knowledge from there and send it here.
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It looks a decent site, if its mostly idiot free I'd be interested to know when registration is available again (subject to approval)...
 
Genetic Freak said:
It looks a decent site, if its mostly idiot free I'd be interested to know when registration is available again (subject to approval)...
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Derp. I almost forgot about you. When registration is open I will make sure I get you and Voxide get in. You guys would like it. The guy who runs the site is a bit eccentric but is a genius in regards to bodybuilding. He is a pro bodybuilder that went rouge and shares all the information he can on how a guy can easily go pro if he has the dedication, the knowledge, and isn't a fucking child.

Like I said I isn't for fucking children or amateur steroid users. People there blast and cruise because they aren't supporting a drug habit, don't have to worry about mommy daddy checking the mail, have steady long term employment, and are dedicated to training and eating right.

I take a lot of what I learn there and inject it into this forum because most people here aren't making a lifestyle out of bodybuilding which is not a bad thing; Some people just want to be fit, in shape, and have a really low body fat with some muscle, and then there are a few who want the extreme of that.
 
-Guido- said:
Derp. I almost forgot about you. When registration is open I will make sure I get you and Voxide get in. You guys would like it. The guy who runs the site is a bit eccentric but is a genius in regards to bodybuilding. He is a pro bodybuilder that went rouge and shares all the information he can on how a guy can easily go pro if he has the dedication, the knowledge, and isn't a fucking child.

Like I said I isn't for fucking children or amateur steroid users. People there blast and cruise because they aren't supporting a drug habit, don't have to worry about mommy daddy checking the mail, have steady long term employment, and are dedicated to training and eating right.

I take a lot of what I learn there and inject it into this forum because most people here aren't making a lifestyle out of bodybuilding which is not a bad thing; Some people just want to be fit, in shape, and have a really low body fat with some muscle, and then there are a few who want the extreme of that.
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Yeah, gh15 is a smart guy. There are rumors that it's actually Nasser, whether that's true or not I have no idea. I enjoy his no sugar coating approach but I have to disagree with him on the point that bodybuilding is a lifestyle that is unsustainable in regards to drug-free training. That type of thinking is just fundamentally flawed in it's very nature because plenty of people have and continue to sustain it naturally. He seems too bitter about his past competitions at times and that results in such controversial statements. It's just an undermining of individual effort.
 
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