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Convincing someone to end a messed up relationship

bennyZA

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I don't know how else to title this, but I'm trying to think if it is okay to try and get my brother to split with his GF. It is the least healthy relationship I've ever seen. My bro and his gf have been going out for 4 years now and not once during that relationship have they ever been happy with each other. For both of them this is the first serious relationship they've had and I think neither of them knows how to break it off and neither of them wants to have to deal with what comes next.

I can't even begin to explain how fucked up their relationship is. They hate each other, have for years. They yell and scream at each other all time. All the issues my brother has had in the past are magnified 1000x. I've never seen my brother so unhappy and so mentally unhealthy. He's always had anger issues, but it has recently become rage issues. He will fly off the handle and go into this blind rage over the most trivial shit, and it usually involves her. Both of them have anger issues and since neither of them likes the other's lifestyle, they scream at each other ALL THE TIME. I'm talking about massive fights every hour usually over nothing more than shit the most ridiculously trivial issues as. Some of the most intense fights of theirs:S imply changing the song while in the car, there was a horrendous fight over his gf not asking him if he wanted a glass of water when she got up to get one, moving something out of the way so the other can see the TV, turning music down, taking too long to get somewhere in the car (which is no one's fault at all, it's just traffic, as if that's my bro's fault), the list goes on.

My brother has even said horrible shit about her. He always talks about wanting to fuck other chicks, how she is packing on weight (which she really is) and her being super fucking lazy and doing nothing with her life. She's been taking 1 class a semester for over 6 years and there is still no end in sight for her education, and my brother is getting really sick and tired of supporting her financially. She doesn't have a job, she doesn't clean the house, do their laundry, nada. I know it's not her job, but when someone is supporting you 100% the favor needs to be returned.

It's not like she brings anything to the table either. She is not attractive at all, she is putting on lots of weight, she is angry, she is unbelievably sensitive, she is mean, she is so stupid, and she barely puts out. My brother acknowledges all of this, btw. She doesn't even like his lifestyle. He likes talking about politics, science, video games... everything she hates talking about. She yells at him when he wants to talk about the stuff he is interested. She is also the stupidest person I've ever met and whenever my bro and I talk about intelligent subjects, she flips out and cries, thinking we are trying to make her feel stupid. She didn't know that whales were mammals until she was 25, she didn't realize a square was a type of rectangle till she was 24, she didn't know who the US fought in the revolutionary war, or why we fought. The worst, and I kid you not, was when she learned the other day that a human is a type of animal. She thought they were in their own category...

This relationship is killing both of them so why don't they break up? Well, according to my brother, he wouldn't know what to do with his apt or his dog they "share" and that he doesn't want to hurt her by breaking up. She is so sensitive about everything that if he broke up with her he's worried she might do something terrible, like kill herself. I don't know what he's thinking. I think he's just too lazy, he doesn't want to have to actually deal with the process itself...

So how do I convince him he needs to split with her. He confides in me, but if I make any comments or point anything out his flips the fuck out. He broke up with her for 1 day 2 years ago and everyone finally got a chance to speak their mind. He got back together with her the next day and stopped talking to his friends for saying all that shit about his gf, even though he acknowledged everything everyone said the day before.

I've always thought that it is never my place to interfere with someone else's relationship, but I've had enough with this bullshit. This relationship has pretty much made my brother miserable for the last 4 years. I don't know how to bring it up, what to say, or how to go about this. Should I just leave it alone forever and watch my brother slip further and further into depression, or do I man up and say something regardless of the consequences to me? If you do think I should say something, what do you think i should say or what do you think I should do?
 
Don't know what to say other than accept her and just be happy for your brother! I'm probably on your brother's side of things. My sis tries to give me advice, and while I love her to death and I know she does it out of love, she doesn't know my partners. She tells me to break it off all the time as soon as I give a hint that things aren't perfect. But things aren't perfect for anyone, and I gotta make my own mistakes and work through issues.

Can't make anyone do anything they don't want, and if you push it, all you will do is push away your brother. My sister did that to me, and now I just don't talk to her anymore.

Best to just be happy for him, console him when he's down, and be nice to her. He will figure things out with time. But I can tell ya there is nothing worse than someone telling you that you're with the wrong "guy" when that person hasn't even met said "guy." Same goes for your brother. You don't really know her like he does.
 
accept her and just be happy for your brother!

How can I be happy for him to be with a person he hates who also makes him miserable. He's not even happy for himself. I definitley could never accept her either, she has been absolutely horrible with me and my family.

I also can't even console him when he's down cause he's always down, that's the problem. I hear him talk about her in horrible ways all the time, but if I agree with what he says he gets pissed, I don't get it. Honestly, it's not even that much about her, it's about how awful they are for each other. It's not like my bro's a good match for her either.

Same goes for your brother. You don't really know her like he does.

After 4 years of hanging out on a regular basis and 2 years being next door neighbors I know her pretty well and it's not like my bro says anything positive about her either way, so I can't really see what she has to offer.

I think the only reason she stays with my brother is because he supports her financially 100%. She doesn't like my brother either, btw. My brother's just too lazy to deal with breaking up and she just wants his money.
 
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that is really awkward for you Benny, and I feel for you.
The problem is, noone can tell what another person thinks in their mind of minds.
I particularly relate to your problem as a similar thing was happening with my brother,... violent fights, constant unhappiness,
You have to understand though, the the fault is two sided, and one or two of them are acting as "enablers" at different times. Unless this is stopped, they will continue as they are.
I tried constantly to convince my brother to dismount the relationship, and they even did for a short while, but he went back. When I asked why, he said, "even with all the shit we went though, I still love her"
I would have run like fuck and hanged my name. :P

Anyway, eventually he found his own way out, and I believe he was just out of stuff to give, and she still wanted more, so he gave all he had left.

Do I blame her? not fully, he did it of his own volition and (probably ) she didn't expect him to.

However the question most relevant to the OP's problem is "could I have prevented him from taking his life to solve his issues?" and my answer is "probably not" Everyone will do shit for whatever fucked u reason, and other than actually being with them 24/7, there is little you can do, I believe
 
he makes his own choices

tell him you are not going to listen to him moan if he will do nothing to change his problems.

i certainly would stop listening and paying attention to him. he needs to grow up
 
^ yep.

I'd say if this is really bothering you so much, sit him down one day when you're both calm and reasonably sober and lay out your concerns. Tell him you worry about his future and wellbeing, that he's still young and you want to see him happy so you wonder if this is making him happy, and what he wants in life. Does he see himself bringing up children with her? Does he think he will cheat soon? Ask him to listen calmly, and be diplomatic. Tell him that if they stay together you'll be always supportive of him, and his best man if they get married, but you want to say what you think one and only time, and that you'll never repeat it again.

After that you will have to respect his choices. But you also have a right to tell him you will no longer listen to him complain about the relationship because you've had enough and you find it difficult to hear. After all, you've got sooooo many other things you could be talking about when you hang out (say politics, science, video games and other intelligent stuff)...

Remember though to remind him you'll always be his brother and stick by his side even if you don't always agree with his choices and stand by your word. If they stay together, don't say another disapproving word again.
 
he makes his own choices

tell him you are not going to listen to him moan if he will do nothing to change his problems.

i certainly would stop listening and paying attention to him. he needs to grow up

Took the words out of my mouth.
 
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