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concerta/celexa/pristiq/adderal/lamitel/abilify.
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Cloud_9
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Well I am sure that the Pristiq and the Celexa would at the very least severely dampen the experience if you were to roll on them. What you say is "lamitel" I am going to just take that to mean that you were referring to lamotrigine or Lamictal and I don't see any direct evidence that there is any reason why you couldn't take MDMA while on it, but as for the Adderal and Concerta; you may want to lay them off the day before and of your use, especially the Concerta. While there are millions of pressed pills with amphetamines mixed in with a minimal amount of MDMA, it isn't a very healthy thing force your body to be dealing with and the risk for nuerotoxicity as a result of hyper-thermia is greatly increased. While using your Adderal with MDMA may pose a small risk to your health, I would be much more concerned about the role that your Concerta would play if you were to take it. While there isn't a large serotonin re-uptake action with methylphenidate, which is the main ingredient of Concerta, it has been shown that it does act like a SSRI very mildly. While a SSRI, albeit a weak one would most likely just completely mute the MDMA, there is the off-handed chance that you could suffer from the urgently life-threatening serotonin accumulation that is called "Serotonin Syndrome" which could cause a hypertensive crises you may not be able to bounce back from.
The last one of those medications you have listed there, Abilify, is an atypical anti-psychotic with characteristics similar to the SSRI's you also listed, though considerably much weaker. You might be able to get away with taking MDMA with this medication and still be able to experience most all of the magic as it has only a minimal activity on the seretonin transporters but I would not just take what I am saying as license to play Russian roulette with your brain!
Again, to sum it all up: Concerta: NO | Celexa: Kills High | Pristiq: Kills High | Adderal: Maybe, but hard on your body | Lamictal: Probable Yes | Abilify: Probable Yes |
The last one of those medications you have listed there, Abilify, is an atypical anti-psychotic with characteristics similar to the SSRI's you also listed, though considerably much weaker. You might be able to get away with taking MDMA with this medication and still be able to experience most all of the magic as it has only a minimal activity on the seretonin transporters but I would not just take what I am saying as license to play Russian roulette with your brain!
Again, to sum it all up: Concerta: NO | Celexa: Kills High | Pristiq: Kills High | Adderal: Maybe, but hard on your body | Lamictal: Probable Yes | Abilify: Probable Yes |
omg man u are a freakin life saver, I could not find any info on the internet about this and I posted many threads and no intelligent responses, THANK YOU, if you don't mind I have one more question. Will any of those meds I listed in the thread about bk-MDMA fuck with my THC high? cause it seems they are fucking with it. But about the bk-MDMA, so if I just go off the concerta and celexa/prestiq, and continue taking my abilify (which is what I am on right now, I'm weining off to start lamictal) i will be all good? Btw that is what is the deal, I used to be on celexa(anti-deppresent) Concerta(ADHD) abilify(mood) now im on abilify concerta and prestiq, (prestiq replacing celexa as an anti-deppresent, also, this is the biggest request in the world and totally understand if u dont wanna or just dont got the time, but if u could reccomend 3 medicines, one for ADHD, Deppression, and mood, that don't fuck with drugs, I WILL LOVE YOU FOREVER!!!!! Please man, Im bad at research, plus it is hard as a kid.
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Ok im going to move this to PD. Please move back if you want to.
Roger&Me
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In short, yes.
The stimulants will increase your risk of serious cardiac events. They aren't good to combine with bk-MDMA.
The SSRI and SNRI will severely dampen the positive subjective effects.
God knows how abilify or lamictal would react....
Feel free not to answer, and I mean no disrespect in any way, but may I ask for what condition(s) does your doctor feel the need to prescribe such a laundry list of meds? A long-acting stimulant, a short-acting stimulant, an SSRI, an SNRI, an atypical antipsychotic, and an anticonvulsant..
I'm not a doctor, and I don't know your medical or personal history-- so I say this just as a person. Honestly unless your condition is quite severe, its likely your physician is prescribing too aggressively. If he's prescribing these medications without close supervision and regular bloodwork to monitor renal and hepatic function, I would advise getting a second opinion immediately.
Again, I'm not trying to judge you in any way-- and I'm not trying to give you any medical advice: but I would strongly urge seeking a second opinion from a qualified neurologist because that cocktail of drugs could actually cause you some bad irreversible damage if taken for an extended period.
Love + Lite lumpywins, I wish you the best.
The stimulants will increase your risk of serious cardiac events. They aren't good to combine with bk-MDMA.
The SSRI and SNRI will severely dampen the positive subjective effects.
God knows how abilify or lamictal would react....
Feel free not to answer, and I mean no disrespect in any way, but may I ask for what condition(s) does your doctor feel the need to prescribe such a laundry list of meds? A long-acting stimulant, a short-acting stimulant, an SSRI, an SNRI, an atypical antipsychotic, and an anticonvulsant..
I'm not a doctor, and I don't know your medical or personal history-- so I say this just as a person. Honestly unless your condition is quite severe, its likely your physician is prescribing too aggressively. If he's prescribing these medications without close supervision and regular bloodwork to monitor renal and hepatic function, I would advise getting a second opinion immediately.
Again, I'm not trying to judge you in any way-- and I'm not trying to give you any medical advice: but I would strongly urge seeking a second opinion from a qualified neurologist because that cocktail of drugs could actually cause you some bad irreversible damage if taken for an extended period.
Love + Lite lumpywins, I wish you the best.
Mariposa
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In full agreement with above post from Cloud 9. SSRIs and E are contraindicated. At minimum, the bk-MDMA would not work as expected. Worst case scenario: unknown, but I wouldn't chance it. If you are on SSRIs, do not do bk-MDMA. Period.
Concerta and any AD(H)D drug would probably overpower the bk-MDMA and you wouldn't feel much effect. Elevation in blood pressure and heart rate would contraindicate administration of bk-MDMA as same will elevate both on its own. At best, it would be an uncomfortable experience. At worst, see above.
I assume you or your vendor (do not mention names on BL pls, as it's against the rules) knows the dose and potency of the bk-MDMA. If you are unsure of this, do not administer under any circumstance.
Are all the drugs you are prescribed from the same doctor? That's a lot of meds at once. Abilify's a DA-agonist, but to what extent, remains unknown to me (can someone cite a study on this?). It is (allegedly) fine to take Abilify with SSRIs such as Pristiq.
Please do not take the bk-MDMA with the combination you described. No one here is a/your doctor, and if you are already dealing with depression, it is best not to take bk-MDMA or any research chemical. This is my opinion as a layperson, but at minimum the comedown would exacerbate your depression.
Whatever your choice, bk-MDMA should not be co-administered with any of the above and Cloud 9 answered this better than I could have. Thanks
I'm not AD(H)D (I don't think) but as to depression, it is a process of trial and for the most part (imo) error.
Cannabis would not present a problem unless you were to get anxiety from cannabis (some do, some do not), which would potentially affect your mood adversely.
Welcome to BL, and my best advice to you is to not turn your brain into a potential chemistry experiment. Lurk a bit around the various forums on different substances and their effects, read some FAQ's - there is much information on this site, and since you're presented a complex question in a good way, I think you'll fit in well here. Ecstasy Discussion, Psychedelic Drugs, and Other Drugs might be some good places for you - and don't forget to introduce yourself in New Member Introductions, in addition to the Welcoming Thread in The Dark Side forum.
*edit* PA, great minds think alike!
Concerta and any AD(H)D drug would probably overpower the bk-MDMA and you wouldn't feel much effect. Elevation in blood pressure and heart rate would contraindicate administration of bk-MDMA as same will elevate both on its own. At best, it would be an uncomfortable experience. At worst, see above.
I assume you or your vendor (do not mention names on BL pls, as it's against the rules) knows the dose and potency of the bk-MDMA. If you are unsure of this, do not administer under any circumstance.
Are all the drugs you are prescribed from the same doctor? That's a lot of meds at once. Abilify's a DA-agonist, but to what extent, remains unknown to me (can someone cite a study on this?). It is (allegedly) fine to take Abilify with SSRIs such as Pristiq.
Please do not take the bk-MDMA with the combination you described. No one here is a/your doctor, and if you are already dealing with depression, it is best not to take bk-MDMA or any research chemical. This is my opinion as a layperson, but at minimum the comedown would exacerbate your depression.
Whatever your choice, bk-MDMA should not be co-administered with any of the above and Cloud 9 answered this better than I could have. Thanks
I'm not AD(H)D (I don't think) but as to depression, it is a process of trial and for the most part (imo) error.
Cannabis would not present a problem unless you were to get anxiety from cannabis (some do, some do not), which would potentially affect your mood adversely.
Welcome to BL, and my best advice to you is to not turn your brain into a potential chemistry experiment. Lurk a bit around the various forums on different substances and their effects, read some FAQ's - there is much information on this site, and since you're presented a complex question in a good way, I think you'll fit in well here. Ecstasy Discussion, Psychedelic Drugs, and Other Drugs might be some good places for you - and don't forget to introduce yourself in New Member Introductions, in addition to the Welcoming Thread in The Dark Side forum.
*edit* PA, great minds think alike!
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Sorry for the confusion guys, I stated this waayyy wrong. I was on Celexa(anti-deppresent) Concerta(ADHD) and Abilify(Mood stabilizer) I recently asked to be switched because after lots of research abilify, and concerta fucks with my THC high, I did not want that, so I got switched COMPLETELY to, Prestiq(anti-deppresent) Adderall(ADHD) and Lamictal(Mood) my doctor (which I hate but my mom is a bitch and wont listen to me that he is NOT helping in anyway.) wants to take me off and on to a new one once at a time so I stopped celexa and am now on Abilify, Concerta, Prestiq. I got home and researched these meds and what do ya now? Lamictal can cause SERIOUS problems when you mix it with THC, so I cant smoke pot.....It is so hard to try to get my medicine changed for my benefit for drugs, when they are illegal........ I wish I could tell my mom and doctor the truth without going to rehab again.. but w/e, I personally want to go off ALL medications because strangely enough, I was happier and more normal when I was on NO medicine like 5 years ago... I'v been clinically Majorly deppressed for the past 5 years....ever sence I started taking medicine for it....Strange? Im sorry I went WAY off topic but the point is at the top with the medicine.
greenmeanies
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does your doc know that you felt better before starting these meds? why did you start them in the first place? was it after you got out of rehab? did you go to rehab for just weed or what?
you need to have a serious discussion with your doctor. tell him that your medications don't seem to be helping and you would like to TAPER off all of them under his supervision. are you seeing a therapist?
from what it sounds, you should NOT try combining any illegal drugs with the current cocktail you're taking. at best, bk-MDMA and THC will not get you high. at worst, they can damage your neurons or heart.
you need to have a serious discussion with your doctor. tell him that your medications don't seem to be helping and you would like to TAPER off all of them under his supervision. are you seeing a therapist?
from what it sounds, you should NOT try combining any illegal drugs with the current cocktail you're taking. at best, bk-MDMA and THC will not get you high. at worst, they can damage your neurons or heart.