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Confederate flag on state property/on state flags?

Kentucky decided to keep the statue of the great Jefferson Davis in its capital!
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The court of public opinion would have history erased I tell you what. All that being said the sc flag needed to come down. It always brings me back to 1984 and how progressive writers like to rewrite the past to suit whatever narrative. We are gonna be doomed to repeat the past if we do not remember and acknowledge it.
 
Kentucky decided to keep the statue of the great Jefferson Davis in its capital!
America: 1
Liberals:0

The court of public opinion would have history erased I tell you what. All that being said the sc flag needed to come down. It always brings me back to 1984 and how progressive writers like to rewrite the past to suit whatever narrative. We are gonna be doomed to repeat the past if we do not remember and acknowledge it.
nice attempt at trolling, droppers but the political affiliations of the commission members were not revealed. so your lazy assumption that this is a "you liberals" issue just falls a bit flat and look like you just trying to be divisive as usual.

every panel member who voted does have one thing in common - they are all white. if they really care about balance, rather than just paying it lip service, why are there no black commission members?

alasdair
 
nice attempt at trolling, droppers but the political affiliations of the commission members were not revealed. so your lazy assumption that this is a "you liberals" issue just falls a bit flat and look like you just trying to be divisive as usual.

every panel member who voted does have one thing in common - they are all white. if they really care about balance, rather than just paying it lip service, why are there no black commission members?

alasdair

Guess every policy needs at least one minority voting for it then.

Otherwise its racist.
 
Guess every policy needs at least one minority voting for it then.

Otherwise its racist.
did i say that? no. so let's move past the knee-jerk nonsense?

their rational for keeping the statue was a balanced perspective. the irony of the fact that the decision was made by a commission on on which every member is white is obviously completely lost on them (and you?).

alasdair
 
did i say that? no. so let's move past the knee-jerk nonsense?

their rational for keeping the statue was a balanced perspective. the irony of the fact that the decision was made by a commission on on which every member is white is obviously completely lost on them (and you?).

alasdair

The elected officials happen to be white. Personally i dont see color. To you theu are white men to me i judge on content of their character like dr. King said. Anyways we should invalidate the naacp with this logic that whole organization is black. Wheres the diversity there?
 
because the naacp doesn't exist in an idealistic bubble. if the world didn't see color, there would be no need for an organization like the naacp.

alasdair
 
Anti-racists are the worst people in America with regards to any racial issues we face. I feel zero guilt about being white, I roll with people of all races, "fighting racism" creates racial disharmony.

Also if you're guilty about being white maybe just end your whiteness permanently, I don't know much about suicide but I'm sure you can google all kinds of great techniques, with the side benefit of making America less white. (not directed at anyone in particular.)
 
because the naacp doesn't exist in an idealistic bubble. if the world didn't see color, there would be no need for an organization like the naacp.

alasdair

To clarify its ok if an organization/comittee is all-black, but if its exclusively white then their choices arent representive of the populace and only done in interests of "white people"? Would one black person be enough for you to consider this commitee diverse enough, maybe a Latino or Arab thrown in there as well.

Its the vicegrip of Obama and the Naacp that mean the story of the white kid shot to death during a drug raid of his 10 grams of weed gathers dust, while Treyvon and Michael Brown have inundated the American media for the last year.
 
To clarify its ok if an organization/comittee is all-black, but if its exclusively white then their choices arent representive of the populace and only done in interests of "white people"?
i don't believe i said that at all.
Would one black person be enough for you to consider this commitee diverse enough...
sure. it would be more representative of the state in that case.
Its the vicegrip of Obama...
vicegrip? lolhyperbole. he was voted into office by the u.s. electorate. twice no less.
...the story of the white kid shot to death during a drug raid of his 10 grams of weed gathers dust, while Treyvon and Michael Brown have inundated the American media for the last year.
it's hardly gathering dust.

the deaths of young, many unarmed, black men at the hands of white police get attention because the frequency with which it happens is out of all proportion. related reading: The Ferguson thread / additional race discussion

alasdair
 
it's hardly gathering dust.

the deaths of young, many unarmed, black men at the hands of white police get attention because the frequency with which it happens is out of all proportion. related reading: The Ferguson thread / additional race discussion

alasdair

It is...it doesnt support the far left narrative so its ignored. Treyvon and Ferguson did so they were repeated incessently and used as examples of a larger narrative of injustice. The thread of the white guy has what 2-3 replies, while the ferguson thread you linked to has literally hundreds of times that number. That i would classify as "gathering dust".

Maybe these statistics will shed some light on why blacks are shot by police more frequently.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/u...f_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls
 
the ferguson thread was running for 4 months and 25 days (147 days). the thread about the white kid being shot has been running for 12 days. of course it has fewer replies :\

in isolation, your fbi figures are less meaningful. but i suspect you already know that. we're talking about proportion so my points stands even if blacks commit crime more frequently.

alasdair
 
nice attempt at trolling, droppers but the political affiliations of the commission members were not revealed. so your lazy assumption that this is a "you liberals" issue just falls a bit flat and look like you just trying to be divisive as usual.

every panel member who voted does have one thing in common - they are all white. if they really care about balance, rather than just paying it lip service, why are there no black commission members?

alasdair

Oh give me a break. I am sure there are people of other political mind sets that concern themselves with appearing to be on the right side of the court of the public opinion, but that is due to them wanting to keep their jobs not any personal conviction. The left in this country has a way of using extreme political correctness to silence its opposition. This is why what trump is doing is so amazing. The reason he doesnt have to care is b/c he doesnt have donors hoping he gets elected to receive political favors. Americans ultimatley like a person with balls when shit comes to shove. Idk what you are arguing about I agreed the SC flag needed to come down. The fact that it went up in 1961 "to commemorate the civil war" is quite dubious indeed. Now states like MS need to vote on it like they did in 2001. If the people actually want it gone it will go. Look at Ole misses old mascot Colonel Reb the minute the old colonel started fucking up recruiting he was axed. Let the free market do its thing; that may be the single greatest principle that made this country greater than any other imo
 
the ferguson thread was running for 4 months and 25 days (147 days). the thread about the white kid being shot has been running for 12 days. of course it has fewer replies :\

in isolation, your fbi figures are less meaningful. but i suspect you already know that. we're talking about proportion so my points stands even if blacks commit crime more frequently.

alasdair

We both know that length of time is not the factor at play here. Arguably Trayvon Martin recieved more coverage than all 400 or so (according to FBI statistics) white people killed by blacks in 2013...combined!

It stands to reason crime rate differences play a role in increased liklihood of being shot by police.
 
^ read the thread to which i linked. it contains numerous links and plenty of evidence that deaths of young black men at the hands of police are out of all proportion to population, participation in crime, etc.

if you won't, i understand.

alasdair
 
the ferguson thread was running for 4 months and 25 days (147 days). the thread about the white kid being shot has been running for 12 days. of course it has fewer replies :\

in isolation, your fbi figures are less meaningful. but i suspect you already know that. we're talking about proportion so my points stands even if blacks commit crime more frequently.

alasdair

The ferguson/other stories make headline news and spin 24/7 speculation on news outlets for months on end. There is a common theme by the liberal media being constantly pushed that police are out of control killing supposed innocent african americans left and right.

The point is we have a slanted media that jumps on any incident involving a black man being killed by police and will run with a false narrative to fit their "police brutality against african americans" agenda. Most of the time it seems the media only make it worse when dozens of news organizations flood into these cities afterwards to "cover the story" only adding fuel to the fire. It's a fact that the whole "hands up, don't shoot" was completely false and never happened.

Caucasians are killed, as well as hispanics, natives, etc, but you never hear about it because it doesn't fit the liberal media's agenda, not to mention there is no "___LivesMatter" movement other than blacks.

IMHO the real problem are democratic policies that oppress minorities into urban projects/ghettos living under public/govt housing without any incentive to move off the system. Then the same oppressed people receiving funding are the ones voting for these policies so they can keep their funding.

In the state I live in the government will fund your housing, food, health, and cash assistance, fully, indefinitely, forever, unless your income is over a certain amount (which is really low and not livable)... the screwed up part is if you're actually working full time making a bit of money you get cut off assistance, but the cutoff is so low it's easier for people to live off the system than bust their ass working full time just barely getting by.

A few years ago my dad had to go on medical disability (or it was unemployment) and he said he received more money from disability by doing nothing than working full time.

Also, I work at a sober living facility where residents are funded cash, food, health, housing through the govt. I remember during the last elections I took some residents to the voting polls and some said they didn't know who they were voting for but were voting all democrat because "they're the ones who give us funding." Some of the residents living at our facility have been there 3-4 years, and show no motivation to get an education or work because they can live off the system comfortably for free. The system is broken. Don't get me started on the cash assistance, it's a frking joke. People can withdrawal hundreds from the atm each month on their state cards and get cash to spend on anything. It's unbelievable how much government cash is handed out to people to who then spend much of it on cigarettes, alcohol, other. At least with the food cards they can only spend money on food. There are 0 restrictions on the cash assistance. I've lived this and seen it first hand. I was fortunate enough to get a good job to help bring me out of that.

TLDR: Police are barely the issue in this clusterfq mess of a country. The primary problem are govt policies, a mix of not enough work opportunities combined with low wages and no incentive to actual work when the benefits of living off the govt are in many situations easier.

Just realized this is completely off-topic, sorry :p
 
For some reason that post made me think of this...

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