Could Zopiclone (Zolpidem/Ambien/Imovane) be used to abort a trip?

[mongchops]

I've searched online for this information, and short of a couple of throwaway speculative comments, it hasn't really been discussed.

I was wondering if Zopiclone could be used to abort a trip... specifically 2C compounds (as I have some 2C-B that I plan on taking soon) but let's bring LSD and others into the mix for the sake of discussion.

Benzos are well-known for being good "trip abort pills"; Zopiclone is a non-benzodiazepine hypnotic which shares a lot of similarities with benzos.

I have very little knowledge of the chemistry behind this, I'm just a curious soul who likes to know how to abort trips should the need arise (plus I have quite a lot of Zopiclone at the moment)

 

[FeltRoof]

Benzo's won't abort a trip, they will just calm you down.
Aborting a trip is quite dangerous anyway, as the person isn't able to integrate what they just experienced.
But the best thing for someone inexperienced who is panicking is to just take a valium, just the thought of taking it should calm them down.

 

[FeltRoof]

Thorazine aborts trips i've heard.

 

[Transform]

z-drugs don't have the same anxiolytic effects as benzos which would make them quite unsuitable IMHO.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I'm going to say no.

The last time I used a benzo to abort a trip, I actually needed 12 mg of alprazolam, when I could normally feel 0.5mg sober. I'm eternally grateful that I got to eat that much of it, otherwise I would have been stuck in psychedelic hell for much longer.

 

[skillet]

I find them just as good as benzos as anxiolytics, but they have some uh, weird, extra effects. So I don't know if they'd be good for this purpose - I imagine there's a possibility of serious craziness. Be careful if you try it, probably best to stick to 7.5mg.

 

[PandaGun]

A higher dose of z-hypnotics can/will cause delirious style hallucinations. And with a psych it may seriously bring that matter forward even at a lower dose of the z-hypnotic. I have used a z-hypnotic after a night of mdxx and really had a lot of people made up of clothes chatting to me, a lot more than otherwise. I did read somewhere that it can cause PCP style psychosis. Could be an experience though... < don't take my word for that!
This is noted with MDxx not any of the 2c family which are pretty different drugs. But I think you are looking at the serotonin workings with the z-hypnotic.
I would say if you do do it. Start with a 3.25 mg dose, perhaps half of that. Don't forget that taste in your mouth makes breathing/drinking/eating/smoking/living disgusting!! And perhaps wait for someone with better knowledge to answer your query (-=
It won't abort the trip but it might bring you down into a more pleasant head space. Oh yeah z-hypnos are a classic confusion creator so perhaps avoid doing that in public or in a situation where you have to look after your belongings for longer than 2 minutes at a time.

 

[Incunabula]

I don't think it's a good idea to use z-drugs to abort a trip. use them for falling asleep at the tail end of the trip is another matter though. They're fine for that.

 

[Solipsis]

Agreed with all, listen to pandagun.

 

[RobotRipping]

IME zopiclone can put me to sleep nicely after coming down from a trip but taking it during a trip will just add to the craziness, though it will calm you down. Z drugs aren't anxiolytics in particular but they really take away my anxiety/bad feelings really well, so for me it would definitely smooth out a trip.

i've used seroquel twice to kill a trip and it worked very well but felt like shit the next day. I don't mean kill it in the sense i was flipping out, just that i needed to get to bed before the trip wore off, so nearing the end i took seroquel and in 30 minutes i was completely at baseline.

 

[AlphaOdure]

I would think that zopiclone most certainly can--more so even than traditional 1,4-benzodiazepines like diazepam--since zopiclone displays barbiturate-like properties according to some sources. Keep in mind, there is a view in the psychedelic community that a trip must be "resolved by itself"--instead of being sedated & knocked out to kill a bad trip.


I am on high doses of an actual barbiturate, myself... prescribed legally--but i tend to agree w/ this view in the psychedelic community. A "trip" is literally an extreme psychological experience (or psychological "tirp".. if-you-will), & if it doesn't resolve itself naturally? I personally believe that you may risk long-term psychological damage.


I know this from my tripping days; back in the height of the "research chemical" days (before the first operation "Web Tryp" here in the US... could get anything from Iprocin/4-hydroxy-DiPT to 5-MethOxy-DMT from 5-MethOxy-aMT to 2c-c... oddly enough- i could tolerate very high doses of the notoriously-nauseating-drug 4--MethOxy-aMT.. but i couldn't tolerate 2c-c, or any psychedelic phenethylamine w/o vomiting.. although i still loved the 2c-x drugs, just not the first hour or so 8( (from the drugs i listed, of course I preferred tryptamines... although nothing beats good-ole' psilocybin/mushrooms; although Iprocin/4-Hydroxy-DiPT is a VERY close second)