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Conversion To Vegan?

sexyanon2

sexyanon2

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Quick. I just read that dioxins cause cancer. So, fuck anything non-vegan.

Actually, I've just wanted to adopt a vegan diet. So is there any website that *you* would recommend?

Thanks. :)
 
One thing I will say is I found an abrupt switch easiest, i.e. not slowly taking meat and dairy out of my diet but just suddenly ceasing to eat them altogther.

I have been both vegan and vegetarian.

I became vegan because I was in boarding school and the dairy etc was not organic so I wouldn't touch it. Same thing with the meat and poultry. This in a way made it easy -- I didn' t have the option of eating those foods.

I was vegan for 3 months and for me it was fine in terms of food choices. I did grow up without milk (only had butter and cheese) and vegetarian so I think that helps. I love vegetables and carbs so I just stuck to those. Unfortunately I don't like most beans or nuts and there were not good soy options so I became protein deficient and started losing alot of hair which made me start eating meat again.

Enough rambling from me. :D I just say, jump into it.
 
i was raised vegetarian ! I was a vegan as an adult . I would have a little fish or dairy every few years to be on the safe side but was very strict otherwise, then at the age of, I think 38 I had a cold which would NOT go away . now I eat chicken , fish, and yougurt ( and NO other dairy ) and I have lost about a dozen health problems since then , Just a word from an anti vegan . I feel healthy and by the way eating a lot of soy causes thyroid problems It was in all the news last year did you see? the reason ancient japanese never HAD thyroid problems is b/c in japan people dont sit down and make a meal of a big tofu cake, its always just a side dish and not even daily .
 
I should also add I lived in a vegetarian coop for 2 years in college, which had a handful of vegans living in it as well. Crews of 3-4 people would take turns every night cooking for all 50 of us. Courteous crews would make sure that for every dairy dish that was made there was a vegan equivalent or option -- I always made sure of this and it was not very difficult.

I also developed several recipes for things like cookies (without margarine), creamy soups, matzoh ball soup etc that were vegan. Sometimes it took a little experimentation but it usually wasn't that hard to come up with tastey things.

All around I think being vegan isn't that difficult if you are willing to put in a bit of effort.
 
I agree about throwing yourself in. For me, if I continue to eat any certain way Ill end up going back to it full time. I find myself doing that with "occasionally" letting myself eat beef. It ends up just becoming the norm again.
 
saying your a vegan, then eating meat the next month, is like me quitting dope for, then using next week, and saying im not an addict. which isn't true. so you attempted to live a vegan lifestyle and it didnt work... TRUE VEGANS REPRAZENT.
 
sexyanon2 said:
Quick. I just read that dioxins cause cancer. So, fuck anything non-vegan.
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This is misleading. Dioxins are industrial pollutants, that work through the food chain and tend to be concentrated towards the top of the food chain. However, even a vegan diet will have a small amount of dioxin, dioxin is in the air and soil, and it is generally bad for the environment. The only way to meaningfully solve the problem is push for limitations of industries that produce it, most importantly the paper production industry.

The worst thing you can possibly eat in terms of dioxin content is fish, especially freshwater ones. Other meats have a much lower dioxin content. Plants have even less, but it is still there.

Of course, keep in mind that the EPA's draft "reassessment" of the health effects of dioxin estimated that the lifetime risk of getting cancer from dioxin exposure is between one in 1,000 and one in 10,000. And that number is simply reduced, not eliminated, by adopting a vegan diet.

In any case, if you want to go vegan, good for you. This is just for anyone else who is reading your post and is curious about dioxins.

(most of my info came from here: http://www.ejnet.org/dioxin/ )
 
I went to the link you went to.

Yes, you might get a little bit of dioxin. But you'll get a lot less on a vegan diet.

Even if they are industrial pollutants, that doesn't change the fact that a vegan diet will expose you to a lot less dioxins than other foods.
 
>>saying your a vegan, then eating meat the next month, is like me quitting dope for, then using next week, and saying im not an addict. which isn't true. so you attempted to live a vegan lifestyle and it didnt work... TRUE VEGANS REPRAZENT.>>

not all true vegans are quite this absolutist. I would still say that those who cut out the vast majoirity of animal products are doing a great deal of good. I would also say that it doesn't make much sense to go vegan solely out of health concerns.

ebola
 
Get lots of legume and nutty protein, man. Odwalla bars, clif bars, soy/almond/rice milk, yo jigga.

Oh, and disregard the vegan police. They're stupid like closeminded straight-edgers.

-- "I would also say that it doesn't make much sense to go vegan solely out of health concerns."
I would have to disagree. The first step to caring about others (such as the animals) is to care about yourself, and adopting a diet that benefits you healthily is a great first step.
 
for particular body types it may be beneficial to consume more animal based foods simply because of the warming energy they provide. I have recently started reintroducing small amounts of meat in my long-term meat-free diet and am finding it help energetically. I somehow feel stronger. Even though I ate fish fairly regularly (4-6 times a month) during my mostly meat free period of 6 years).
 
ebola! said:
>>saying your a vegan, then eating meat the next month, is like me quitting dope for, then using next week, and saying im not an addict. which isn't true. so you attempted to live a vegan lifestyle and it didnt work... TRUE VEGANS REPRAZENT.>>

not all true vegans are quite this absolutist. I would still say that those who cut out the vast majoirity of animal products are doing a great deal of good. I would also say that it doesn't make much sense to go vegan solely out of health concerns.

ebola
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exactly. I cant stand the black and white, all or nothing approach. Even if you are only vegan every other week, you are gonna be that much healthier and have that many less animals die for you, etc.
 
>>Why not?>>

Oh...Just because many fish are pretty damn healthy for you in ways that most plant foods are not (barring mercury content).

ebola
 
^^ Agreed. The Japanese lived amazingly healthy lives on local fish and soy. The only problem I personally have with eating fish is that they're mass netted, thus depressurized quicker than they can take it, resulting in their eyes exploding and nasty asphyxiation. Not a particularly fun way to go.. oh, and of course the mercury. Blah.
 
Aye, I was thinking that as well ebola.

But for protein, calcium, B12, and iron (?), how are these requirements met as meats have been thrown out of the diet? I can only think of soy products such as milk, walnuts, and tofu. Hmm.
 
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