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Consequences of the internet drug trade

omFg, Some of these moderators here...hey dude, calm your titts. i don't give a flying fuck about some middlemans...i am pretty sure you, yourself or someone close to you is a drug dealer...
not everyone lives in a place where they can get everything, shit even basic drugs... scene, what fucking scene...the scene here is only opiate is MF 3 and pussy ass codeine. thats pretty much it. i dont like ppl, pretty much i fucking hate them ( have many real, realistic views on that ).
i would to business anytime with an email address than some local fucking cunt who will give cut, snapped not by the scale bs... Get the fuck off your high horse. BLESS THE US AND A !!!!! now lets get some guns and shoot some ppl and keep the scene alive eh ??!!! fkk offf...
 
My being a moderator has nothing to do with my opinions on this subject and is irrelevant, nothing I say here is in an official voice, I want to make that clear enough, although the balance of your post leaves nothing worth a response. But if you complain about the lack of availability of drugs, well, that has never been a problem for people willing to put in the effort at making connections, either IRL or in the pre-Silk Road, pre-wide-open-doors status quo ante Internet scene.
 
SKL said:
Also these mega-dosed blotters I cannot for the life of me understand. This is a Euro thing or an Internet thing or both that I just don't get. What is the fixation with putting large doses of LSD on single blotter squares and deviating from the (modern, yes we know that doses used to be much stronger in the acid test days) "industry standard" of 100mcg per hit thus 10mg per blotter, 100mg per tenpack, 1g = 10 tenpacks. Putting larger doses on blotters, of which I'm always skeptical when people start throwing numbers around, is just asking for trouble in terms of people getting in over their head (so it's irresponsible to sell them IMO and more of a dicksizing thing than anything), and buying them for correspondingly more expensive doesn't make a lot of sense either, why not just adjust the dose appropriately? And if you're buying them to resell, who would believe you if they told you had 250mcg blotters and they were worth 3*x where x is the usual price?
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I really don't understand your point. You do realize that 250 μg/blotter is not the only option available right? There's usually everything from like 75 μg, 150 μg being the average, to over 200, so you actually have a choice in what you want to take. What you're saying is like "why the fuck do we have vodka if we can just drink beer?". A newbie can always take the weaker option, someone who likes serious trips can have their stronger blotters; see? Besides, that wasn't even the point I was making. I just compared 250 μg/blotter (which was cheaper than the more dilute ones) price to something that was more than two times less potent from the street, and the more potent one happened to cost LESS, almost two-fold. Yeah, I worded that poorly, but overall the internet-bought acid cost 4-5 times less per unit of weight. And no hassle.

But to each their own, you have to remember that people are different. If you like all the social interactions with degenerate drug dealers, the wasted time and energy, then who am I to tell you otherwise?
 
Internet trade:
-Anonymous
-Large selection
-Legit products (for the most part)
-More professional (pretty much like amazon, even has a rating system)
-Safer than the street
-Instant access to the best sellers

How is that a bad thing?

But IMO it depends on what you want, if you're able to source your product locally and have a good connection then why bother going online.
 
I think SKL just isn't a fan of the idea and isn't very open to accepting the pro's and con's of it. IMO the pro's/con's balance of online buying is more in the buyers favour than street buying. But I guess it all depends how good your street connects are. Even when I had top connections in my area though the quality and prices weren't as good as online ones not for hard drugs, MDMA or psychedelics. For cannabis it's a bit different, online looks more expensive than I pay.
 
SKL said:
All very well and good for the end user, with some quite problematic exceptions.
Airbnb is, with some quite problematic exceptions, all very well and good for the end user.
Uber is, with some quite problematic exceptions, all very well and good for the end user.
Airbnb is bad for hotels, Uber is bad for taxi drivers (and quite often for Uber drivers.)
Heck, the Internet itself ... although there's no simple formulation for that.
All of these things that seriously "disrupt" the way society is run need questioning rather than automatic embrace based on convenience.
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Yeah...so? As the economy develops some occupations get rendered superfluous. That's the consequence of living in a market economy where, y'know, consumers a.k.a. "end users" want commodities/services. Should we ban grocery stores from stocking milk so that the occupation of milk man continues to exist? 8)

It reminds me of George Orwell's argument in "Road to Wigan Pier", in which he laments that certain forces within the economy are going to leave everyone unemployed and bored. Except the boogeyman in that book was automation of industry, whereas the boogeyman here seems to be egg heads in Silicon Valley with their open source techno dystopias or something. Where, god forbid, consumers actually get what they want without having to curry favor with the guardians of THE SCENE, dutifully appointed to protect the ethical integrity of the illegal drug trade, a community "based on trust" (lol)! *gasp*
 
Burnt Offerings said:
Whatever. You're saying that people don't have a "right" to dictate how the scene should be run; I'm saying you're full of shit and the idea that the illegal drug world should have arbitrators so that Joe Pissant can't score his dimebags at his own convenience rather than relying on some "middleman" (lol, yeah, everyone loves a bag pincher right...but hey, if your 50 bag doesn't weigh you can always grab your piece and wave it in their face, right?) in the name of protecting THE SCENE, which in my mind is like trying to make sure a giant pile of trash & filth is protected from the carrion birds. :)

Elitists in every subculture hate it when certain aspects of that subculture become a little more popularized/less insular, I suppose.
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That is exactly how I see it too. Most drug dealers IRL or online aren't to be trusted anyway. And I would rather distance myself from those types. At the end of the day the bulk of drug dealing will always be done without the internet anyway, the huge multi kilo/tonne level dealing. All the darknet helps to remove is the unscrupulous street dealers, well that's how I see it here in the UK anyway.
 
Yeah I think Burnt Offerings hit the nail on the head in this one. I would just like to say/repeat that in a free market, the most viable way will flourish and the other diminish/die out. Given, street dealing will not completely die out until legalization and maybe even after that, but if online shopping all in all seems to be better for the end user, they will shop online. You know, that's just how it works.
 
namnoc16 said:
Um what was the question again,lol?
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I mentioned thinking about purchasing a substance online.
Cue interjections about how doing so makes you an introverted antisocial junkie
Rabble rabble rabble
Partial convo gets moved here
Aaaand scene.
 
I think he means they find fun from being shortweighted, sold questionable quality, and having nothing they can do about it.
 
So get better connections? Go get it where they get it from?
That's the drug game.
Maybe those better connections include from the Internet.
That's fine.
As long as some degree of effort and social connection beyond just typing an onion URL is involved.
 
Sid said:
I think he means they find fun from being shortweighted, sold questionable quality, and having nothing they can do about it.
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sounds like you need to find new dealers.Only drug I get illicitly anymore is marijuana and I have my own scale ,with my connect I've never been shorted. Also my prices for quality knock your dick in the dirt dank is much cheaper then all of the internet dealers(excuse me vendors) out there. Their mark ups are ridiculous but you do get a deal if you buy a pound(what user buys a pound of weed). Just bought a half oz of girl scout cookie that was on average 25% cheaper then an online dealer plus I can hold ,weigh, and smell the goods before purchase(not to mention I get it once I lay my money down)..
If buying on the internet is your bag then go for it I' more comfortable with my guy.I will add though I'm sure it's safer to buy shit like heroin(as long as it's real) on the internet then going to cop in the badlands(Philly).
 
SKL part of the problem with your argument is that you're proposing all these things like everyone has a one size fits all way of buying drugs. There are too many factors based on age, gender, location, personal limitations, ect Ect, the list goes on.

Let's say you had a wife and she really wanted to try, say, Kratom. So she could either buy it online and ship it to your house, or your wife can go chill with some dude you have never and will never meet, to go drive an hour to go meet some dude.
I don't think you would be saying "no honey. Don't buy that from an email address. Go on a long drive with some guy you just met. Make that new connection. THATS THE DRUG GAME".

You have to remember that not everyone is a middle aged 6ft tall man who's copping heroin from the same corner dude they've been hitting up for 5 years. Not everyone enjoys the "game". Prowling the city and talking to strangers about finding a specific substance is an activity that I simply can't and wont have any part of.
 
there's no street market for kratom
also there is no way my wife is chilling with some dude I have never and will never meet
the drug game is the drug game
and remember none of my arguments here have to with the convenience or comfort of the end user
additionally, the danger in buying drugs IRL is highly overrated if you are dealing with proper professionals
who, you know, have an incentive to have you as a return customer
if you deal with scumbags or junkies it's going to be a different thing of course
that's why you have to put a bit of effort into finding new connections
and those connections could be online
the only thing I'm saying is there needs to be a bit of effort put into making those new connections
making it "a click of a mouse away" fucks up the whole scene

also I understand the low level street drug game is shitty for females
that's how it is, bring a man along even if he isn't your man
safety reasons and all that, so it goes
but then again if you're dealing with professionals
you don't have to worry about that
because, again, repeat customers
unless you're dealing with scumbags
in which case
find better connections
or a ccw
 
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namnoc16 said:
sounds like you need to find new dealers.Only drug I get illicitly anymore is marijuana and I have my own scale ,with my connect I've never been shorted. Also my prices for quality knock your dick in the dirt dank is much cheaper then all of the internet dealers(excuse me vendors) out there. Their mark ups are ridiculous but you do get a deal if you buy a pound(what user buys a pound of weed). Just bought a half oz of girl scout cookie that was on average 25% cheaper then an online dealer plus I can hold ,weigh, and smell the goods before purchase(not to mention I get it once I lay my money down)..
If buying on the internet is your bag then go for it I' more comfortable with my guy.I will add though I'm sure it's safer to buy shit like heroin(as long as it's real) on the internet then going to cop in the badlands(Philly).
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What drugs do you buy online? I get my weed locally way cheaper than online. Coke, Heroin, MDMA are all labtested and proven either clean or bullshit. I can almost bet my right nut that if your buying coke in any city on the street it contains the poisonous cut levamisole, which personally I am not prepared to put in my body. I had good connects locally for coke, people buying bricks. The quality was even good and cheaper than online, but often there were active cuts. That is the reason I initially started using markets. I stopped coke since.

Also drugs like meth, MDA, 2c's are all very hard to source locally in my area. Online they aren't just available they're tested purity confirmed and it is what it claims to be (if your not an idiot using newbie cheapskate vendors).

Your also saying if you lay your money down you like to see and smell the goods first, I guess your only talking weed. But online there is a system known as Erscow, the site holds the money until you receive your order and confirm your happy with it and leave feedback saying so.

I get the impression most of the people outright putting down the idea of buying online actually know very little about it. Certainly none have presented a credible argument opposing it yet. Just misinformation and whinges so far. There are pro's and con's to both ways, and it all depends on what drugs you are interested in vs what you have contacts for locally. In terms of Heroin, coke, meth unless you know someone high up who CARES about the quality, which is rare, you will find these 3 drugs are safer bought online. - assessment of someone who has bought IRL and online. There is nothing wrong with either way if you take provisions and don't deal with assholes.
 
Do you actually believe there is no leva in your online coke?
It is put in quite highly in the supply chain.
Most likely quite higher than the net.drugs.dealers are getting it.
The more exotic drugs of course aren't available locally (although meth wouldn't generally be considered exotic but I guess it depends on location.)
But that is sort of a different game. They never were available locally on any wide scale.
They are pretty much native online products. A different thing.
But still, having them available to random people is not a good thing. And this goes back to Web Tryp.
Speaking of Web Tryp, there's a reason that scene went more private, and making it less private isn't a good thing (see: blanket bans.)
 
Well not when I go to the effort of sending it to Wedinos or EC there can't be after it's confirmed. Obviously it happens but it's much easier to find a supplier with clean drugs online than IRL.

Obviously it's put in at the source, there are however vendors who specialise in only selling bricks that are tested as clean, or even washing themselves. This is what I'm saying, for the people who really want clean and high purity drugs to the extent it is a niche (shouldn't be, you should all be pissed at the thought of poison in your drugs), then online is clearly better. It's also nice to be able to confirm with testing facilities your drugs are what they say they are. But I understand that's much less of a thing in the U.S than in Europe.
 
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