Heroin Could I be allergic to heroin........

[BlueHues]

Ohhh boy! lol

We can't discuss prices, but .1 a bag is definitely not necessarily true, at all!

And East Coast is pretty damn good, but that varies too....

 

[bdomihizayka]

yerppp.....and not necesarily.... west coast is tar, east coast is powder; if i lived in california, id be a IVer because you cannot really effectively snort tar heroin like you can the powdered heroin....

 

[down508]

Leave out the prices on here. The price varies, but in most east coast cites besides boston and most of new hampshire a bag is around .1, lots of dealers eyeball. In boston and surrounding cities like worcester heroin is sold n 10 gram fingers, a street bag is .5, comes double bagged in sandwhich bag corners.

And east coast dope is generally the highest purity in the country, and higher its been in 40 years. In comparison black tar heroin isnt even heroin in the strictest sense of the word, its mainly 6-mam which is an active metabolite of diacetylmorphine.

 

[Obiez]

Sorry about that, will use PM to ask sensitive questions next time.

Anyhow to the OP, say hello to your first withdrawl and be happy you ain't in it deep. You can probably shake off the symptoms in a few weeks.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Sorry about that, will use PM to ask sensitive questions next time.

Just don't make them too sensitive.. hah. You can still break the rules via PM'ing... but, I know you'd never do that!

 

[Obiez]

I'm just confused with the slang around your parts because over here we strictly deal with grams. I mean you can buy half of one but you generally get 0.4 as half a gram and about .8 as a gram unless your dealer likes you and comes over to measure the shit in front of you.

Double bagged, always the case unless you know a guy

 

[BlueHues]

Leave out the prices on here. The price varies, but in most east coast cites besides boston and most of new hampshire a bag is around .1, lots of dealers eyeball. In boston and surrounding cities like worcester heroin is sold n 10 gram fingers, a street bag is .5, comes double bagged in sandwhich bag corners.

And east coast dope is generally the highest purity in the country, and higher its been in 40 years. In comparison black tar heroin isnt even heroin in the strictest sense of the word, its mainly 6-mam which is an active metabolite of diacetylmorphine.

I have nothing personally against you, and I have no desire to start a fight....

However, you're pretty much wrong on all counts in your statements.....

Heroin is the shittiest it's been in ages in the Northeast overall, cheaper by volume is about it! You can google the whole 90 percent purity thing and that info is fucking ancient! That's 90s propaganda!

As far as bundles weighing out to a gram? the only place thats been true in 20 years is NYC and certain places in Jersey....If that were true that would mean 50 bags, a brick, would weight out 5 grams, which I've never even seen a brick top out at 2.5 Gs! A brick 5 grams?! No way!!

Your price listing is WAY off too, alhough we don't allow that!

I'm guessing you're 18-21 yrs old and weren't even around for the days when bundles were prevalent in NE!

AND furthermore, a lot of tar that you get in west coast cities, is purer and cheaper than ECP!

So, pretty much wrong on all counts!!
Sorry!
When the ECP powder was super pure, the bags in bundles was maybe .03, maybe sometimes higher maybe reaching .1 if you were luck, especially in certain parts of Brooklyn, LES of Manhattan, Newark and MAYBE sometimes parts of New England.....

To say that purity is at it's highest now?! when everyone is selling what's called raw in grams?! Not true at all!!

Experienced users were dropping from .2 in the late 90s early 2000s and .5s and grams were unheard of even if you were a dealer!!!

Most of the bundles and bricks were mass produced and taped to prevent tampering...and that's how legendary stamps came to be...It wasn't some guy bagging up ounces in stamp bags...It was mass produced

 

[Alex1078]

I am allergic to oxy. After a pro longed binge I can suffer from skin rash.

 

[rhun]

Yupp. When you start using heroin or any other opiate your body makes you throw up, once you get passed that stage you are getting close to addiction, once you are addicted the vomiting stops because the body does not recognize it as a poison anymore, and in fact begins to crave it. Once your body craves it you are an addict, and there is no going back to the first rush you felt. Not ever. You can be 10 years clean and not get the same first time rush again.

This post is not correct. I don't know anyone who has thrown up after using heroin or opiates. I never have either. Opiates are not poison so your body would never recognize them as poison. In fact, once inside your body opiates are basically the same as the endorphins your own body produces. You need to educate yourself if you're going to post theories like that.

OP, even if you just use once or twice a week after a year of high doses you can become physically dependent. And if you start using heroin, which wears off quickly and produces strong cravings, your body is going to become even more physically dependent and much more quickly.

 

[BlueHues]

This post is not correct. I don't know anyone who has thrown up after using heroin or opiates. I never have either. Opiates are not poison so your body would never recognize them as poison. In fact, once inside your body opiates are basically the same as the endorphins your own body produces. You need to educate yourself if you're going to post theories like that.

OP, even if you just use once or twice a week after a year of high doses you can become physically dependent. And if you start using heroin, which wears off quickly and produces strong cravings, your body is going to become even more physically dependent and much more quickly.

I've messed around with woodworking a couple times, but I don't go onto websites claiming to be a master tradesmen!

*You, as in, the person I just quoted are incredibly arrogant, misinformed, naive and just outright wrong in every fucking way imaginable!

"Heroin never made me or my friends throw up bro! 420 dude!"

No idea what you're talking about! Pure and simple!

Come back when you're not 12 years old and come talk to me! Hopefully you havent ruined your life with opiates by then!

 

[Obiez]

This post is not correct. I don't know anyone who has thrown up after using heroin or opiates. I never have either. Opiates are not poison so your body would never recognize them as poison. In fact, once inside your body opiates are basically the same as the endorphins your own body produces. You need to educate yourself if you're going to post theories like that.

Right, the first time I let it go, now here's me when you start telling me shit I know is fact:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61664 thats 1
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/550345-Does-Heroin-make-you-vomit-too 2
http://www.google.com/search?q=hero...sugexp=chrome,mod=15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 here's the whole fucking google search.

Now, what is the nutrition factor to heroin? 0, what are the medical benefits of heroin 1, what happens if you take too much, you die? Yeah that means it is poisonous for people after a certain amount.

In fact, once inside your body opiates are basically the same as the endorphins your own body produces. You need to educate yourself if you're going to post theories like that.

No, your dopamine receptors start producing endorphines, the opiates don't magically turn into endorphines, the substance makes your brain produce more endorphines. You inject heroin, you have heroin in your body, it doesn't magically synthesize into a human biological liquid. Educate myself?

 

[BlueHues]

^In fact, almost everyone vomits when they first try heroin! Why do I care? I don't know...it just gets frustrating!

 

[rhun]

Right, the first time I let it go, now here's me when you start telling me shit I know is fact:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61664 thats 1
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/550345-Does-Heroin-make-you-vomit-too 2
http://www.google.com/search?q=hero...sugexp=chrome,mod=15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 here's the whole fucking google search.

Now, what is the nutrition factor to heroin? 0, what are the medical benefits of heroin 1, what happens if you take too much, you die? Yeah that means it is poisonous for people after a certain amount.

No, your dopamine receptors start producing endorphines, the opiates don't magically turn into endorphines, the substance makes your brain produce more endorphines. You inject heroin, you have heroin in your body, it doesn't magically synthesize into a human biological liquid. Educate myself?

LOL. Did I say NO ONE vomits? No. But it is completely incorrect to say that everyone vomits and doesn't stop vomiting until they are addicted.

SECONDLY, Opiates create artificial endorphins in the brain. I never said they "magically appeared." It's silly to twist peoples' words in BL when it's all there on the forum for everyone to see.
Endorphins are, quite literally, = "ENDOGENOUS MORPHINE." They're endogenous opioid peptides that, when released, produce analgesia and a sense of well being.. if that sounds familiar, it's because opiates do the same thing. Your brain can't even tell the difference between the two. So to say that something your body thinks is its own endorphins it also considers "poison" is completely absurd. The reason opiate addiction is so hard to break for many, including myself, is because it makes people feel good, not like they've been poisoned. And for people like myself and my father, who have endorphin deficiencies, opiates are a medication.

So yes, please do educate yourself. You were incorrect in your other thread as well, but you weren't rude in this one so I was pretty polite. No need to get your panties in a bunch.

Edit: I would also like to add that I never once suggested that anyone should take heroin or that it's healthy for you.. some of the cuts people add to heroin are very bad for you and dope can be extremely dirty from unsanitary conditions. That's why street heroin is going to have more risks than medical grade. And of course IV use has its own set of risks. But heroin is also an opiate, so the above is true.

 

[down508]

I have nothing personally against you, and I have no desire to start a fight....

However, you're pretty much wrong on all counts in your statements.....

Heroin is the shittiest it's been in ages in the Northeast overall, cheaper by volume is about it! You can google the whole 90 percent purity thing and that info is fucking ancient! That's 90s propaganda!

As far as bundles weighing out to a gram? the only place thats been true in 20 years is NYC and certain places in Jersey....If that were true that would mean 50 bags, a brick, would weight out 5 grams, which I've never even seen a brick top out at 2.5 Gs! A brick 5 grams?! No way!!

Your price listing is WAY off too, alhough we don't allow that!

I'm guessing you're 18-21 yrs old and weren't even around for the days when bundles were prevalent in NE!

AND furthermore, a lot of tar that you get in west coast cities, is purer and cheaper than ECP!

So, pretty much wrong on all counts!!
Sorry!
When the ECP powder was super pure, the bags in bundles was maybe .03, maybe sometimes higher maybe reaching .1 if you were luck, especially in certain parts of Brooklyn, LES of Manhattan, Newark and MAYBE sometimes parts of New England.....

To say that purity is at it's highest now?! when everyone is selling what's called raw in grams?! Not true at all!!

Experienced users were dropping from .2 in the late 90s early 2000s and .5s and grams were unheard of even if you were a dealer!!!

Most of the bundles and bricks were mass produced and taped to prevent tampering...and that's how legendary stamps came to be...It wasn't some guy bagging up ounces in stamp bags...It was mass produced

I think you may be confused about what exactly I wrote. you said "your price listing is way off, even though we don't allow that" when did I mention price, besides to tell someone not to post prices? I said a bag is around .1, and most dealers eyeball, does that translate to "every dealer on the east coast is selling exactly .1 gram bags"? if you think so then I'm sorry about your reading comprehension abilities. if your dealers are selling you .05 gram bags of low purity gear I suggest you find new connects.

 

[Obiez]

LOL. Did I say NO ONE vomits? No. But it is completely incorrect to say that everyone vomits and doesn't stop vomiting until they are addicted.

SECONDLY, Opiates create artificial endorphins in the brain.
Endorphins are, quite literally, = "ENDOGENOUS MORPHINE." They're endogenous opioid peptides that, when released, produce analgesia and a sense of well being.. if that sounds familiar, it's because opiates do the same thing. Your brain can't even tell the difference between the two. So to say that something your body thinks is its own endorphins it also considers "poison" is completely absurd. The reason opiate addiction is so hard to break for many, including myself, is because it makes people feel good, not like they've been poisoned. And for people like myself and my father, who have endorphin deficiencies, opiates are a medication.

So yes, please do educate yourself. You were incorrect in your other thread as well, but you weren't rude in this one so I was pretty polite. No need to get your panties in a bunch.

Your stupidity is beyond you.

Did I say everyone vomits or was I using a very generalized equation to provide some clarity?
Do you understand that you said SECONDLY, Opiates create artificial endorphins in the brain. key word being FUCKING ARTIFICIAL.
Can you overdose from a very small amount if not used to it? Yes. Poison. for people like you, it's like anti venom when a snake bites you, for everyone else it is a sensory overload. Your brain can't tell the fucking difference between ANYTHING created by an exterior stimulous provided it stimulates the production something the body already makes. Why am I even bothering with you though,, I bet you don't even know what position oxygen is in the periodic table.

But even that aside:
Besides creating endorphines, it supresses your CNS, exactly like POISON

"Because heroin suppresses the central nervous system, the user experiences "cloudy" mental function. Users will begin to breathe at a slower rate "

Now go learn how to do your research.

And don't bother replying to anything I say as I will not be seeing it.

 

[BlueHues]

I think you may be confused about what exactly I wrote. you said "your price listing is way off, even though we don't allow that" when did I mention price, besides to tell someone not to post prices? I said a bag is around .1, and most dealers eyeball, does that translate to "every dealer on the east coast is selling exactly .1 gram bags"? if you think so then I'm sorry about your reading comprehension abilities. if your dealers are selling you .05 gram bags of low purity gear I suggest you find new connects.

Ya know dude, somebody mentioned price per bag and I coulda swore it was you, but mysteriously that message dissappereared!

As far as low quality "gear" goes?

Yeah, I'll find a new connection for my "gear"!

Because in the 16 years I've fucked with heroin on the east coast, it's always called gear!

Wait, is this Russell Brand I'm talking to?

And yeah, if you had any experience with "bundles" in New england which is how they came up until 5-6 years ago, they were a hell of a lot less than point one, and a brick(50 bags) only cost 1 1/2 times the amount of a gram, to give you an idea.....

Of course, go back to '97, when I first started using, a brick cost 2 1/2 times what a gram cost in new england now, and you'd still only dump out 2 gs out of a brick....

NYC always has had more expensive bundles, but they were always much bigger AND pricier!

Jerz was more like NE in most towns!

So, I'll go look for some better "gear" mate! Tally-ho!

 

[rhun]

Your quote is in my post, you definitely falsely make a blanket statement that people vomit when really, only some people vomit.
If you take too much of anything you're going to have problems. Opiates are potent in small amounts unless you have a tolerance.
Under your definition, everything is poison practically. I'm sure out of all all the poisons out there that are actually classified as poison not all of them act like heroin on the CNS system.

Oh boo hoo, guess I hurt your feelings. Go cry about it.
You shouldn't have said something ridiculous then instead of just saying you should have worded it differently you tried to create an entire flawed argument around it.