Stimulants Crystalline Methamphetamine Hydro-chloride question

[MAmp]

1st question... Ok so from what I understand Crank is non-crystalline Methamphetamine, but is the chemical structure of Crystal Meth in any way different then basic Methamphetamine or is it just meth melted down and solidified back into a solid? from what I understand any "cut" in Crystal meth is only an imbalance or lack of refining during production. So with perfect weather on a perfect day in a perfect world is "perfect" Crystal meth possible and how much better would the effect be Vs. the amount needed to feel it be to some decent dope.

2nd question does meth have a "Shelf life" meaning will it loose potency days or weeks after being made?

On a scale of 1 to 10 with 5 being the average tweakers knowledge on the chemistry and behavior of Crystal meth I think I'd score a 7 but Meth is the only Amphetamine I'm knowledgeable in. I recently took a look at all the different Amps and this brings us to the 3rd question ...

I was wondering if any of the amps have a stronger effect on focus. energy, and all that go fast shit. I'm haveing to take a retarded amount of meth to get my energy up (.7) and I have no idea how much it takes to get high anymore. I haven't felt "high" for a while now but its around a 1.0 to 1.5g. My friend she slams so she can get high easy (just not by her self) I just smoke and use hot rails but between us both we could use an 1/8 in a few hours and be able to take PLENTY more comfortably. Funny thing is we have hardly any physical damage I'v been smoking for 8 or 9 years and only have one tooth all the way in the back thats decayed but shit happens right? lol. She looks a little more worked but shes 38 I'm 21. We might get a zit here or there but useualy unless some one is a user they never expect it from us... So quitting or taking a break.... not such an appealing choice to lower tolerance I just want something stronger to use less simply because it is a dent in my paycheck for sure...

 

[tricomb]

Have you ever tried modafinil? It helps a lot of people who want to quit dealing with feeling lethargic and the lack of motivation.

As for physical damage, you don't really know what damage you've done yet unless you've had your brain scanned by your doctors recently.

Methamphetamine, stored properly can last a long time.

Crank, is just cheaply/poorly made methamphetamine. It's still methamphetamine but it won't look anything like shard or glass, likely due to shortcuts taken during production. Stuff like shake and bake you know? Lazy shit.

 

[MAmp]

No I have not even heard of that ill take a look into it. And brain damage is relative, I look LSD and it cured my shaky hand problem. I have met people who got shot in the head and are happier with a better outlook in life and going back to school. You make your own reality that is why bad things happen to nice people... because you can be nice and do nice things but if you are a negative person and always think negative that is what you will get. My realty is my psychosis

 

[tricomb]

Shake and bake is a lazy, dangerous, way of synthesizing cheapo methamp, but it takes so many shortcuts. I'm not getting into details it's against our rules, but it's just bad news no matter how you slice it.

 

[sekio]

If you're at the point where you need >700mg* of methamphetamine for good effects, you are probably incurring neurotoxicity... literally killing your brain cells with every dose. *assuming even 50% purity

Anyway.

1. Crank is slang for (usually low grade) methamphetamine. Whether or not meth is crystalline or not means absolutely nothing. Impurities in meth can either result from crappy cooking/poor seperation of products, or meth dealers adding things like methylsulfonylmethane (MSM), epsom salts etc to their crystal as "bulking agents".

2. Properly made and clean crystal methamphetamine hydrochloride is hygroscopic (absorbs water from the air, will eventually turn into a puddle on a humid day) but if stored dry it should remain good essentially forever. Less pure meth may be variable depending on what contaminants there are. I would expect if it's anywhere near "clean" (not full of reaction byproducts), it would last for 10s of years.

3. Methamphetamine is considered the "strongest" amphetamine by far. Nothing save for the "true neurotoxins" are more effective than meth at causing monoamine release.

Unfortunately you seem to have reached the stage of amphetamine abuse where it loses the "fun" component. This seems to only be reversible with years of abstinence, and may be caused by a variety of things from neurotoxicity to physical tolerance to situational toleracne from using in the same setting.

Ethylamphetamine, I believe, is considered to be a superior and "smoother" experience, but it's rarely availiable as a street drug.
Modafinil has been used rather successfuly for treating amphetamine induced brain fog, and is a good stimulant, but doesn't neccesarily make you "feel good". Other relatives: armodafinil (~2x as effective dose wise) and adrafinil (modafinil prodrug).
Caffeine is actually a really powerful stimulant if you don't overuse it, believe it or not.

A lot of the damage from methamphetamine itself actually isn't visible - it's in the form of a mild sort of Parkinsons disease (twitching, motor tics, memory loss, apathy, lethargy, personality changes, etc) that starts developing as your brain cells die off from being overstimulated by the powerful monoamine release of meth. It's really only visible in systematic mental tests and on CT/MRI scans.

There is some evidence that after 1 or 2 year of total abstinence from methamphetamine use, the brain begins to heal itself. So it may be as simple as using a much jmilder drug like modafinil and closing the book on crystal meth.

 

[tricomb]

^Good posting S