Misc Could some GBL be used to ease coming off short-term benzo use?

[Bromide]

Hey, so I've taken valium every 4-5 days for the past 3-4 weeks in 10mg doses each time, but have stopped taking any since about 5 days.

I'm currently experiencing some mild rebound anxiety and mild insomnia. I would not call it withdrawals because I went through benzo withdrawals years ago and this is nothing like it.

Would a small quantity of GBL help me in the evening? I was mostly worried that once the GBL wears off it would make the rebound anxiety even worse, since GBL seems to have a "rebound" effect after a few hours.

I was thinking if I limited myself to 2 or 3ml I would not experience any significant rebound the next day and it would help me a bit while this rebound from valium fades.

What do you think? Should I just stay sober?

 

[MagickalKat777]

I wouldn't do it. It seems to be quite bearable for you so far and GBL can trigger GABA-B dependency rather quickly.

Just let it run its course. For one, you weren't using it daily and two your doses weren't that high, it should be rather mellow. If you've been through benzo withdrawal before and survived then why risk shoving yourself into PAWS or worse, adding GABA-B addiction?

 

[Bromide]

Yeah, you're right. I'm not going to touch any drug until all of this is gone.

 

[xxxyyy]

i concur. it's not that GBL won't alleviate all the symptoms rather effectively but it truly is a nightmarish drug to get hooked on and for me it always was really hard to avoid that.
on the other hand if you indeed used it responsibly it alleviates the symptoms of benzo wd very effectively. last year i used it to come off a six-week benzo bender where i used a gram of etizolam on top of my usual script of alprazolam, oxazepam and triazolam and found that i couldn't handle the rebound cold turkey. i hadn't used daily but in very high quantities and felt like absolute dogshit when i decided it was high time to give it a rest. but in order to not get hooked on the GBL i needed to adhere to a strict dosing schedule which was really difficult for me. but you're far away from my level of usage so i'd say the best course of action is to wait this out on its own.

 

[black53]

Actually tried it once after a long etizolam binge except with ghb. Worked great, but I only used it for sleep (insomnia was my main problem).

 

[muie]

In my experience I wouldn't try GHB for coming down/withdrawling unless it's used 1-2 times at most per week.

The most trusted and the medical standard for treating benzo addiction is the barbiturate phenobarbital specifically b/c of it's great anti-seizure potential and its very long duration. On it's own phenobarbital is really nothing close to euphoric when compared to other barbs like amobarb or even butabital but when used in medicine it has long been used as an anti spasmatic although more recently benzos have replaced it's role for this, its still used in many 3rd world countries in Europe and elsewhere not only for this purpose but for also for relaxation in pills of 30mg or 100mg pills for sleep (many people use this barbiturate alone instead of benzos).

The way one would use this is by substition of phenobarbital instead of benzos, ajusting the dose according to
1. Duration - lenght of your benzo habbit (personally I've been on 4mg clonazepam since 2004)
2. Potency - stenght of your benzo habbit (2mg/day-5mg/day)

Do some research b/c it's the best way to wean of a seious habbit, if your habbit is not that long don't bother since a slow taper will be enough.

This medication should be taken strictly to prevent seizure rather than for sedation is used at all. You won't want to be addicted to barbs - it's like benzos times 10.