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Concerns , Mixing Ketamine and MDMA - also diet affecting MDMA experience

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So anyway, i did a 150mg of mdma crystal, put into a gel capsule so its a one hit one go jobby. , i estimate to be around 85% Pure at least.

I also followed my Pre-Roll diet, which is on my blogs (which raises serotonin, in the brain big time i think)

Then i consumed about 300mg ketamine throughout the night too.
I was really out of it on the mdma, i mean wooosh. So maybe im thinking i should probably dose a little bit less say, 130mg, see how i go on that.

towards the end of the night out, i went to the toilet to pee and my hearts bpm was noticeably very high and heavily thudding too.

Concerned me a bit, so maybe my guess is my diet i follow is very successful, but maybe i should take less mdma in light of this fact? It did seem like a full on whack i was mangled... I wont lie though i loved every moment of it (except towards the end of the night)

A little while ago i did 90mg MDMA and about 200mg ketamine, with my preroll diet, didnt have a mad on night but it was still quite enjoyable but NO problems with heart beat/function.

Just scared me a little was all, although i tried to not panic as that could have made things worse, this noticeable change in heart rate dropped after 20 minutes of noticing it.

I dont drink alcohol i just thought id add that..
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So in summary, i am finding my preroll diet AMAZINGLY successful, everyone is always jealous of how far mdma gets me, i dont think its the ketamine mdma mix that was okay last time as i said before, so just try less MDMA ?

What do others think of this
 
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If you felt like it was too high a dose or the effects were a little overwhelming, then yes, a lower dose sounds like a good plan :)

Ketamine can actually cause tachycardia (increased heart rate) too but MDMA + ketamine is a common and popular mix, and isn't especially dangerous as far as I am aware.
 
ill definately dose lighter next time,
it was a bit scary when it was beating that fast ive never seen/felt / heard it beat that fast
 
Often it feels a lot worse than it is.

Tachycardia/fast heart rate isn't that worrying in itself, especially low-grade tachycardia (say 100-130bpm) as long as the rhythm (and electrical activity, although you wouldn't know this without an ECG) is still normal. Sometimes people can flip into an irregular heartbeat for a bit then flip back out - again this isn't a big worry. If it happens a lot see your doctor, but a fast heart rate on stimulants is usually a lot less of a worry than it feels at the time. Cocaine, or other potent vasoconstors, are more of a worry than MDMA as they reduce blood flow to your heart while it is working harder than normal.
 
ah right okay, well i dont do cocaine anyway.
Line of K, line of Coke... Ill choose the K EVERYTIME lol.

The only thing im thinking is, there isnt much evidence or research done on foods increasing serotonin production/levels and with my guide i wrote up i always just get the same scientific responses proving against any theories i have.
But noone seems to actually give it a go ,
Im always the most mangled on mdma on so so little in any venue/club i go to, people are going to up me and telling my friends (which also say the same) they are so jealous of how far mdma gets me.

So could a brain being flooded in too much Serotonin cause this super increased heartbeat?
 
It could do, tachycardia is one of the symptoms of serotonin syndrome, which is at the extreme end of a continuum of effects due to increased serotonin levels.

Serotonin syndrome

Note - I am NOT saying that you had serotonin syndrome! :) just that excess serotonin can affect the autonomic nervous system and can cause tachycardia.
 
I wish 150mg of MDMA got me as wasted as you sound you were, the first time i tried it i needed 300mg to be where i wanted to be.

Maybe it was poor quality MDMA, or maybe i had a natural high tolerance?

What does your pre-gurn powder diet consist of?
 
As this is now primarily about MDMA, and how diet affects it, I have edited the thread title slightly and am going to move it over to Ecstacy Discussion. I hope that is okay.

BDD > ED
 
Err, increased heart rate is generally just a side effect of MD man. The MD and ket combo is beautiful, both are potentiated so much, so use less ket and less md... I wouldnt worry, I've done alot more ket and mdma in one night and felt absolutely fine in the morning.
 
pally pete said:
I wish 150mg of MDMA got me as wasted as you sound you were, the first time i tried it i needed 300mg to be where i wanted to be.

Maybe it was poor quality MDMA, or maybe i had a natural high tolerance?

What does your pre-gurn powder diet consist of?
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I was absolutely wasted... i was pinned to that middle pillar for a good 2 hours, people looking at me with that expression "WHOA" on their face hahahha i love it ..
Look through my blogs mate, Also thank you so much for the mixes again =)
I love music so much.

StrutterGear, I think your right, its always been a really safe combo for me.

I never drink any alcohol on a night out either (i think that decreases serotonin levels)
Okay the day before i ate : Tuna, dark chocolate (85% cocoa), cheese.
The morning before i rolled i ate : Tuna, dark chocolate (85% cocoa), Cheese and i got loads of sunlight too.
I hadnt rolled for about 28 days i think.
 
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