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Contemporary Descriptions of Jesus

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Ninae

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http://www.thenazareneway.com/likeness_of_our_saviour.htm

I just wanted to bring these to light for more as they made a great impression on me when I saw them. They seem to give a a clearer insight into his true nature and suggest he was a bit more glamorous and not as dull as he's commonly presented in our modern culture. It gives you a better idea of why people adored him so much (see the initial impression he made on Pontius Pilate).


"I asked him to describe this person to me, so that I might know him if I should meet him. He said: 'If you ever meet him [Yeshua] you will know him. While he is nothing but a man, there is something about him that distinguishes him from every other man."
 
Unfortunately, most of the little stories and recollections of jesus are actually fraudulent, meaning they can't really serve as the basis for developing a certain admiration for someone.
 
I believe these are some of the genuine ones we haven't been shown, though.

The biblical impression of Jesus is very controlled.
 
Most contemporary depictions of Jesus (from religious fodder pamphlets) seem to indicate to me that the religious sects are catering to lonely single women... nothing like a super-buff, ripped and muscular Jesus looking fly even when he's crucified.

I imagine the reality is much closer to Jesus being a middle of the road Aramaic dude.
 
Aha - I think it was more like the blond/blue eyed angle was used to make a strong impression on the people at that time when there was no TV, etc. Humans are simple. Seems like it worked well.
 
Well of course his image is westernized, the Romans took control of it and later the Church and western Europe. All you have to do is follow the ethnography and the standard appearances of how people looked at that time to get a decent imagining of what Jesus would've looked like. If he really was enlightened, then his energy would have made him seem far more beautiful than simply looking at a picture of him though. Therefore his specific appearance doesn't matter to me.

I don't have a problem with people who make him into their "personal Jesus" while changing his appearance because he's supposed to be a yidam for one's spiritual path. If you believe that Jesus is somewhere 'out there' then you're missing the point.
 
Foreigner said:
If he really was enlightened, then his energy would have made him seem far more beautiful than simply looking at a picture of him though.
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I think that was the point of it. And he was worshipped like a popstar or actor would be in our time. Or much more than that.

I don't think Jesus, with his mission, was sent to Earth with no resources. I think he got all of it.
 
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That could be true but the documents on the website you listed- at least, some of them- are thought to be fake...
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Thought to be fake by who? The Bible is thought to be true by many. Is there any evidence of it?

It's just simple descriptions of him at the time. I don't really see why anyone would feel the need to make them up. It doesn't really fit in with how he's generally portrayed in Christianity.
 
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sekio said:
Most contemporary depictions of Jesus (from religious fodder pamphlets) seem to indicate to me that the religious sects are catering to lonely single women... nothing like a super-buff, ripped and muscular Jesus looking fly even when he's crucified.

I imagine the reality is much closer to Jesus being a middle of the road Aramaic dude.
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It's most likely he only existed as folklore you're right. But the mythology is pretty powerful. That's why Michelangelo started drawing Christ as the Hulk on the cross as he aged. He also did private drawings and when he decided to start drawing him as the Hulk, a woman he had shown the image to wept. Shows that strength comes from within and Beauty isn't so objective. My favorite Zizek book, Monstrosity of Christ has one of Michelangelo's scrapped drawings of Christ pointing to the sky with one finger. Zizek's interpretation is Christ is saying "Fuck you". *From whatever Google Translate is worth it might say "This is God".

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I don't think he was "buff" in that sense. He's described as having a very refined built.

But it's not just about his physique but his being and the impact he had on people. I don't know why anyone would doubt that. Even Hitler had the power to sway the masses, women would faint when he appeared, and if it was given to him why wouldn't it be to Jesus? (or what kind of world would we be living in then?).

These days we just worship celebrities instead, who have a little bit of something, but nothing like I imagine Christ would have had.
 
Ninae said:
Thought to be fake by who? The Bible is thought to be true by many. Is there any evidence of it?

It's just simple descriptions of him at the time. I don't really see why anyone would feel the need to make them up. It doesn't really fit in with how he's generally portrayed in Christianity.
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Thought to be fake by academics, whatever that may mean. The first item, on the link you posted, contains linguistic anomalies that were unlikely to have been used during the time they are purported to be from. I think its a good idea to be sceptical of these sort of apocryphal writings which try to convey one strict view of jesus. These things seem obviously retrospective to me.

The catholic church, and other christian churches, would gain a whole lot from portraying christ as beautiful and appealing; why do you think suermodels are used to advertise cars? Why do you think unattractive people aren't?

ps. I'm not sure what you meant regarding the bible being "thought to be true". ?

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Wait while I charge up my Delorean...
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Exactly...

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But you come across as you don't like the idea of the existence of Jesus at all, positive or otherwise.
So maybe not the most objective approach to it.

Anyway, people have all sorts of crazy ideas about Jesus. It's a shame because I've seen what he can do. The sad thing is how many miss out on what he can do for them, if you can achieve some sort of connection.

But you first need to believe, accept, and welcome him into your home, of course. He won't come and save you like a Superman, you need to the most of the work yourself. That's what's challenging about it, but easy when you've establishd a connection.

By the way, most rerligions writing are thought to be fake by Academics. That is an whole other world. Many of them set out to disapprove the life of Jesus. They're material scientiests and not really looking to find out Jesus' true nature.

The linguistic anomalies are easy to explain - very ancient texts, translated over again and again, of course so inconsistencies were like to show up.
 
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This is an interesting outlay of the coarse of his life that the majority of us have never been exposed to. Rather the opposite of that. Being a rebel for Jesus is hard, but you can sense there's a special high-conscious energy all thrughout the writing. Enjoy those wo can (no point reading if you're anti-christ).

http://www.whoneedslight.net/page/482381728
 
(No point in reading if you're anti-Christ)
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Well, shit. The best we can do is Imitate so technically we're all anti-Christ. "There is only one Christian and he died on the cross" Neitzsche
 
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That was a bit unnecessary, wasn't it? You knew what I meant.

People who are so against Jesus generally don't get anything out of reading something like this, nor are they prepared to.
 
It's hard to be objective about a topic weighed down with so much baggage and misinformation.

Faith is all well and good, but it clouds many people's judgements - especially in regards to any "historical accurate" understanding of Christ.
The latter being quite interesting to me, despite having no particular interest in Christianity.
 
Non-belief clouds judgement too. And this kind of attitude is especially reserved for Christian culture (which I've never been a fan of though I accept Jesus). While someone subscribing to another religion, like Eastern-Buddhism would fight it tooth and claw and everyone would leave them alone. But who can be a prophet in their own land? Did a good job of it, admittedly, but a lot of misgrudges there.

Most Westerners find Jesus boring and annoying the way he's been forced upon us and would rather start up their own voodoo-cult if it allows for some more excitment (well, maybe not as extreme as that, but more acctraction to Eastern religions, etc.)
 
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