Help! Crazy combo idea I need your expert opinions

[Axemancometh]

I've been thinking of doing a super flip with a bunch of my drugs to celebrate the end of my undergrad. I would like to do a little mix of them all. Here's what I'm considering:

1. 65ug (half tab) of acid
2. 15mg Methylallylescaline
3. 15mg 2C-B
4. 20mg 4-PrO-DMT

I think this would be one of the craziest psychedelic flips ever. I'm still working on considering the proper dosing, and I don't know If I should line up the PrO-DMT and 2C-B peaks with that of the acid and MAL, or if I should gun for 2C-B first because it has a different tolerance clock. (or so I've heard)

I plan on being outside, so I'm going to bring a fair bit of water - I don't know if I should bring some of that electrolyte powder too, or maybe even a snack (I don't imagine I'll be very hungry)

What do you think? Would this be interesting to hear about? Or would I be committing chemical suicide?

 

[cnnka]

What exactly is the goal of this experiment of yours? What are you trying to achieve? Just to see the experience?

I think that after a certain point it just kind of “blurs out” it’ll just be a lot of psychedelia, but I don’t think anything truly distinct will come out of it, since there isn’t really a combination that makes sense. It would make more sense to me, for example, to take methylescaline and then around the peak take 2C-B, so you get two peaks from similar substances.

Or take LSD and then ketamine near the peak.
Or mushrooms and then DMT near the peak.

These seem like more “targeted” combinations to me. What you’re describing feels more like a kitchen sink approach, since they all more or less do the same thing, activating similar receptors, etc. I don’t think this trip will give anything unique compared to just taking a higher dose of one or two substances. Especially considering that in blind studies, psychedelics aren’t that easy to distinguish anyway.

As for the dosages, it sounds okay overall maybe I’d lower the 4-pro-DMT a bit.

 

[TheLightBringer]

I've been thinking of doing a super flip with a bunch of my drugs to celebrate the end of my undergrad. I would like to do a little mix of them all. Here's what I'm considering:

1. 65ug (half tab) of acid
2. 15mg Methylallylescaline
3. 15mg 2C-B
4. 20mg 4-PrO-DMT

I think this would be one of the craziest psychedelic flips ever. I'm still working on considering the proper dosing, and I don't know If I should line up the PrO-DMT and 2C-B peaks with that of the acid and MAL, or if I should gun for 2C-B first because it has a different tolerance clock. (or so I've heard)

I plan on being outside, so I'm going to bring a fair bit of water - I don't know if I should bring some of that electrolyte powder too, or maybe even a snack (I don't imagine I'll be very hungry)

What do you think? Would this be interesting to hear about? Or would I be committing chemical suicide?

Hmm its nothing too crazy if youre used to these dosages. But like another commenter said the experience will likely be a bit blurred/show less specific character out of the mentioned compounds. Ive sometimes seen people combining 3+ psychedelics describe it as if the compounds were ”fighting” eachother in terms of which visuals and headspace was the most prominent.

I think you will still have a good experience though, my only concern is the difference in duration, 2C-B will likely be over the quickest with the MAL and 4-pro-DMT leaving second and leaving you with the tail end of the LSD experience for a few hours extra. Although with these low doses maybe theyll last a similar time who knows.

Id settle for a higher dosage of just 2 psychedelics if it were me. Just MAL + 2C-B sounds heavenly in my mind

 

[Esperighanto]

I've been thinking of doing a super flip with a bunch of my drugs to celebrate the end of my undergrad. I would like to do a little mix of them all. Here's what I'm considering:

1. 65ug (half tab) of acid
2. 15mg Methylallylescaline
3. 15mg 2C-B
4. 20mg 4-PrO-DMT

I think this would be one of the craziest psychedelic flips ever. I'm still working on considering the proper dosing, and I don't know If I should line up the PrO-DMT and 2C-B peaks with that of the acid and MAL, or if I should gun for 2C-B first because it has a different tolerance clock. (or so I've heard)

I plan on being outside, so I'm going to bring a fair bit of water - I don't know if I should bring some of that electrolyte powder too, or maybe even a snack (I don't imagine I'll be very hungry)

What do you think? Would this be interesting to hear about? Or would I be committing chemical suicide?

Isn't it usually referred to as a flip when you both trip and roll? I may be wrong there but I was under the assumption that the name only referred to that combination. Genuinely curious if I'm wrong here though, I have no idea tbh.

I have done very similar mixes, allylescaline, LSD, 2C-B and miprocin is rather close and I'm maybe 5-10 times deep with that exact combination, often with 3-HO-PCP, MDA, ketamine and/or MDMA. If you want your combination to be as comfortable as possible, let the 2C-B come up first, then dose the methallylescaline, 4-PrO-DMT and LSD at the same time, the acid and 4-PrO-DMT should both be noticeable before the methallylescaline assuming the MAL takes at least 30-45 minutes to come up. I wouldn't consider this mixture "chemical suicide", I think that's a little goofy as far as conceptualization of a combo like this goes.

Once you take the LSD, your tolerance is going to be super fucked, if you want to break up the dosing a little bit more I would say to go 2C-B -> MAL -> 4-PrO-DMT -> LSD, in that exact order to go from least tolerance inducing -> most tolerance inducing. As far as if any trip is interesting enough to hear about, the real determinant is both the set & setting that you put yourself in, and how chance allows the trip to unfold! I'd say to give it a shot, bring electrolytes and some bland snacks in case you want them (I always get something sweet, something spicy and something salty for when I'm tripping), and if it's interesting enough to write a report on then definitely get back to us!