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Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v11

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Matthew01 said:
What do you think of people who were falsely diagnosed? Can they recover?
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I think that permanent damage is not possible because the brain keep adjust itself until 60yo. It’s seem permanent because usually when we had something we recover quick like Fever or a broken bone or a cut.. this time it may take 1-2 or even 3 years. I don’t think they can give drugs that make permanent brain damage like candy. The only thing is reach 18 months then 24 months and see what happen.

The best thing is distract ourself, sometimes it’s impossible, sometimes we can do that.
 
RisperdalConsta50mg said:
I think that permanent damage is not possible because the brain keep adjust itself until 60yo. It’s seem permanent because usually when we had something we recover quick like Fever or a broken bone or a cut.. this time it may take 1-2 or even 3 years. I don’t think they can give drugs that make permanent brain damage like candy. The only thing is reach 18 months then 24 months and see what happen.

The best thing is distract ourself, sometimes it’s impossible, sometimes we can do that.
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Tonight i played a little bit battlefield and i distrac myself for some hours, then I talked a little bit with some people on discord then I listened some song on YouTube, now i go to sleep. We cannot do nothing to recover in some days or some week, we just have to wait. Everybody Who talk about recovery from injections talk about 2 years..
 
RisperdalConsta50mg said:
Tonight i played a little bit battlefield and i distrac myself for some hours, then I talked a little bit with some people on discord then I listened some song on YouTube, now i go to sleep. We cannot do nothing to recover in some days or some week, we just have to wait. Everybody Who talk about recovery from injections talk about 2 years..
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It’s seems that teenagers (until 20-22 years) take 8-12 months to recover, 22-30 yo take 1.5-2 years, maybe 30+yo take 2 years to 3 years, idk. But young people tend to recover quickly than old people, i’am 29 so maybe it may take 2 years to feel better or normal again and maybe 3 years to full recovery.
 
rawbanana said:
Getting through my days is so difficult
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I feel you, yesterday i had the worst day of my 15 months, days like that make me want to kill myself. Today was always a torture but not like yesterday. If you don’t feel nothing then is permanent damage, but since you feel all your sympthoms then its your brain that known he have to adjust himself. Even if its hard its a nice things that you have sympthoms because this is your brain that tell you “something here is not right”’and it will keep adjust over time until you will heal.

Permanent damage mean that you don’t feel nothig, any kind of change, nothing at all, this is permanent damage, but if you feel the damage then this is your brain that is trying to heal himself.
 
RisperdalConsta50mg said:
I feel you, yesterday i had the worst day of my 15 months, days like that make me want to kill myself. Today was always a torture but not like yesterday. If you don’t feel nothing then is permanent damage, but since you feel all your sympthoms then its your brain that known he have to adjust himself. Even if its hard its a nice things that you have sympthoms because this is your brain that tell you “something here is not right”’and it will keep adjust over time until you will heal.

Permanent damage mean that you don’t feel nothig, any kind of change, nothing at all, this is permanent damage, but if you feel the damage then this is your brain that is trying to heal himself.
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People Who got permanent damage they don’t realize what they have lost, because it’s simply not more here, but since we know what is wrong now this mean our brain don’t have forget his baseline because is still there, it only take a lots of time.
 
RisperdalConsta50mg said:
I feel you, yesterday i had the worst day of my 15 months, days like that make me want to kill myself. Today was always a torture but not like yesterday. If you don’t feel nothing then is permanent damage, but since you feel all your sympthoms then its your brain that known he have to adjust himself. Even if its hard its a nice things that you have sympthoms because this is your brain that tell you “something here is not right”’and it will keep adjust over time until you will heal.

Permanent damage mean that you don’t feel nothig, any kind of change, nothing at all, this is permanent damage, but if you feel the damage then this is your brain that is trying to heal himself.
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I can feel a difference between today and August. It’s easier to compare to several months back… I’m feeling like I might start to feel better in a few months.

I played some badminton outside today and it was easier to move my body around. I didn’t feel as weighed down as I felt last time I played.
 
Has anybody lost and regained visual stimulation from women, either in real life or through pictures. For me it has not come back 4 1/2 months from my last injection.
 
AmazingGrace7 said:
Has anybody lost and regained visual stimulation from women, either in real life or through pictures. For me it has not come back 4 1/2 months from my last injection.
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Sexual attraction starts to come back in spurts… 4.5 months is still too early in my opinion. I’m 9.5 months out and still it’s not really back to normal but it’s better than it was
 
Idk what is happening to me, yesterday i felt a little bit positive, but today i came to wake up realizing that today i reached 15 months and nothing is changed.. I think these injections are the new lobotomy. After a while someone just let it go how he used to be before and get used to his new condition and this seems recovery to him..
 
They don’t have these injections inside the psych ward where i was, they ordered them from the outside and it takes some 2 days for them to be delivered, like “usually we don’t keep anymore lobotomy in the psych ward but eventually we can order them if we need them”.

As you can recall, the psych ward were you was they had these injections already or they had to order them from the outside and it taked a while before they got delivered?
 
anonymoususer777 said:
Poverty and scams are present in many different places. Deliberate malcious evil, where any opportunity to destroy a life is availed is a different story and that is what i noticed in this culture. A person living in poverty can still have amoral compass but certain people have no moral compass or conscience or humanity and i have aproblem with such people. I fell victim to malicious evil, envy, andlack of humanity.
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It's pretty weird that you think a whole group of people are evil. I've heard people say similar things about white people just because some of us are extremely racist, but we know it isn't true, we are not inherently evil just because of things our ancestors did or white privilege or whatever.

I don't think your psychiatrist did it to ruin your life, he did it in self interest.
 
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The fact is that things never got back on how they were before these injections. This mean permanent damage aka lobotomy. I’am 15 months today, i have not recovered my pre-injections function.
 
@khaverim7 Healed.
Had two injections, total of 350mg.
Recovery Story
Honestly I gained even more from the experience -- the suffering was for me a trial by fire. After the dust cleared I was able to gain a paradigm in life again. I am very well off now, compared to where I was while getting Invega-Sustenna out of my body, but even compared to my normal life before that.

I was diagnosed with brief PTSD and BPD (brief psychotic disorder) but it was well determined that I had no permanent mental defect. I had already graduated college by the time I had my 'episode' which led doctors to think Invega Sustenna was a good idea. What I frankly, really, needed was love. Just time, love, compassion, healing -- all these things were gratefully provided through my parents and others, especially a pastor and dear friend.

I can say that from the initial BPD and Invega injection, starting about a week or so after, I had serious depression -- yes, depersonalization. The way I phrased it was that I "lost my paradigm". I didn't have a basis of rational thought -- a foundation from which to build a worldview. It's like it left me when the drug altered my physical mechanism for thinking. I developed a very pessimistic, nihilistic, and almost atheist thoughtlife, and it haunted me for a long time.

All that said, yes, after 6 months it began to improve. The first 6 months were literally horrible, and I believe you when you say you have suffered and are suffering. For a time in the first couple months I had a strong uncontrollable impulse to get up, and pace/walk, as if to escape my body and thoughts.

After a full year I really was beginning to re-develop a sense of self and placement in existence. I read the scriptures (Bible) a lot more. Before the BPD I had read it entirely but Ecclesiastes in particular meant a lot to me in this time. My intelligence has been fully restored (if any were lost or altered in the first place). I'm firing on all cylinders. Eating well and a daily vitamin can only help you, even if the motivation is not there, you have to fight it. Do fight it. You can make it. I and others certainly have. I remember talking to a guy that said he suffered the same things from Invega but after 2 full years was totally back into a normal "swing of things".

What you (or anyone suffering from a temporary and especially unnecessary treatment with Invega Sustenna) need to know is this: You can and will get through this. I assure you that you may believe it is impossible, because so did I, but it is not impossible. The human body, mind and soul are absolutely glorious is their composition and capacity to heal.

Eat well, intentionally do good for yourself. Fight it. Pray. Pray desperately -- read scripture, do what you must, do what you can. Feel free to message back. I may not get around to responding immediately but I assure you I will make the effort eventually. As of now, I'm in graduate school working on a Ph.D. Nothing is impossible to him that believes, so do not lose faith in a full restoration.

If interested here's a thread I posted back in the thick of it: http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/712455-Life-itself-bothers-me
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