Mental Health Coming Off Vraylar (cariprazine), Rexulti (brexpiprazole), or Abilify (aripiprazole)

Not to mention the drug is accumulated after taking multiple capsules over the course of the prescribing. 30-45 days worth of vraylar intake means anywhere from 1.5-6 mg of vraylar per day. As that adds up, it makes an accurate half life rather difficult to calculate. My estimates showed 420 days approximated.
That's just not true. 5 Half Lifes, no matter your dose you got. 5 Half Lifes x 21 Days makes 105 Days. Now, if you are clever and use an strong inducer like St. John's Wort, it you can count it 55 Days.
 
I have eaten normally for the last 4 Days. I panicked a little bit because it states, that its elimination is through bile. And i though bile is automatically stool or feces. As i was fasting most of time i didn't need to go to the bathroom.
Anyway i got relief when i read, that it's elimination is mostly through Urine.
Today i watched Tik Tiok for 2 hours straight and i had good laughs for the very first time since like 3 weeks or so.
But i also still have pressure in my head... It is getting better. Let's see how many waves are still to come... I am definately not a fast metabilizer as it is almost 15th of march and i still feel the effects. Maybe next month though i hope.
 
That's just not true. 5 Half Lifes, no matter your dose you got. 5 Half Lifes x 21 Days makes 105 Days. Now, if you are clever and use an strong inducer like St. John's Wort, it you can count it 55 Days.
Your math here seems quite iffy

Whoever you're referring to in your post is obviously you. The calculation I did was for myself. No one else.
 
While I would normally agree with RDP89,

Just because a drug is out of the body, doesn't mean it can't cause lasting side effects.
Look at tardive dyskinesia for example. It can occur on AP's at any time and is often permanent.



For what it's worth, I'm still having spasms in my eye lid to this very day. I'd love to think it was just anxiety, but if it were, it would go away when I'm not anxious or take a clonazepam.
I firmly believe it was caused by Vraylar. But since I can't show on a cellular or molecular level what exactly happened in my body when I took it months ago, it's hard to say.
A;though it is now a reported side effect of it and they don't really specify when this "side effect" would go away, if ever. Just like other movement disorders that these kinds of drugs cause.
In fact my eyelid is twitching as I write this & I'm as calm as a rock at the moment.
 
Sorry, I mean, I don't want to get your hopes down.

If you take a look at the Invega threads, they're probably still trying to figure out what efficacy means as far as recovery and recovery as far as efficacy and they still haven't!

When it comes to eliminating such a drug I don't particularly care what others think as far as my following point goes. I want it eliminated! .0068 mgs left is absolutely not going to cut it for me. I want it gone.
 
Drugs can often cause side effects that can last outside of the drug having been fully eliminated.

This is why people can have PAWS from alcohol, opioids, etc... Or attention, energy & mood problems after they've come off a stimulant.

How long these side effects last varies from drug to drug and from person to person, how long you were on them, dosage, etc...
(Although I only took vraylar for a few days back at the end of October and am still having eye-lid twitches & it wasn't a very big dose).

I'm not at all shocked that you'd still be having some issues iridescentblack. I feel you!
 
Drugs can often cause side effects that can last outside of the drug having been fully eliminated.

This is why people can have PAWS from alcohol, opioids, etc... Or attention, energy & mood problems after they've come off a stimulant.

How long these side effects last varies from drug to drug and from person to person, how long you were on them, dosage, etc...
(Although I only took vraylar for a few days back at the end of October and am still having eye-lid twitches & it wasn't a very big dose).

I'm not at all shocked that you'd still be having some issues iridescentblack. I feel you!
Ah, well. I'm an alcoholic with a fungal infection in my guts. It's gonna take some serious man-power to grow up from this.

But the anger I feel.

Saw a tik-tok today where "psychiatrists are required to go over the list of side effects"

That would include the doctor going over the half-life too, probably in a perfect world though... such is life.

Not sure if it's any consolation, but I just remembered I had eye-twitching from Invega. Several years off the drug (wanna say 4 to 6) the problem was completely gone. Sorry, just spaced it when you asked before because I was going through some turmoil. But I hope for you it's the same case. Just give it time.
 
Your math here seems quite iffy

Whoever you're referring to in your post is obviously you. The calculation I did was for myself. No one else.
Why so? St. John's Wort cuts the Half Life of Vraylar in half. Sorry, but your calculations seems a bit off. There is no possibility, that Vrlaylar causing you the problems. Maybe you have lasting side effects, but i remember seeing you also in the Invega Sustena Thread, so i think it must be more of that.
 
Ok for the very first time since Weeks i felt like my old self again, partially.
The wave has gone and i am facing the same old fears as it used to be (which is a good sign for recovery). I am not having a good time. I sometimes feel normal again , then again sometimes not.
I started an open end Fast again. Maybe i go 7-10 Days. Fasting has came out for me as a tool. Especially as Stress management. I can handle Stress much better when i fast. And i am loosing weight, which is good too. Anyway better loosing weight and sitting home all day, than sitting home all day and not loosing weight.
 
Why so? St. John's Wort cuts the Half Life of Vraylar in half. Sorry, but your calculations seems a bit off. There is no possibility, that Vrlaylar causing you the problems. Maybe you have lasting side effects, but i remember seeing you also in the Invega Sustena Thread, so i think it must be more of that.
You're wrong about everything you said there; not to mention the hypocrisy of your post: you seem to be bragging about your potential recovery from Vraylar, stating you'll be recovered after 55 days and yet, you suggest that Invega Sustenna lasts in the system for more than 7 years. What the hell are you even saying?
 
Today i ate. Out of pure boredom and the demand to feel pleasure. It failed. Neither i could enjoy Chocolate or my food. Dopamine is a motherfucker. And it is blocked
 
The pressure in my left ear is just about almost out. At this point, I have to keep circulating energy down the Pingala meridian and up the Ida meridian in order to stay at baseline. I suspect this will not be a problem for long, as my Ida meridian just has a few more blockages left for me to correct.

Handling coffee a lot better too.
 
Bump (because I'm pretty sure there's someone out there looking for a thread like this)

Is it possible one of the mods could get this one linked up to google and bing searches and such? I know they did that for the Invega Sustenna thread

Update: Vraylar is almost completely gone from my system. The worst of my systems came earlier this month and sometime before that is probably when it started. Felt like every once in a while a giant pole would get jammed up my ass and go up my spine! Then there was this other psychosomatic symptom where it felt like pieces of rebar were in my back and were trying to twist one way and the slightest thing could make the "rebar" dance from side to side like someone was holding it in their hands like a makeshift steering wheel.

Anyway, a note on Vraylar: it has what I refer to as an effective period of it's administration and efficacy that was actually decent! Every other portion of dealing with it sucked! But that one period of about six months or less was probably when the medication had reached it's so called baseline. Since it's a long-acting antipsychotic, I guess it kind of does that. When I first took it though I kept getting severe muscle stiffness in my right leg (and even now, which I'll get into) and then there was the nausea and the sleep problems. Akathisia didn't set into until way later on this drug. But nowadays the only symptom I still get, now that the psychosomatic stuff is gone is leg stiffness.

Vraylar seems to be one of those meds that has various phases that kind of overlap the neighboring stages to some degree. Coming off the drug is similar to first taking it, I think. The symptoms that first start with taking it are likened to the ones that come at the end. In this case I don't nausea though, but my sleep is somewhat messed up... With the one major symptom remaining being leg stiffness it makes it hard to go anywhere again. So I've chosen to just wait it out.
What is the basic premise of vraylar ?
 
I agree. I almost feel like I was mentally injured by vraylar. I stopped taking it. No thank you!

I don't have schizophrenia or bi-polar & I can't see how it would help my depression with all the insane side effects.
Gave vraylar. It still sits in my safe at 1500 a script.
 
What is the basic premise of vraylar ?
It lowers or 'balances' the amount of dopamine in a person's brain.
People with schizophrenia or mania often have higher levels of dopamine in their brain.

I'm pretty sure it works on other receptors or on other mechanisms just based on my experience taking it and the side effect it causes.


And yes it is a very expensive new drug.
 
It lowers or 'balances' the amount of dopamine in a person's brain.
People with schizophrenia or mania often have higher levels of dopamine in their brain.

I'm pretty sure it works on other receptors or on other mechanisms just based on my experience taking it and the side effect it causes.


And yes it is a very expensive new drug.
So why would someone co commit this drug with adderall IYO?
 
So why would someone co commit this drug with adderall IYO?

No clue. Sounds kinda flaky.

It would probably dampen the adderall effects to a degree or change the entirety of the experience altogether.

To be totally honest, from my experience, being through a lot of psychological shit & put on many meds, is that, doctors have no idea what the hell they're doing half the time.

They will throw all kinds of combos of drugs at you and they have no idea how you will react to it and honestly most don't even take the time to look up all the side effects and reactions that can happen from combining certain meds. They just guess and see how you handle it. Some times they get kick backs. As in if they prescribe a certain drug (usually new, brand name ones), they will get an financial incentive. Reps for the drugs actually go around and try to get doctors to push their new drugs.

So basically, since vraylar is a new and expensive drug, your doctor probably pushed it onto you for the kickback, without caring how it might affect you, your adderall or your health.
A lot of these psychiatric drugs can cause long term issues, including tardive dyskenesia (unable to control body movements), cognitive issues, even sudden death.
But hey, your doctor prolly got a new car or boat, so it's all good.

I've had to correct doctors, teach doctors about drugs & even stop them from prescribing me things that would have reacted dangerously to things I was already on. It's ridiculous, And they get upset and think you're challenging their "education". And then you barely get a say in what you want to take. Hell I'd love to get on adderall for my depression, but no doctor will prolly help me there.
 
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