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Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v11

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twinpeaks123 said:
looking for support

I took 50mg vvyanse yesterday and I am still feeling discomfort/jitteryness, i don’t know if it’s the akathisa or this medication but it feels different and persistent
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Well, isn't Vyvanse a prodrug?

I found the PIL (Patient Information Leaflet) here:


Which lists side-effects and advises what steps to take if you encounter either specified or even other side-effects.

I don't know where you are based but I was under the impression that only specialists will prescribe such medication as part of a treatmrent plan which should highlight potential issues.
 
4DQSAR said:
Well, isn't Vyvanse a prodrug?

I found the PIL (Patient Information Leaflet) here:


Which lists side-effects and advises what steps to take if you encounter either specified or even other side-effects.

I don't know where you are based but I was under the impression that only specialists will prescribe such medication as part of a treatmrent plan which should highlight potential issues.
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what’s a pro drug?
 
RisperdalConsta50mg said:
Switzerland 🇨🇭- Yeah i sued them by the health vigilance sourveillance commission, and the ethic comitate. There is no way shit like that happened in this country.
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I think euthanasia is legal in Switzerland. I'm definitely not saying this to encourage you to do it or to trigger you. I'm just saying this for myself. If such a practice were implemented in my country, I would apply for it myself. This kind of life cannot be called life. It's not sustainable.
 
fuqrisperdal said:
I think euthanasia is legal in Switzerland. I'm definitely not saying this to encourage you to do it or to trigger you. I'm just saying this for myself. If such a practice were implemented in my country, I would apply for it myself. This kind of life cannot be called life. It's not sustainable.
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I started the thing with them, but it take a very long time
 
silenthill said:
i remember seeing you around shortly after i got invega, the days where people would be up til four am messaging because of the restlessness. i don't remember my old username though unfortunately. anyways, it's nice to see you also made it.

there was a time where i was constantly bedridden, walking back and forth in my living room for hours. even needing help bathing myself because my bones were brittle and i had severe pain all over my body with constant spasms. i spent my twentieth birthday in my room all day with severe anhedonia. i watched the people closest to me say i'm basically insane while they agreed with the doctors. i was hospitalized three times after invega.

now that i'm on the other side, i feel like my eyes are truly open to how this world works and how to avoid this ever happening again. i got accepted into a great university. i went from 215 lbs to 160 lbs, being quite tall. (i recommend keto.) i sleep full uninterrupted nights. i look forward to things again. just to note some of my recovery.

i guess i just wanted to see how everyone else was doing since there have been tough, depressing times on this forum. with that, never lose hope and believe in recovery. 🖤
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how many months did recovery take for you?
 
twinpeaks123 said:
what’s a pro drug?
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The active in Vyvanse is lisdexamphetamine which is not active. Enzymes within the body convert it to amphetamine... which is amphetamine.

How concentrated the enzymes are between individuals is variable. For some it seems lisdexamphetamine is almost idential to plain dexamphetamine but for most, it takes hours so the theory is that the drug is less 'abusable' because of it's slow onset and long duration. But if you happen to have less of those enzymes, the effects could last much longer.

Always read the PIL. Always know what potential side-effects are known and even then understand that idiopathic side-effects can still occur.

In the case of lisdexamphetamine, I believe many people find the stimulation unpleasent but tolerance reduces such side-effects over time while the sought effect (treatment of ADHD) remain.
 
lukeflowz said:
Good luck with your teaching @Trueart2
Wish you well.

Another day another struggle, hoping some ease of my suffering will come soon. I hope some improvements come to me by the fourth month.
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Thanks, man. Continue to strive for yourself because the unfortunate reality is nobody else will.
 
Trueart2 said:
People get better and move on.
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@Trueart2 if people are getting better, and fully recovering, do all of them lack empathy to the point where they never come here to encourage us?

The more important question is, are people just getting better or fully revovering? How many are commiting suicide because they are no longer fully recovered? How many shared that they commited suicide?
 
anonymoususer777 said:
@Trueart2 if people are getting better, and fully recovering, do all of them lack empathy to the point where they never come here to encourage us?

The more important question is, are people just getting better or fully revovering? How many are commiting suicide because they are no longer fully recovered? How many shared that they commited suicide?
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Suffering from Invega is a really tough time in people’s lives and multiple people have indicated it’s the pinnacle of suffering they’ve ever faced for themselves. I don’t think people who don’t comeback to these forums after they’ve recovered should be penalized or criminalized for not coming back. All one can truly do while recovering from Invega is wait, exercise, and take some supplements.
People returning to give us stories about it won’t change the fact of the matter and it doesn’t make the situation better for any of us, it just projects a false image of making our situation more bearable because we’d have more people here.

As long as the people in the past left their traces of information(which they did by posting about it), then I have no qualms against them. I think if you want encouragement you have a duty to yourself to research through the history of these forums.

History is the best qualifier for understanding.
 
anonymoususer777 said:
@Trueart2 if people are getting better, and fully recovering, do all of them lack empathy to the point where they never come here to encourage us?

The more important question is, are people just getting better or fully revovering? How many are commiting suicide because they are no longer fully recovered? How many shared that they commited suicide?
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PT 2:

People do both. People fully recover and some people only get incrementally better as time passes. Speaking for myself I’ve noticed some slight changes in ability, to articulate, and in thought since I was first injected. Off the top my head I know about 5 people who have committed suicide from Invega. Some due to mental issues unrelated to Invega and some due to the conditions Invega puts you under
 
RisperdalConsta50mg said:
Yeah sure, they damaged my brain when I was completely fine, normal and healthy. I can’t keep this agony and i don’t accept to live a nerfed life since i never killed, i never raped, i never hurt noone.
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But this is ok we are like 8’000’000’000 people on this planet, it’s ok if one go away because They damaged his brain without any reason, and nobody cares honestly.
 
Trueart2 said:
Suffering from Invega is a really tough time in people’s lives and multiple people have indicated it’s the pinnacle of suffering they’ve ever faced for themselves. I don’t think people who don’t comeback to these forums after they’ve recovered should be penalized or criminalized for not coming back. All one can truly do while recovering from Invega is wait, exercise, and take some supplements.
People returning to give us stories about it won’t change the fact of the matter and it doesn’t make the situation better for any of us, it just projects a false image of making our situation more bearable because we’d have more people here.

As long as the people in the past left their traces of information(which they did by posting about it), then I have no qualms against them. I think if you want encouragement you have a duty to yourself to research through the history of these forums.

History is the best qualifier for understanding.
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I most likely would have commited suicide by now if it wasnt for the encouraging words of the ones who recovered. If i do recover, i will surely let others know that they can too. I will also try to raise a voice against invega and the criminals who whoforce it on people. Even hold a public protest if i can. I will do it maybe because i have a lot of empathy, even though invega made me lose a lot of it. I am sure people who recovered that come here to talk to us and on other forums do have a lot of empathy as well. People not showing up really makes me wonder if they ever recovered or left this world.
 
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