Cracking up DPT, DMT, 2Cs? anything besides coke?

[paigethylamine]

Hi,

so I've observed crack being cooked in a glass with baking soda, cocaine and water on several occasions and even tried once however I failed; it's hard to do right. And up until the last few times that I saw it done I never remotely understood how it works. Perhaps I don't still, and am curious if there's any chance I could accomplish the same thing given other substances, particularly ones that like to be smoked.. has anybody ever tried this? Any success?

I've long since the last time I observed crack being made--established better understanding of chemicals, but am uncertain as to whether or not the chemical reaction with baking soda, and cocaine dissolved in hot water and cooled then filtered would work the same way with other hydrochloride salts given what I assume is a varying mole, and other physics concepts that I'm not entirely familiar with but am aware exist. Can anybody clarify?

I gather there's a bit of interest in smoking things like DMT and DPT for some people and from experience of vaporizing a crack route maybe too intense.. but then again maybe not, dosing would be impossible but maybe just taste it.

 

[Delsyd]

Most DMT you see will already be freebase.

You can turn DPT in freebase but in most cases it ends up being an oil.

Im not sure about the 2c's. Ive heard of them being active smoked, but also remember that ROA not being recomended.

 

[Solipsis]

Things like 2C's and stims like amphetamines/MDMA are caustic in freebase form, very much so making vaporizing pretty unhealthy. I would imagine that would give you a right punch in the lung.

DPT could be smoked as a salt, more of an option that with DMT (or so I've heard) but it's like Delsyd says. I made the freebase oil and it was a mess. There is a tek for it but if you scoop it off water after it's created it needs to dry and stuff before you can use it. It may be best to infuse it into a herb right away as long as you keep an eye on the way you will be dosing that. If it is not mixed well you could overdose on the DPT.

AMT appears to be good when smoked and it's a solid in freebase form as well as the salt. Again I think the salt is possible to smoke, like that of DPT... but the same is probably true that the salt will burn rather than vaporize (pyrolysis) making you lose a part of the material and making the smoke harsher and yet again more unhealthy.

 

[anima]

I've been told this oil-thing can be eased by putting the spoon (or the thing that is used to transform salt to base) in the freezer ... at least if the transformer uses ammonia instead of nasty baking soda
edit: in case of DPT ... don't know anything 'bout crackification of 2C's

 

[any major dude]

I've used baking soda to make crude bases with a couple things. It works pretty well with DPT, haven't made a "rock" yet, so to speak, ha, but i'd imagine it could be done. If you were wanting to make a rock you should start with the HCl, & not the freebase, because as the salt melts it will be converted to the freebase when it comes in contact with the baking soda. You will have some leftover NaCl when you're done though, so do be careful not to smoke that.

As far as 2c's go, they are active vaped, but only if you can hold the smoke in for long enough to get an effect. I used the same method mentioned above for DPT, and as soon as i quit inhaling i would immediately & involuntarily cough the smoke out. It felt pretty harsh on the lungs too. I've only attempted it the once, never had a desire to repeat that experiment.

 

[Solipsis]

Don't mind the NaCl dude,

the melting point is 801 °C / 1474 °F
and the boiling point 1413 °C / 2575 °F

And it doesn't react with oxygen either.