shit.i'm 44 and will never come off.my boy at age 51 just did his 1st shows back to back this summer.3rd place then 1st and 2nd the last two shows.never too old.good old bread and butter cycle with igf-des/hgh and he was golden.went fro 245 and 9% b/f down to 217 at 4% b/f.3wks before the 1st show he felt he was losing too much too fast.did a 10 day run with folli and put on 10lbs in 7 days then dropped 5lbs the week of the show.ripped to shreds.back up to his old 250ish now,off gear.me...i'll never stop.my own trt,lol!