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Could your children dial 999 in an emergency?

Got put on a first aid course years ago.. seem to have forgotten most of the CPR
 
Yeah I think everyone doing a first aid course couldn't hurt. I think everyone should at least know the basics of CPR. You can glean the basics of CPR simply by googling it. I did put a fair bit of work in a while ago about what to do in the event of an OD with a couple of the American mods but I forget where it is saved now.

That advert with Vinny Jones that was on TV not so long back was a good one regarding CPR in that the fundamentals are straightforward i.e. Push down hard on the centre of the chest with one hand over the other to the rhythm of "staying alive"....and forget about rescue breaths....leave that to the professionals. All you need to do is keep the heart pumping the blood around the body as there should still be enough oxygenated blood in the body that if you can keep it pumping to the brain the person should still avoid permanent brain injury should they be able to be brought round.

The one thing I find personally is that all the CPR demos in the world cant replicate the element of sheer terror that cones with giving CPR for real as if it has come to the point that CPR is necessary then the person is in effect dead and sometimes the urge to panic is overwhelming.
 
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I've never given this a thought really.. I'll be having a talk with my daughter about this. Not that I'm ever likely to overdose around them as I don't do drugs when with them but myself and their mother are both clumsy fools so you never know....

Good thread Englandz.. :)
 
englandgz74 said:
Yeah I think everyone doing a first aid course couldn't hurt. I think everyone should at least know the basics of CPR. You can glean the basics of CPR simply by googling it. I did put a fair bit of work in a while ago about what to do in the event of an OD with a couple of the American mods but I forget where it is saved now.

That advert with Vinny Jones that was on TV not so long back was a good one regarding CPR in that the fundamentals are straightforward i.e. Push down hard on the centre of the chest with one hand over the other to the rhythm of "staying alive"....and forget about rescue breaths....leave that to the professionals. All you need to do is keep the heart pumping the blood around the body as there should still be enough oxygenated blood in the body that if you can keep it pumping to the brain the person should still avoid permanent brain injury should they be able to be brought round.

The one thing I find personally is that all the CPR demos in the world cant replicate the element of sheer terror that cones with giving CPR for real as if it has come to the point that CPR is necessary then the person is in effect dead and sometimes the urge to panic is overwhelming.
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On the subject of CPR, when I nearly fatally ODd about 15 years ago I was lucky enough to have an older junky with me who managed to keep calm and perform CPR on me until the paramedics arrived and took over, instead of just fucking off or dumping me in the street as is common with the skag rats round here. He undoubtedly saved my life, though It still took a couple of goes with the defibrillator and an armful of naloxone to bring me round. Unfortunately, since I stopped doing gear we've just lost touch - as you do - but I owe him my life really. When I got out of hospital I went round to see him with a thank you card and a bottle of his favourite brandy, but he just shrugged his heroism off by saying 'oh it was no big deal I've done it before - I've seen loads of people OD, I'm just glad you made it.' Well thank fuck for old school junkies, that's what I say!
 
Wow that's an amazing story FUBAR you were very fortunate to have that guy around.

That also brings up the question of why isn't narcan (naloxone) freely available over here like I is in the US?. Its not expensive and with those nasal delivery systems, not difficult to administer either. Usually the US is more draconian with its policies towards drug users but in this case I seems that we are the backward ones over here.

I read somewhere that in many states in the US not only is naloxone offered to heroin users but also pain patients and even offered whenever opiates and benzos are prescribed together in any instance.

While i think there have been one off trials on various parts of the country, the routine distribution of naloxone at needle exchanges still seems a long way off even though the statistics show that it saves many lives and the costs of the drug are far outweighed by the costs of medical intervention further down the line. Even the police in certain states (New York IIRC) carry naloxone in order to treat anyone they may find who has OD'd (presumably so they can bring them round THEN arrest them).
 
Im sure I read somewhere that the reason that our services dont hand out Narcan is because they think users will be more tempted to push their regular dose so as to get higher, knowing they've a safety net... Stupid..8(

Ok, you may get the odd fool who does that but it's only going to be a tiny tiny percentage. Iirc it only works for a short while anyway doesn't it, right? So you still need paramedic/hospital ttestament after the narcan stops working and the opis start sending you back into overdose..

Think they'd just prefer us to die.. :\:(
 
Can i just say that i dont really think we could teach all preteens to call emergency services.... i mean ringing those numbers is supposedly a serious affair and the operators are adults that handle emergencies and ask questions... i doubt most 3yo children can answer where they live let alone what the emergency is. I imagine a lot of ambulances would be called due to children misbehaving or just misinterpreting symptoms.
a boy who cried wolf phenomena as well..

also, emergency services require info to prioritize cases ... it just seems a bit forced to me.
 
I dunno Kings, age certainly is a factor and for a three year old to do it is quite remarkable but I'm sure my 6 year old daughter would know help was needed if I was at the bottom of the stairs with blood coming out of my head and unresponsive... I'm pretty sure they can trace the call anyway so an address isn't necessary, I think that's right anyway...
 
true scotchy, im just saying that parents should be the ones deciding when and what to teach their preteens about emergency phone services.

Cool idea about getting the kids familiar with the police!
 
on another topic of this thread, while i do think everyone should have an idea about cpr, if you re ever going to perform ot you d better be doing a good job of it and make sure you have called for backup/help.

Its sadly quite easy to do a poor cpr and most onlookers feel a bit relaxed when they see someone doing something about the emergency...

Seen this supposed nurse guy do a one handed cpr on a poor fainted old lady once...

Just my 2c
 
Yeah if you're gonna learn CPR then I needs to be done properly and obviously call for help as well

I recommend people learn how to use the de-fibs that are in public places now. They're not as good as the life packs we carry as the only shockable rhythm they can be uses against is VF where ours can shock a sustained VT as well but wouldn't worry too much about that. Obviously these courses aren't cheap but if you ever get offered a place on a free one through work or something then definitely go on it. At best you could save someone's life and at worst you will learn some cool stuff :)
 
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