Opioids Consuming krokodil

[Tryptamite]

I was thinking of A/Bing some codeine and [no] I WILL be doing an extraction on the rxn mixture and cleaning up the combination of opiates that I hope to produce. I would be surprised if there was much if any desomorphine in the finished product.

I am confident in my chem skills but really not sure about this reaction. I have a basic idea of how it works but no real grasp of the stages involved.
I would know much more about methamphetamine synth [no]

It is very hard to come across proper discussion about what the Russian cooks are doing. I feel a lot of discussion about KROKODIL is scaremongering. Of course injecting the reaction mixture without adjusting ph or removing toxic by products and solvents in huge 10 or 20ml syringes is going to cause you trouble.

I'm sure there are decent cooks producing strong stuff in concentrated liquid form or powder form, which is relatively safe t use.

I WILL NOt be IVing this. Even though I do iv, this will be taken orally or possibly plugged.

Has anyone any firsthand experience with this drug? I doubt anyone has done it, but I know some BLers have seen it injected and possibly produced.

No synth discussion please. Thoughts? Opinions?

 

[neversickanymore]

If you are confident in your chem skills why not coat some lope with pure polysorbate 80 instead? http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/296086-Loperamide-(Immodium)-Megathread


"When loperamide is taken by itself, it cannot readily cross the blood-brain barrier; however, when loperamide-containing nanoparticles are coated with polysorbate 80 and injected, the results were the same as typical opiates and opioids -- long, effective analgesia. A solution prepared using loperamide coated with polysorbate 80 resulted in a very short duration of action and less effective analgesic effect. The same study concluded that loperamide does not cause any analgesic effects when taken by itself.[2]"

 

[Tryptamite]

Because I am particularly interested in this 'moonshine' heroin. I can get heroin as we speak. I do not have a habit, I kicked a 4 year methadone/heroin habit in February this year. Occasionally use H, trying to avoid dependence issues. Could get all sorts of RX pills if I really tried.

This is not out of desperation but interest. Imodium does not interest me at all.

'Kompote' acetylated poppy extract also interests me. A does dihydroheroin, but my skills are not up to that level.

 

[sekio]

I'm sorry, this is asking for trouble.

I have a basic idea of how it works but no real grasp of the stages involved.

This isn't the place to discuss it. You can search the literature to find a description of the synthesis of desomorphine. Hint: it is not a one-pot meth-style synthesis.

Without analytical equipment (GC or LC, or at the bare minimum TLC + melting points + derivatives) you are going to be faced with the problem of knowing what you've made and what you're isolating. Alternatively, maybe you have a GC/MS in your basement.

By the way, neversickanymore, how do you think the average person is going to make nanoparticles in their kitchen? Whisk it really hard?

Closing this thread.