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curiousonly

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hi, i am trying to understand speed a little better i'm 24 and want to try for the first time just as a once off thing for my b'day. i have been trying to reseach it as much as i can but just seem to be confusing my self.
firstly is speed not just speed anymore? i was always under the impression that speed was one of the more minor drugs considering. but from what i can understand from the pages i have seen it is methanphatimes (sorry for spelling) and speed is just slang its other slang names can be meth, (for obvious reasons) crack, ect. i spose i am asking cause i am not one to experiment very much and not just going to try everything. i have always seen meth and crack and the others as never go there. but speed never seemed that bad. am i that misinformed??

also my husbands concern is that i am a big girl and he is worried about my heart. i have read that it increases heart rate and that could be dangerous but in the same page i read that it was given as a weight loss pill for many years can any one help me to understand please.

sorry for the elaborate explanation. i just want to know what i am doing before i do it.
 
curiousonly said:
hi, i am trying to understand speed a little better i'm 24 and want to try for the first time just as a once off thing for my b'day. i have been trying to reseach it as much as i can but just seem to be confusing my self.
firstly is speed not just speed anymore? i was always under the impression that speed was one of the more minor drugs considering. but from what i can understand from the pages i have seen it is methanphatimes (sorry for spelling) and speed is just slang its other slang names can be meth, (for obvious reasons) crack, ect. i spose i am asking cause i am not one to experiment very much and not just going to try everything. i have always seen meth and crack and the others as never go there. but speed never seemed that bad. am i that misinformed??

also my husbands concern is that i am a big girl and he is worried about my heart. i have read that it increases heart rate and that could be dangerous but in the same page i read that it was given as a weight loss pill for many years can any one help me to understand please.

sorry for the elaborate explanation. i just want to know what i am doing before i do it.
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Outside of Aus Speed refers to amphetamines. However, amphetamines are quite rare here. You're unlikely to be buying them, 99% of the time you are buying LOW GRADE (heavily cut) Methamphetamine.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=55873
That should hold all your answers.
 
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Yeah in Australia 'speed' is just slang for methamphetamine.
It really depends who you're getting it off too. My mates refer to any methamphetamine as speed, including 'ice'/crystal meth.
But there's basically no difference, only the purity. If you're worried about the strength and you only obtain a point (1/10th of a gram) or so, you can always cut it down yourself with glucodin or even crushed up sugar.

Have you had any issues with blood pressure in the past?

It is still currently used in the U.S as a weight loss drug. And for ADHD, actually have a mate online that gets it for ADHD.

Read up on some FAQs here: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=42 some really good information, it's good to see that you're trying to educate yourself before trying.
But the bottom line is that if you don't feel it's the right thing to do then don't do it :) Go with your gut instinct.
 
Welcome to BL.

I must say in my early days of substance interest, i was pretty damn confused about the whole speed/meth issue. I think its mainly the mainstream media's fault.
 
I dont claim to be correct but id like some insight, when I had this problem I did some research and this what I came up with

Majority, if not all of speed in Australia are methamphetamine, Id be guessing amphetamine could be availble but would be fairly rare.

There are 2 main types of methamphetamine. Crystallized and non-crystallized. Crystallized is higher purity where non-crystallized is lower in purity.

Base tends to be non-crystallized methamp and cut with im not to sure
Speed tends to be "base" heavily cut with glucose or msm, but I guess it could also be done with crystallized although it mightnt be more efficient/cost effective, not to sure tbh
Ice tends to be Crystallized methamp but I remember reading something about people able to turn msm cut meth into crystals so I guess crystallized doesnt always mean better purity.

Then something about depending how its synthed creates a different high.

So yea, as others have said, its basically all the same shit and the only difference is purity and what its cut with.

If im wrong let me know and ill happily edit this out.
 
thanks for the link it was easyier to understand than most of the pages i have read.
i havent had any problems with blood pressure.
from what i can understand from the links is that it is all the same thing just different levels. would that be correct? and that it is basically a trust with the dealer to know if i am getting the right thing.
i have one more question if you wouldnt mind?
hubby has said that we would buy in rock form because its less likely to have been cut with anything else is that true? and does that mean that usually it is a stronger form than if i was to buy in powder?
i trust him i just think he knows about as much as i do about this stuff.
thanks for the help again.
 
^^^^ in response to that theory, nope!

If you're purchasing speed at the moment, you are likely to be buying the ketone-based product. Which, by the time it has hit the streets, has been melted down & re-formed with various cutters added to it god knows how many times... (not that this doesn't happen with pseudo, but people are notoriously greedier with ketone these days).

So, no, 'rock' form means fuck all when we're talking meth, particularly speed. :)
 
The fact is it's so easy to just cut with glucose (or other common cutting agents - some of the more exotic ones are very hard to spot - I'll see if I can get some pics/links), put the product in water and let it dry out and recrystalize again.

It's a lot easier to cut powder, but still not rocket science to cut crystals.
 
Yeah, there's no real guarantee with meth, sadly :/ You're more likely to end up with good product buying clean looking crystals than you are dirty, gluggy base, but it's no guarantee.
 
Speed is methamphetamine just like ice, its just generally alot more cut up. I rarely indulge in amphetamines these days because its just so damn expensive. I have bought some 'speed' a few times in the last few months and haven't had any huge dramas with quality, it certainly wasn't shit.

It is definately possible to source a quality product branded as 'speed', I don't think just because you are overweight that makes trying 'speed' particularly more dangerous. I would reccomend you buy half a gram, try snorting or eating a point or so and wait to see how that affects you. You can always do more but you can't do less, titrate your dose up over a period of time until you reach a good level and you should be fine.

I don't know if you like to smoke weed or if you have access to benzo's but I would reccomend getting atleast one of them to help out with sleeping when you decide to crash.
 
If I can add slightly to this, I would think that if you were new into "the game", the gear you would be getting will be cut (quite possibly to buggery). Only now am i starting to "move up" as it will and making contacts with people who are able to get quite decent gear (twice removed-type gear).

Good luck, be safe with your dose! Remember, you can always take more, can't take less.
 
drug_mentor said:
Speed is methamphetamine just like ice, its just generally alot more cut up. I rarely indulge in amphetamines these days because its just so damn expensive. I have bought some 'speed' a few times in the last few months and haven't had any huge dramas with quality, it certainly wasn't shit.

It is definately possible to source a quality product branded as 'speed', I don't think just because you are overweight that makes trying 'speed' particularly more dangerous. I would reccomend you buy half a gram, try snorting or eating a point or so and wait to see how that affects you. You can always do more but you can't do less, titrate your dose up over a period of time until you reach a good level and you should be fine.

I don't know if you like to smoke weed or if you have access to benzo's but I would reccomend getting atleast one of them to help out with sleeping when you decide to crash.
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I'd hardly suggest taking a point of what could be fairly pure meth straight up. 100mg of methamphetamine is quite a dose to someone with no amphetamine tolerance. I'd say take a 1/4 point, and go from there.

Bit about the weed is definitely true though, a life saver for getting rid of annoying headaches on the crash and good help for sleep.
 
Guess it's each to their own then. Should probably note that I'm almost a daily weed smoker and don't tend to get very paranoid at all from weed, it's definitely my DOC.
 
ds333 said:
Guess it's each to their own then. Should probably note that I'm almost a daily weed smoker and don't tend to get very paranoid at all from weed, it's definitely my DOC.
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I was also a daily smoker until 8 days ago, and without weed I probably wouldn't know what paranoia or anxiety is.
 
@tyreal unlucky its taken u this long to be able to get decent whip, I happened to meet the right people quick smart =D

I also agree that your weight should play little role in danger, however if you are very overweight I would suggest doing further research.

Party safe and hope you like the experiecnce ;)
 
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