Mental Health Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v 8.0

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I quit invega cold turkey with 2 loading dose injections I had less than half of the pills after the hospital and stopped it because of the negative side effects it gave me will i be ok? So far everything been ok other than sleep and emotions and my body feels weaker.
 
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That reaction isn't extreme or damaging to the body, it's brain translating suffering into pain. That pain can be extreme, undescribable and unimaginable and for many invega sustenna users it is. As someone who has had it I can say I wouldn't want it to my worst enemy.
im sorry you had that man i heard its extremely painful, praying god stays with us
 
xeplion hell this is proof even people who had burning brain pain can recover anhedonia like you have 60-70 percent it gives me some hope hopefully i will have some recovery i hope 95-100 percent only 4 months off man last dose was 156+156=310mg
 
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That reaction isn't extreme or damaging to the body, it's brain translating suffering into pain. That pain can be extreme, undescribable and unimaginable and for many invega sustenna users it is. As someone who has had it I can say I wouldn't want it to my worst enemy.
I agree....it was awful for me.destroyed my brain.
 
The other thing I noticed is I feel like I can’t fight anymore because of lack of anger. Anyone else feeling this
 
This is messed up but what if i donated blood and then told them after what I had been injected with , would that help it get out of my system ?
 
This is messed up but what if i donated blood and then told them after what I had been injected with , would that help it get out of my system ?
i was thinking the same thing but its probably mostly out of your system by now you said you have some improvement so just wait until its completely out of your system and then the 4-5 months after for your brain to go back to normal
 
With 5 shots you need to wait 6-8 months to start seeing that gradual improvement. At least from my research. Was it two loading doses then 5 months of shots after or two loading fosses then 3 months of shots ?

None the less I would expect you to start seeing improvements around day 180
my friend is 6 months off says very little improvement i am 4 months off and fear i will be like him
 
Just reposting cause i know how hard it was being on long acting shots it was the hardest time in my life, but I got better after 1 year to 1.5 years. Just be careful of rebound pyschosis when going cold turkey. I'm on Geodon now I enjoy normal things again socializing, working, going to school. I defiantly can feel coffee, weed, alcohol and music sounds good again.
 
Wondering when you recover do you get a dopamine rush?
I hear people talk about rebound psychosis. If what goes down comes back up do you get manic after its out of system?
Wondering is the psychosis just delusions or with the high feeling.
Bc going off the pills the next day is usually high energy and dopamine feely
 
You must have it easy to say that, lucky you, you only took oral APs. What were doses of risperidone you were taking since that's the strongest AP of ones that you took. Paliperidone is much stronger than risperidone with more wide mechanism of action (targets more types of receptors), not to mention invega sustenna(paliperidone) is depot with overkill dose.

This is not a competition. And risperudone is not the strongest medication I was on, I was dosed up on 900mg of seroquel XR as someone who weighed 60kg.

I am extremely sympathetic towards this cause. I actually do not support wide use of psychiatric medication.

It is frankly somewhat absurd for you to say that because I took oral AP medication, including being megadosed on a medication that caused me to become so zombiefied I could barely crawl out of my bed for 3 weeks, that i do not understand side effects from AP medication.

I could say that since you only had two shots, and I've been medicated since I was in my mid teens through until almost being 30, that in fact you lack experience regarding the side effects of AP medication. I've been on lithium, valproate, seroquel, ability, lamotragine, lurasidone, risperidone, prozac and mirtazepine.

Most importantly, like many people in here, *I never actually needed to be on all these meds*, much less multiple at one time (my biggest dose of meds was 1500mg valproate, plus risperidone, plus abilify, AND lamotragine, AND seroquel.

I would be shocked to see anyone function on that amount of AP medication, and it is wildly unreasonable to claim that I lack understanding of these class of medication because I took a different form of it.

A lot of people posting in here seem to be concerned about two main points.

1 - their sexual function being negatively affected, which is something that ALL AP meds do, all SSRIs, essentially all psychiatric medications. This will go away relatively quickly after cessation of the medication.

2 - not being able to feel the effects of illicit drugs. Again, this is par for the course for all of these types of medication, and as above, ceases when medication ceases.

TD is a HUGE issue with being on these medications LONG TERM. It's not surprising to me that given you have only had two shots (and I say only not in the sense that having two is okay, but that you have not been medicated with these drugs for an extended period of time), that you don't have any concern about TD. As someone who was on psychiatric meds for a decade, and until my misdiagnosis got fixed, would have continued to remain on medication indefinitely for the remainder of my life, the risk of TD is immense. I count myself extremely fortunate that I didn't experience it.

Given your short exposure to AP meds, this issue isn't at all a risk for you. But that does not mean it isn't a risk for those of us who have been unnecessarily medicated with stupidly strong medications for no real reason at all.
 
This is not a competition. And risperudone is not the strongest medication I was on, I was dosed up on 900mg of seroquel XR as someone who weighed 60kg.

I am extremely sympathetic towards this cause. I actually do not support wide use of psychiatric medication.

It is frankly somewhat absurd for you to say that because I took oral AP medication, including being megadosed on a medication that caused me to become so zombiefied I could barely crawl out of my bed for 3 weeks, that i do not understand side effects from AP medication.

I could say that since you only had two shots, and I've been medicated since I was in my mid teens through until almost being 30, that in fact you lack experience regarding the side effects of AP medication. I've been on lithium, valproate, seroquel, ability, lamotragine, lurasidone, risperidone, prozac and mirtazepine.

Most importantly, like many people in here, *I never actually needed to be on all these meds*, much less multiple at one time (my biggest dose of meds was 1500mg valproate, plus risperidone, plus abilify, AND lamotragine, AND seroquel.

I would be shocked to see anyone function on that amount of AP medication, and it is wildly unreasonable to claim that I lack understanding of these class of medication because I took a different form of it.

A lot of people posting in here seem to be concerned about two main points.

1 - their sexual function being negatively affected, which is something that ALL AP meds do, all SSRIs, essentially all psychiatric medications. This will go away relatively quickly after cessation of the medication.

2 - not being able to feel the effects of illicit drugs. Again, this is par for the course for all of these types of medication, and as above, ceases when medication ceases.

TD is a HUGE issue with being on these medications LONG TERM. It's not surprising to me that given you have only had two shots (and I say only not in the sense that having two is okay, but that you have not been medicated with these drugs for an extended period of time), that you don't have any concern about TD. As someone who was on psychiatric meds for a decade, and until my misdiagnosis got fixed, would have continued to remain on medication indefinitely for the remainder of my life, the risk of TD is immense. I count myself extremely fortunate that I didn't experience it.

Given your short exposure to AP meds, this issue isn't at all a risk for you. But that does not mean it isn't a risk for those of us who have been unnecessarily medicated with stupidly strong medications for no real reason at all.
you know how many months after cessation will those 2 things return not everyone is recovered as soon as its out of their system!
 
you know how many months after cessation will those 2 things return not everyone is recovered as soon as its out of their system!

I never said that. I said it stops when the medication is ceased, and it does. Faster for some people than for others.

If these are your main concerns then that's your prerogative. As I mentioned, because I have actually been on AP medication or some form of psychiatric medication since my mid teens (literally half my life) I am much, much more concerned about the potential *permanent* side effects as opposed to the type of side effects which are par for the course for these meds.

Obviously I am aware of the extent of side effects from AP medication. Being loaded up on 4 different psychiatric meds at a single time, several of which are highly sedating, absolutely resulted in me having a very detailed understanding of how these meds work, and what coming off them is like.

Frankly, the difference between a depot injection and being megadosed on numerous oral AP medications at the same time, is not very significant.

I would like to be able to just worry about my sexual dysfunction or my mood etc, but until my bipolar diagnosis got changed I had accepted that the end of my life was going to be being likely functionally brain dead, if the psych meds ended up fucking my brain up. I'm extremely lucky that I no longer have that diagnosis, and can instead explore other, healthier, natural ways to manage my symptoms from mental illness.
 
I never said that. I said it stops when the medication is ceased, and it does. Faster for some people than for others.

If these are your main concerns then that's your prerogative. As I mentioned, because I have actually been on AP medication or some form of psychiatric medication since my mid teens (literally half my life) I am much, much more concerned about the potential *permanent* side effects as opposed to the type of side effects which are par for the course for these meds.

Obviously I am aware of the extent of side effects from AP medication. Being loaded up on 4 different psychiatric meds at a single time, several of which are highly sedating, absolutely resulted in me having a very detailed understanding of how these meds work, and what coming off them is like.

Frankly, the difference between a depot injection and being megadosed on numerous oral AP medications at the same time, is not very significant.

I would like to be able to just worry about my sexual dysfunction or my mood etc, but until my bipolar diagnosis got changed I had accepted that the end of my life was going to be being likely functionally brain dead, if the psych meds ended up fucking my brain up. I'm extremely lucky that I no longer have that diagnosis, and can instead explore other, healthier, natural ways to manage my symptoms from mental illness.
then why isnt peoples sexual dysfunction going away as soon as its out of their system
 
then why isnt peoples sexual dysfunction going away as soon as its out of their system
Let me repeat what I said.

"said it stops when the medication is ceased, and it does. *Faster for some people than for others.*"

That means that some people will experience a relatively quick recovery from AP medication, and others will experience a very protracted recovery.

At the end of the day, sexual dysfunction DOES come back. As does mood, energy etc.

Tardive Dyskinesia is *permanent* and if you end up with it, that's it, in most cases. The vast majority of people who experience TD cannot just stop taking the medication, because they require it more often than not. I resigned myself to the fact that had I not been correctly diagnosed with something entirely different to bipolar, that I would have lived out my senior years suffering TD as a result of psychiatric meds that stopped me unaliving myself, but at huge cost to my physical well-being.

This is the reality for people who take AP meds, either depot or oral, for protracted periods of time. This is not a two shot of AP depot issue. I would find it difficult to believe anyone has ever gotten TD from only two depot shots and if they did they would be the most unlucky person in the world.

The side effects that I am largely concerned about experiencing, are permanent, and a result of 15 years of non stop AP medication.

Frankly I'm stunned that you find it so easy to brush aside the experiences of someone who has been on strong psychiatric meds at high doses for such a long time, regardless of the mode of delivery of the medication.

But that's just me. Honestly, it just takes time. I don't know what else to say. It's taken me a significant period of time to have my brain fog even slightly reduce, and when I was on lithium it caused me to actually have to fucking piss CONSTANTLY to the extent that it actually caused me to develop a habit of refusing to go anywhere if i didn't know for sure a cubicle was free.

Seroquel causes astronomical weight gain, as well as (in elderly patients) an increased risk of alzheimers and dementia.

I care more about the possibility that I could end up with dementia, than not being able to jerk it everyday.
 
Let me repeat what I said.

"said it stops when the medication is ceased, and it does. *Faster for some people than for others.*"

That means that some people will experience a relatively quick recovery from AP medication, and others will experience a very protracted recovery.

At the end of the day, sexual dysfunction DOES come back. As does mood, energy etc.

Tardive Dyskinesia is *permanent* and if you end up with it, that's it, in most cases. The vast majority of people who experience TD cannot just stop taking the medication, because they require it more often than not. I resigned myself to the fact that had I not been correctly diagnosed with something entirely different to bipolar, that I would have lived out my senior years suffering TD as a result of psychiatric meds that stopped me unaliving myself, but at huge cost to my physical well-being.

This is the reality for people who take AP meds, either depot or oral, for protracted periods of time. This is not a two shot of AP depot issue. I would find it difficult to believe anyone has ever gotten TD from only two depot shots and if they did they would be the most unlucky person in the world.

The side effects that I am largely concerned about experiencing, are permanent, and a result of 15 years of non stop AP medication.

Frankly I'm stunned that you find it so easy to brush aside the experiences of someone who has been on strong psychiatric meds at high doses for such a long time, regardless of the mode of delivery of the medication.

But that's just me. Honestly, it just takes time. I don't know what else to say. It's taken me a significant period of time to have my brain fog even slightly reduce, and when I was on lithium it caused me to actually have to fucking piss CONSTANTLY to the extent that it actually caused me to develop a habit of refusing to go anywhere if i didn't know for sure a cubicle was free.

Seroquel causes astronomical weight gain, as well as (in elderly patients) an increased risk of alzheimers and dementia.

I care more about the possibility that I could end up with dementia, than not being able to jerk it everyday.
Then why do we hear about people that still have anhedonia etc YEARS later after stopping aps ?
 
So I just want to throw this out there. I've seen every doctor from harvard,yale,columbia, and cornell and all of them said I was by bi polar and dismissed my MRI's.Low behold a scientist from India found the damage in my brain yesterday.My Hypothalamus, pituatary and pineal glands are all damaged to a high level.Pituatary not so bad but the others are in bad shape.He says he can get me better but not perfect.If he helps me I will gladly pass his name on to all of you.
 
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