Confirming risky MDMA usage and the resulting consequences

[Folley]

^ No, I ABSOLUTELY want to roll. I have plenty of other, less "neurotoxic" drugs at my disposal... I will be taking them as well.

I am a firm believer that rolling responsibly leads to little or no damage.. I need to follow many simple rules that I used to be able to overlook in the past, and if I don't my comedowns are much worse than they used to be.. but with some responsibility, I know I will be fine the next day. A bit drained, sure.. but I'll live.



If you yourself don't believe that one ORGASMIC night is worth a few days down time, I won't try and dissuade you... but the only reason I store up my serotonin is so it can be released all over again

 

[F1n1shed]

^ No, I ABSOLUTELY want to roll. I have plenty of other, less "neurotoxic" drugs at my disposal... I will be taking them as well.

I am a firm believer that rolling responsibly leads to little or no damage.. I need to follow many simple rules that I used to be able to overlook in the past, and if I don't my comedowns are much worse than they used to be.. but with some responsibility, I know I will be fine the next day. A bit drained, sure.. but I'll live.



If you yourself don't believe that one ORGASMIC night is worth a few days down time, I won't try and dissuade you... but the only reason I store up my serotonin is so it can be released all over again

Fair enough.

 

[blight12]

2. I would like to hear from anybody who has used each friday and sat night for 7 months or longer and if this caused any issues.

I was definitely doing the same thing as you for the same amount of time and I have so many issues. I have a ridiculously high tolerance- I could take 200mg with almost no effect ... One of the worst problems I've noticed is I've lost my libido which is insanely frustrating! also I can't seem to shake restless legs and of course all my emotional problems- anxiety, paranoia etc

I'm confused though, did you go 8 years of not touching it? Have you gone back to it?

Yes, to confirm I stopped for 8 years without touching it and never went back, not because of great will power or not wanting more, just because being on SSRI's which i needed meant that the MDMA was blocked and would not have any effect. I did try once or twice but it didn't do much because of this.

Its interesting to see those with similar habits to mine all ended up with issues.

I believe I would also have recovered sooner in the time frames others mentioned (or at least perceived to do so) if it not where the fact that i had genetic weakness to issues with anxiety in the family and secondly due to the home invasion event which made things much worse with crippling PTSD.

 

[RoyMunson]

I take a lot of comfort from these threads (I don't mean that nastily blight!)

I've always been of the opinion that drugs are safe as long as you don't abuse the fuck out of it.

Nearly all the threads on here from people with genuine health issues seem to start along the lines of "I took 4 grams of MDMA last night and now I feel crap", or "I did 1 pill a day for 2 years and now I am grumpy".

I'd be a lot more worried if people who treat themselves a few times a year were reporting in with horrible health problems.

 

[blight12]

^^ I agree 100%. My hope is that my story will promote responsible use and that users can enjoy this amazing substance as long as they like without issues.

 

[Mendo_K]

Wow, 4 months. That makes twice a week look like insanity. Makes sense. I would imagine users would find this very difficult, especially new ones. Its just to damn awesome. I think also the safer more frequent usage of other common rec drugs can give the impression that the same should be ok with MDMA for those uneducated on the risks. If only it was as user friendly as dopamine, life would be great.

I (and about 7-12) of a group of mates went through a stage of about 15 months doing MDMA every weekend, and sometimes friday and saturday in a week, maybe the odd weekend only doing it every other weekend. Everyone would always get the same tusday blues as we would call them as you said, feeling pretty depressed etc but its to be expected abusing MDMA on such a scale, but by the weekend again everyone was feeling up for it and ready again and that continued for a good while.

After the 15 months or so people just started to do other things, people would just start drinking and going to the pub instead, I think it was because the music and drug scene went shit for a while round our part, or it was just getting all too much of the same, everyone was getting bored of it. We still had binges now and then though, like doing it 7 times in 11 days in ibiza, 4 times in 4 days at festivals etc now and then. That was probally about 3 years ago, to my knowledge no one has any lasting damage or depression (not that depression is anything anyone really talks about). I have pretty bad anxiety issues but I always really have and have never put it down to MDMA use.

Now everyone uses probaly once everyone 6-8 weeks as a big night out, everything in moderation you see. The long weekend benders of doing mdma and ket sessions now though are just replaced by drinking and coke sessions in the pub/ out at bars etc but its good to have a medium between the 2. Less is more with mdma, still at the age of only 21 though theres still a hell of a lot of more clubbing sessions to come, just not as frequent. AS for the long term, I think its been long enough to tell if there is going to be any lasting damage i think we stopped before it went on too long.......

 

[maxxsskip]

at snowball festival this week i consumed 1.7 grams of pure mdma rock in just 2 of the days.. im feeling alright still.. but not rolling for a year thats for sure.. the worst ive felt from mdma comedowns have been from unpure molly. comedowns from pure mdma are still there but definitely not as bad.

 

[cope]

Now it just so happens, I'm planning a roll for next Friday! I've learned my lesson from the past though, MDMA is a drug that needs to be treated with the utmost respect... and I give her it. I'm lucky, I still have the "magic" even after such ridiculous abuse. It's not 100% of what it used to be, and neither am I... but it's OK. Life goes on, life goes on.

please report back after that, i am interested how this will turn out. be safe folley!

 

[Dioxy]

I thought I had ruined my life FOR EVER... luckily, I have come to realize this is not true in the slightest. I have made an almost 180 degree turn, and am EXPONENTIALLY better. It took about 8 months since my last pill to even BEGIN to feel this good again, but it happens.. trust me on that.

This is extremely comforting to know. I abused MDMA twice a weekend (sometimes more... I hang my head in shame) for at least a year, and once a weekend in large/lengthy quantities for at least another two years (I've lost count...)

It ended in symptoms similar to the original poster, brain zaps, anxiety, some extent of derealisation, an overall malaise and lack of emotional responsiveness, the loss of libido that Foiley mentioned (and I'm fucking glad you did because that was beginning to REALLY concern me). It's been about 7-8 months since I stopped using SERT drugs on a reasonably regular basis ,with a handful of slightly less excessive occasions since, and I'm starting to feel like my head is screwing itself back on again. I've been agonisingly irresponsible with drugs for years now and I feel lucky to have escape as in-tact as I am.

I'm still suffering from disproportionate stress and anxiety, though not anything like to the extent of before. My libido is starting to rear its aggressive head (slowly but surely)... the thing that's taking longest is the sense of emotional detachment from my surroundings - there came a point where MDMA was a conduit to the experience of emotional interaction with the world, and I struggled to achieve it without. This is a chicken and egg scenario, and I think many of the symptoms of chronic MDMA abuse to fall into that category - many of us became so fond of it, in my view, because it seemed to 'fix' those parts of us that didn't, or don't, seem to function in the way that we want them to.

Fascinating to see everyone else's experiences, anyway, and all the best to you all in your recovery. If only we could have told our younger selves what we had in store. My fear for my own personality is that I wouldn't have listened.