Dissociatives Coping with the k-hole

[ErgotFiend]

Haven't done K. Closest thing I've had are two moderate oral DXM experiences when I was a teen. Those were very euphoric. I wanna k-hole, but I don't want to work my way up to it. I'm worried that k will feel too good. I am intrigued by the k-hole experience but worry that in working my way up I could get hooked on the stuff. I hear that the lower doses feel amazing. Ideally, I could limit myself to just the psychedelic k-holes and only once every few months until I run out of K and presumably take a year off. I have a lot of experience with DMT, a tiny bit of experience with 5-meo, and a moderate amount with Salvia. As such, I think if I take the trip seriously, and meditate leading up to it, I could have something interesting, but not traumatic. In my experience, with salvia, you gotta laugh with the trip and refuse the convenience of negativity; with DMT, you gotta stay strong, but surrender (paradoxical a bit I know), with 5-meo.... uhhh... still figuring that out.


What is the psychological strategy for high dose ketamine? Do I give in? Do I prepare for the worst and expect the best? Do I laugh at the absurdity of the whole thing? I honestly have zero idea.

What strategy works for y'all?

Or.. am I being stupid and naive?

: )

 

[Hexagon Sun]

Salvia is the most fucked/dangerous of the ones that you mention. 5-meo is one of the most difficult psychs out there. If you can cope with them, k and k holes would be a hike in the park compared.

Just start low with k before trying a medium and a k-hole dose, better in different days, to taste waters. K can be addictive, but not near as addictive as coca or opioids, so I wouldnt bother that much. Just do it with common sense and you will be ok.

Also, there´s better dissos than k, cheaper, more pontent and longer lasting, DMXE and 2-fck would be perfect to taste the waters. Also dck, wich is way more similar to K, quite holey, but more potent and longer lasting (so cheaper). Also qualitatively more interesting if you ask me, but to start with dissos, more complicated as well (like K), so I would start with the fisrt 2 ones that I mention

Good self know experiences and report back your findings, whatever you do

 

[ErgotFiend]

Salvia is the most fucked/dangerous of the ones that you mention. 5-meo is one of the most difficult psychs out there. If you can cope with them, k and k holes would be a hike in the park compared.

Just start low with k before trying a medium and a k-hole dose, better in different days, to taste waters. K can be addictive, but not near as addictive as coca or opioids, so I wouldnt bother that much. Just do it with common sense and you will be ok.

Also, there´s better dissos than k, cheaper, more pontent and longer lasting, DMXE and 2-fck would be perfect to taste the waters. Also dck, wich is way more similar to K, quite holey, but more potent and longer lasting (so cheaper). Also qualitatively more interesting if you ask me, but to start with dissos, more complicated as well (like K), so I would start with the fisrt 2 ones that I mention

Good self know experiences and report back your findings, whatever you do

Thank you for the advice. I am very curious about dck and hope to try it someday. I suppose that overall dck and mxe sound a bit more interesting than ketamine, but I found ketamine easier to get my hands on. But... I probably just didn't look hard enough (and honestly forgot that I had already been told once before that dck was a winner). When I restock my stash I will prioritize dck over regular ketamine.

 

[ErgotFiend]

I swear there was another helpful reply to this, that I meant to thank but kept forgetting to log in and do so… Mandela effect for real

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Thank you for the advice. I am very curious about dck and hope to try it someday. I suppose that overall dck and mxe sound a bit more interesting than ketamine, but I found ketamine easier to get my hands on. But... I probably just didn't look hard enough (and honestly forgot that I had already been told once before that dck was a winner). When I restock my stash I will prioritize dck over regular ketamine.

They might sound more interesting but imo are equals.
And Ketamine and N2O are the standard,
i measure the rest with that came after.

Might you wanna get a little tease of dissociation, a balloon of N2O.
Is a good first one to try, sitting down !
Both share a unique feature other Dissociative s i tried miss.
No after/ stimulation. So you can sleep fine.

DCK, most like K has a different character, dMXE more.
And both will keep me awake after. Euphoria wise K and N2O top.
i Like those two, but for a hole Ketamine till now was the best.
Sounds sexy.

And MXE so different, could even be used in medicine afaic.
On MXE you can hole walking. Alien landscape but free of any terror.
Whole different state conscious holing, did that by mistake btw.