Creatine and Omega 3's?

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I've been watching podcasts singing praises for creatine.

Increase in cognitive performance, improved sleep, all this good stuff.

Creapure, the brand name, highest quality. Does anyone use this and how do you find its benefits and/or drawbacks?

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On the topic of supplementation, Omega 3's are the other important one.

I understand they're better acquire through fish sources vs extracted fish oil, but I'm also concerned about heavy metals, mercury etc.

A couple cans of sardines a week seems to be a reliable and recommended source of Omega 3.

Any experiences on how to introduce this into the diet?
 
JohnBoy2000 said:
I've been watching podcasts singing praises for creatine.

Increase in cognitive performance, improved sleep, all this good stuff.

Creapure, the brand name, highest quality. Does anyone use this and how do you find its benefits and/or drawbacks?

.......

On the topic of supplementation, Omega 3's are the other important one.

I understand they're better acquire through fish sources vs extracted fish oil, but I'm also concerned about heavy metals, mercury etc.

A couple cans of sardines a week seems to be a reliable and recommended source of Omega 3.

Any experiences on how to introduce this into the diet?
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I’ve seen before some figures claim that Truly Free Range Egg yolks can get up to 300mg per Egg if you’re willing to eat 5+ Organic Pasture Raised Eggs EVERY day.

Here’s a study that reviews a difference between Cage/Free butttt they did give the chickens liver and suet aswell.

Fatty Acid and Antioxidant Profile of Eggs from Pasture-Raised Hens Fed a Corn- and Soy-Free Diet and Supplemented with Grass-Fed Beef Suet and Liver - PMC

There is increasing interest in using grass-fed beef (GFB) by-products to augment the nutrient profile of eggs among local pasture-raising systems in the US. The objective of this study was to characterize egg yolk fatty acid and antioxidant ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

There’s this and that about the fish, it’s going to get worse every year, the general echo is get the cleanest fish, and also a fish that is smaller etc etc..

I know you mentioned solely diet, but I take Algae Oil and Cod Liver Oil, getting the bulk of my Omega 3 from the Algae, I’ve been meaning to look closer into it, but I came across some speculatives around it being cleaner and less prone to oxidation as it’s grown “Organically”
 
JohnBoy2000 said:
I've been watching podcasts singing praises for creatine.

Increase in cognitive performance, improved sleep, all this good stuff.

Creapure, the brand name, highest quality. Does anyone use this and how do you find its benefits and/or drawbacks?
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Someone mentioned Creatine to me too,
never knew it had also cognitive enhancing, sleep improvement. Sounds good.
Name suggest s it would also boost creativity ;) its derived from Greek for meat.
"kreas"i love word s sorry, and the background of em.

Suffering musscle pain, started training at home yesterday did 4 !
Austrelian Pull up s, in our new build grown up train park.
There was a other dad, 12 year younger 3 lil ones.
The all out-beat me. Now my muscles tell PAIN. btw i mostly Vegan.

not hard-core/ straight edge, 1 time a week meat 1/ 2 x Fish.
So supplementing seems even more needed.
"creatine monohydrate is the most effective nutritional supplement to increase high intensity exercise capacity and muscle mass during training"
i need it now, ouch.
JohnBoy2000 said:
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On the topic of supplementation, Omega 3's are the other important one.

I understand they're better acquire through fish sources vs extracted fish oil, but I'm also concerned about heavy metals, mercury etc.

A couple cans of sardines a week seems to be a reliable and recommended source of Omega 3.

Any experiences on how to introduce this into the diet?
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Distrust in the Omega s, which they also won from Algue s a veggie option.
Or in it natural plant from, Alpha-Linolenic Acid [ALA not Alpha Lipoic Acid].
The former unstable in the oil. Its in Line/ Flax-seed Oil
3 weeks cooled and its rancid after, garbage.
But the body att was the theory.
Makes Omega 3 as needed from it,
while assuming HQ fish oil.

Is basically a overload, taken at once.
There was a theory, hopefully debunked.
Omega 3 supplement s taken the access stored n the skin,
and also a the very unstable fat
Oxidized and promoted skin cancer.

So i eat Pilchard s, Salmon and such.
 
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Creatine was a bit expensive, they where 3 for 2 yesterday.
Bought a bag of Pre work-out powder thinking to add to my Pea-Protein/ BCCA s.

And thought fuck Sucralose [Stevia ao are acceptabele/ not those chemicals]
The kill your Gut Microbiome. Well i risk it and otherwise ditch it.
It was in the sale corner, cheap

Ingredient s:
l-Citruline -malaat / 1800 mg l-Citruline
beta -Alanine 640 mg
l-Taurine 72 mg [wow that is not a lot]
 
Tried creatine earlier this year but it seemed like i was a non-responder. Didn't notice any effects beyond maybe some very light belly disturbances. Maybe an imperceptible increase in training endurance. I decided i'm not even that interested in having constantly water-bloated muscles anyway.

No cognitive benefits but then again i'm used to a routine of mind alteration so i may just not have had the right conditions to notice.
 
L-Citrulline someone wrote is Superior over l-Arginine.
For knocking hard wood [down thier], not that i have a issue,
but bigger better stronger. Sounds as a nice side effect.

Why not. Is that really one of its pharmacologic effect s ?
1.5 gr sound s as a large dose, of l-Citruline [its in malaat form]

Why is it in a pre-workut supp. ?
 
emkee_reinvented said:
Why is it in a pre-workut supp. ?
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Blood flow, so then bigger pumps in the gym

I used to have L-Cit in my stack and it’s decently reliable for this effect, providing you also are hydrated and are full of glycogen or carbs before your workout.

I’d like to take it again, for the blood flow and I believe it also lowers blood pressure, useful for me as a daily stimulant user.

But I’ve been to lazy to order some, so I just eat 3-4 cloves of raw garlic when I remember and it produces a identical effect, I slice into pill sizes and swallow whole and avoid the garlic breath.

I don’t mind it but the missus certainly does, so I devised the pill method.
 
KurtAurelius said:
Blood flow, so then bigger pumps in the gym

I used to have L-Cit in my stack and it’s decently reliable for this effect, providing you also are hydrated and are full of glycogen or carbs before your workout.

I’d like to take it again, for the blood flow and I believe it also lowers blood pressure, useful for me as a daily stimulant user.

But I’ve been to lazy to order some, so I just eat 3-4 cloves of raw garlic when I remember and it produces a identical effect, I slice into pill sizes and swallow whole and avoid the garlic breath.

I don’t mind it but the missus certainly does, so I devised the pill method.
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Garlic for ? Allicine forms about 9 minutes after raw hurting/ puvlerice whatever,
Then heating short stops this proces, important. Heat to long it gets bitter.
So max x minutes.

Then you have a active herbal med.

https://realitypathing.com/steps-to-prepare-fresh-garlic-for-maximum-allicin/
 
Mjäll said:
No cognitive benefits but then again i'm used to a routine of mind alteration so i may just not have had the right conditions to notice.
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It looks like creatine shares some similarities with ketamine and agmatine. Mildly psychoactive you could say.

Creatine, similar to ketamine, counteracts depressive-like behavior induced by corticosterone via PI3K/Akt/mTOR pathway
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26660117/
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Creatine, similarly to ketamine, affords antidepressant-like effects in the tail suspension test via adenosine A1 and A2A receptor activation
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4425723/
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Novel Targets for Fast Antidepressant Responses: Possible Role of Endogenous Neuromodulators
This evidence suggests that creatine could share with ketamine the ability to promote a fast antidepressant-like response.
...the ability of creatine to enhance the number and function of dendritic spines, an event that has been shown to be crucial for the rapid antidepressant responses.

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On cod/fish/algae/omega-type oils:
Despite the nutritional value of those vitamins, fish oils are generally much more immunosuppressive than the seed oils, and the early effects of fish oil on the "immune system" include the suppression of prostaglandin synthesis, because the more highly unsaturated long chain fats interfere with the conversion of linoleic acid into arachidonic acid and prostaglandins. The prostaglandins are so problematic that their suppression is helpful, whether the inhibition is caused by aspirin or vitamin E, or by fish oil.
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Some of the important anti-inflammatory effects of fish oil result from the oxidized oils, rather than the unchanged oils (Sethi, 2002; Chaudhary, et al., 2004). These oils are so unstable that they begin to spontaneously oxidize even before they reach the bloodstream.
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Allylbenzene said:
It looks like creatine shares some similarities with ketamine and agmatine. Mildly psychoactive you could say.





On cod/fish/algae/omega-type oils:
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That the last scientific info i read on said the same , so i am convinced.
Do you got a link, i be very interested reading it. To bad it also mean s:
Algae epa/ dha and Lin-seed ALA. Are when oxidated are pro-oxidant s.
But when still fresh, i read the body makes omega 3 as needed.
From fresh Line/ Flax Seed oil/ Alpha Linolenic Acid, i ll try to find some scientific validation.

I don t take the pure fish oil s cause of this, my kid are fed it [divorced]
 
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