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Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v11

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lukeflowz said:
Seeing how my family want to help me but they can’t hurts me. My father tends to recycle the same advice of I just need to think positive and that, I’m in control of my thoughts. In reality this medication interferes with my thinking and is almost by default negative. I sincerely hope that time will heal.
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That is perhaps one of the worst feelings. Nobody can truly understand what we went through or going through right now, not even the people that love us the most. But having them show the effort in support is better than nothing. And i understand the guy that got pissed at me earlier, the "just be positive" gets irritating. But we really have no other option. Being locked inside your own brain is fucked up. But im just saying having experienced it, i was sure i would never recover. Am i 100%, no. But not in brain lock anymore. I hope my encouragement comes off differently than others who have no idea what this is.
 
I don’t know if any of you are spiritual or religious but I used to believe in God and I still do but I don’t believe God would ever condone the use of these drugs… it makes me feel so wronged. For them to make a drug that literally severs your connection to spirit and the divine. Insanely cruel.

Whatever they’ve done goes against nature. It’s a violation so monstrous and evil…

I feel like I’ve been defiled.
 
rawbanana said:
I don’t know if any of you are spiritual or religious but I used to believe in God and I still do but I don’t believe God would ever condone the use of these drugs… it makes me feel so wronged. For them to make a drug that literally severs your connection to spirit and the divine. Insanely cruel.

Whatever they’ve done goes against nature. It’s a violation so monstrous and evil…

I feel like I’ve been defiled.
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They are convinced it helps. Psychology and psychiatry are very new schools of thought and their methods are still very crude. They do not intend to do evil, but its really anger inducing when you tell them you are sufferimg and they dont care. Or when you tell them these new side effects youve developed SINCE the medication and they try to tell you these are side effects of your illness and want to give you even more medicine. I learned to keep my mouth shut and just cross off the days on the calendar.
 
Switch to a private psychaitrist immediately if your doctor is not listening to you. They have to answer to you because you are their customer.
 
dont.jump said:
Switch to a private psychaitrist immediately if your doctor is not listening to you. They have to answer to you because you are their customer.
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In alot of countries you dont have this option. No private shrinks here. Thankfully i have a very understanding shrink
 
dont.jump said:
Thats terrifying.
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In the psych ard i was forced to not only go cold turkey off life threatening doses of benzos and morphine but also go 3 months with being psychotic and having cotards syndrome because my quack shrink in there refused to give me any meds. I shit you not i didnt even get a advil in there for 3 months

Thankfully i managed to get another shrink after gettng tossed in solitary for like the 6th time
 
One stategy if you reach a stone wall with your shrink, is to play reverse psychology. The doctor wants to think "yes i cured this person" so tell them when you see them "im doing great. I feel wonderful. Im improving." Everytime. Domt give them a reason to assign these med sideffects to a mental illness. Just let them think they are a wizard who cures you until your CO expires. Tell them you want to contimue treatment voluntarily so they dont extend it the CO. When it expires tell them you are moving to another doctor. Or schedule appointments and miss them. And GTFO there.
 
Put UD next to all your signatures you have to sign. Means under duress. No document is legal if you signed under duress. You can use this later if you plan to sue. Make it small so it goes unnoticed. When these documents get shown as evidence of your consent at court point to the UD. Just an idea.
 
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Seeing how my family want to help me but they can’t hurts me. My father tends to recycle the same advice of I just need to think positive and that, I’m in control of my thoughts. In reality this medication interferes with my thinking and is almost by default negative. I sincerely hope that time will heal.
dont.jump said:
That is perhaps one of the worst feelings. Nobody can truly understand what we went through or going through right now, not even the people that love us the most. But having them show the effort in support is better than nothing. And i understand the guy that got pissed at me earlier, the "just be positive" gets irritating. But we really have no other option. Being locked inside your own brain is fucked up. But im just saying having experienced it, i was sure i would never recover. Am i 100%, no. But not in brain lock anymore. I hope my encouragement comes off differently than others who have no idea what this is.
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im grateful you came back to this forum. Hearing it from someone who has been injected with Invega is different, as you potentially know what we’re going through.

Thanks for coming back, it’s given me hope I might have some positive change coming 4 month mark.
 
Reforms needed:
#1. You should not be commited if you have not proven yourself to be a direct danger to others. Danger to yourself should not matter. I believe people have the right to live unsafe if they choose. If you are threatening or commiting acts of violence to others, that may be different. Natural law, which is the foundation of all freedoms im the west states " you have not committed a crime if you did not harm or injure another person or property" therefore your liberty has no right to be deprived

#2. If accused of being a damger to others evidence must be provided.

#3. Once committed you shall have access to the internet and phone everyday. You shall be able to see all the phone numbers of local attorneys and be able to call them in business hours and when they call back it is required that they give the phone to you. No communications shall be monitored.

#4. All documents they ask you to sign in the ward must explicitly state your consent is voluntary and you may not be compelled or coerced or made to believe you cannot leave without signing.

#5. You cannot be transfered to another facility without your consent unless a minimum of 1 year has passed.
You can not be transfered without consent if court is pending.

#6 No medication can be administered without your consent in the ward. They must provide you with a detailed report of all sideeffects from the manufacturer and THIRD party. They must provide you with consumer reviews from a 3rd party.

#7. It shall be illegal to require you to take medication to leave. All doctors must try to recover you without medicime first and give you 1 year to do it.

#8. You have the right to switch doctors and challenege your diagnosis. If another doctor has a different opinion in favor of a sooner release, his shall override.

#9. A hotline for a 3rd party must be provided to report abuse from staff which they shall investigate.

#10. It must be required that you are able to contact any of your friends amd family or lawyer at anytime.

#11. You must also be allowed a minimum of 30 mins outside everyday for health purposes.

#12. Your friends and family can petition your release.


Just a start.

And also you shall be provided with a calendar, pen, and notepad, and a clock. You shall be told the date every morning. You shall also be provided printed updates on all internal notes from all staff.
 
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dont.jump said:
Reforms needed:
#1. You should not be commited if you have not proven yourself to be a direct danger to others. Danger to yourself should not matter. I believe people have the right to live unsafe if they choose. If you are threatening or commiting acts of violence to others. Natural law, which is the foundation of all freedoms im the west states "if you have not committed a crime if you did not harm or injure another person or property" therefore your liberty has no right to be deprived

#2. If accused of being a damger to others evidence must be provided.

#3. Once committed you shall have access to the internet and phone everyday. You shall be able to see all the phone numbers of local attorneys and be able to call them in business hours and when they call back it is required that they give the phone to you. No communications shall be monitored.

#4. All documents they ask you to sign in the ward must explicitly state your consent is voluntary and you may not be compelled or coerced or made to believe you cannot leave without signing.

#5. You cannot be transfered to another facility without your consent unless a minimum of 1 year has passed.
You can not be transfered without consent if court is pending.

#6 No medication can be administered without your consent in the ward. They must provide you with a detailed report of all sideeffects from the manufacturer and THIRD party. They must provide you with consumer reviews from a 3rd party.

#7. It shall be illegal to require you to take medication to leave. All doctors must try to recover you without medicime first and give you 1 year to do it.

#8. You have the right to switch doctors and challenege your diagnosis. If another doctor has a different opinion in favor of a sooner release, his shall override.

#9. A hotline for a 3rd party must be provided to report abuse from staff which they shall investigate.

#10. It must be required that you are able to contact any of your friends amd family or lawyer at anytime.

#11. You must also be allowed a minimum of 30 mins outside everyday for health purposes.

#12. Your friends and family can petition your release.


Just a start.
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In the ward we where on it wasent that bad. You had internet, a phone there, takeout as often as you wanted, weed and cigs. You wherent allowed the weed and cigs technically but they cant stop everyone
 
paranoid android said:
In the ward we where on it wasent that bad. You had internet, a phone there, takeout as often as you wanted, weed and cigs. You wherent allowed the weed and cigs technically but they cant stop everyone
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Dude mine you were an absolute prisoner. No going outside, no cigs, no take out, no internet, not even a clock. I had to makena calendar to keep track of the date. They will ask you the date and if you answer incorrectly it is proof that you are mentally unwell. Some members of the staff were very abusive. Mainly nurse techs who were there to collect a paycheck and get off on their power trip over you.
 
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