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Continuous ketamine IV

chemicalvibrations said:
You can't iv ketamine. nope. You can IM it or snort or eat or absorb rectally b ut you can iv it. It'ss a cat tranquilizer. research it if you want don't take my word for it cause you don't know me from a hole in the ground. Just lookin out for the friendly stranger thats all.
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no shit, you are an idiot man. you keep jumping onto threads saying "i know better, you can't do this" blah blah. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I have a vial of Ketalar and it says for IM/IV administration. Get a clue!
 
You can't iv ketamine. nope. You can IM it or snort or eat or absorb rectally b ut you can iv it. It'ss a cat tranquilizer. research it if you want don't take my word for it cause you don't know me from a hole in the ground. Just lookin out for the friendly stranger thats all.
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A friendlier stranger would check their facts brfore touting them as gospel on an 'open to all' messageboard

Couldn't agree more with advice from any internet source though than the bit highlighted in bold type
 
Another thing Im wondering, is the effects of 500mg IVed from a 5ml syringe. All these are becoming very real possibilities for me to attempt in the future.
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I think death might be a possibility of 500mg!? IVed in a single blast. In clinical settings, ketamine is injected quite slowly--a super rapid space-slam like that could cause one to go into shock. In any event, I don't think IVing anything is ever a good idea, and it is not something I would ever try, but I have quite the fear of needles.
 
its been about 6 or 8 years since i bannged K

There is a book called K space or something, which is written by a timithoy leary of Special K

holy shit for a anesthetic, this shit is so strong ... I had a girlfriend who worked at a vet clinic and would close shop up..

she would takes rigs from work and have full amounts of K in them....

. . after growing up, i think that it was a pretty stupid thing to experiment with .!!!

one thing for sure, when slammed this shit,, i would fall backwards and loose vision, BLACK OUT in to millions of Fractals .. for about 20 seconds

its a shitty way to come down too

talk about a dissociative
 
if you want the tim leary of ketamine look no further then John C Lilly.

Read about ECCO then bang ~80mg of ketamine and hold on. (I found 80mg to be my special spot, you may differ)
 
http://www.rsdfoundation.org/en/Ketamine_Treatment.html#Videos

we can thank ECCO and the power of ketamine for me finding this.

more stuff is posted in teh big and dandy ketamine thread but here is some basics.
Ketamine Treatment Protocol

The ketamine infusion treatment protocol consists of conscious sedation with ketamine over a 2-hour period. Typically, pretreatment with 0.2 mg of glycopyrolate IV is the only other drug necessary.



A ketamine drip is administered at 100 mg / hour supplemented with 5-40 mg IV bolus injections of ketamine. An average adult will require a total of 400-600 mg of ketamine over a two hour period in order to maintain an adequate depth of conscious sedation. Midazolam is usually not necessary. Bad dreams (hallucinations) can occur in patients with RSD during the 2-hour ketamine infusion.

Some patients will obtain relief of pain at a lower infusion rate of ketamine (10-30 mg/hour)

Typically, the infusion rate in an adult for a 2-hour ketamine infusion is 100 mg / hour. It is important to recognize that the elimination half-life for ketamine is 3-5 hours. Accordingly, it may take 4 half-lives (at least 12 hours) to reach a steady-state (or peak) blood level. [5] Therefore, initial titration with loading (bolus) doses of 5 to 40 mg ketamine are required to obtain adequate anesthesia during the early phase of the 2-hour infusion. Incremental doses are added until the desired effect is achieved such as signs of mental dissociation and nystagmus. (See "SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS" #1 below regarding adequate anesthesia for a low-dose infusion)

If necessary, keep the mouth dry with glycopyrolate (Robinol 0.2 mg IV doses) and/or suction. This treatment can easily take place in the PACU with a significant other by the bedside to re-assure the patient. Routine monitoring for these patients typically includes BP and pulse oximetry.

Midazolam (Versed) will probably not be necessary to counteract the hallucinogenic effects of ketamine in patients with RSD. If unpleasant hallucinogenic effects occur with ketamine, 1 to 6 mg of IV midazolam should be given just prior to the ketamine infusion.

During recent years, it has become increasingly clear that long-term or escalating opioid use does not lead to improvement of function in every patient. Case studies of pain report that opioids actually increase pain in some patients as a consequence of injury or surgery, often associated with a modification of the pain character and an extension of the affected region that may persist for days, weeks, or even years.
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YAY I contributed!!
 
What's the consensus on IM/IVing street (powdered, pre-treatment) ketamine?

I can't see why it would be all too different from any other drug, but I can't find one post of support for it on bluelight.
 
shamus said:
What's the consensus on IM/IVing street (powdered, pre-treatment) ketamine?

I can't see why it would be all too different from any other drug, but I can't find one post of support for it on bluelight.
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Iv shot prob somewhere in the 70gram area of street keatmine crystal. considering most ketamine is cut with salt it wouldn't be bad.

take the risk but I consider the ketamine I was getting more pure then the dope I shoot now. so take that for what its worth.
 
OP: I dont understand why a continous K infusion is desired. The best thing about IV ket is the wild trip it takes you on, and the short amount of time it takes out of a day, with minimal hangover (unlike MDMA which leaves me depressed for days after blue Monday)
 
fastandbulbous said:
Well something beyond receptor based issues is responsible for the diminishing returns from ketamine (well IME)
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Are you talking about diminishing returns from subsequent uses in one sitting, or over a longer period of time?

I quite agree with the former, chasing the tail of a magical experience by immediately re-dosing just clouds the memory and the subsequent doses are never as good.

I'm well aware that this is purely speculative, but I want to know if it would be possible to maintain a k-hole type state for a longer period, and could one "learn" or get used to such a state.

One of the most profound k experiences is the point just before re-entry, of seeing the world stripped to what seems like it's fundamentals. Although I suspect that such a point is more to do with the re-integration of different functional elements withing the mind, and would thus not correlate with plasma levels etc of ketamine, but a critical moment in the re-establishment of the narrative of self and thus atemporal. In which case, this idea is doomed to failure. However it seems like this could be tested empirically.

djsim said:
OP: I dont understand why a continous K infusion is desired. The best thing about IV ket is the wild trip it takes you on, and the short amount of time it takes out of a day, with minimal hangover (unlike MDMA which leaves me depressed for days after blue Monday)
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I've never tried IV ketamine - I'm not really interested in short duration experiences - I just assumed that an IV drip would be the only way of maintaining a constant level of ketamine.
 
negrogesic said:
Jesus, that video was kind of creepy...
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Lol, it reminds me of my friend stationed in South Korea with the U.S. army. He recently got kicked out for panic problems (doing too many benzos & DXM and some H), he was in intelligence: did nothing but take substances, buy prostitutes and play Halo 3 online. A few months back I called him while he was "robotrippin'" on pills with DXM in them. He was having me help him get stuff to Korea through his ex girlfriend in San Francisco by mail. I text messaged him to call me and I didn't know he was high on DXM. He was 'together' enough to call me but the conversation was basically me telling him his ex girlfriend stole all his money that I sent her from him, and him not caring at all, it was basically "oh" or "what? huh? oh..." and not caring at all. The next day he didn't remember any of the conversation and was pissed off when I told him she stole all his money. hehe. I think I could spot anyone on PCP or a dissociative anaesthetic from those few phone conversations these days.
 
i've done repeated IV bangs of K with a half a dozen needles pre-prepped.

I don't reccomend it at all..

anyone who was a serious K snorter or banger knows how bad it loads up, you end up feeling like a psychotic peice of styrofoam.

you are better off doing a big oral or rectal dose (be careful) and then staying on that - if you want a long trip...

also, being in low-sensory environment will make it take longer for the sound threshold or distractions to bring you out.
 
wow, rage, I haven't seen you in, well, literally forever.

My wife's having a baby (hopefully mine!! ;)) in one to three weeks!
 
wow, coincidently I'm about to do a clinical trial at yale where in the volunteer guinneapig(me) is giving fully aneasthetic ketamine IV drip. Should be interesting, I was sertainly sold when the study was being described to me by the recruiter/study coordinater. Hell I would of probably been sold on it even if I had never done K givin the way it was described to me:)heh. Will mosdef report back on the experience however I was told that this wont be taking place for another couple of weeks, can't wait.
 
solvent101 said:
u wana b careful iving k u can paralise you heart im is safer might make your muscles hert 4 a while tho i jus sniff tho so idnt realy know.
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yu mite want 2 lern to spell if yu want peeple to tayke u seriusly.
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(zonk) said:
wow, coincidently I'm about to do a clinical trial at yale where in the volunteer guinneapig(me) is giving fully aneasthetic ketamine IV drip. Should be interesting, I was sertainly sold when the study was being described to me by the recruiter/study coordinater. Hell I would of probably been sold on it even if I had never done K givin the way it was described to me:)heh. Will mosdef report back on the experience however I was told that this wont be taking place for another couple of weeks, can't wait.
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I know you might not see this because this thread is old but how did the clinical trial go?
 
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