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Mental Health Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v 8.0

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Does anyone have anxiety, if so, how do you cope with it? Is there supplements that you use.
 
Davievargie said:
Does anyone experience intense anhedonia? I wake up every day feeling numb and like a zombie with nothing to look forward to. I’m approaching 4 months off the medicine and have seen no improvements with numbness /feeling happy and excited to do activities. Will I recover eventually??…
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Where is the panic? Only 4 mnths off.. Hold on man, its a jurney. And stay positive🙏❤
 
cmf77 said:
Mine is getting better.Mine goes from 9pm to 4am.
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Hey have you had any improvements last couple months ? If so what helped ? Haven’t checked in for a few months so not sure how everyone is doing , I’m still dim deep shit , no improvements 13 months after last injection
 
Davievargie said:
Does anyone experience intense anhedonia? I wake up every day feeling numb and like a zombie with nothing to look forward to. I’m approaching 4 months off the medicine and have seen no improvements with numbness /feeling happy and excited to do activities. Will I recover eventually??…
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I felt nothing from playing video games a few months ago. I get pleasure from music occasionally, but I still can't continually listen to music for pleasure any time I want to. Like right now I don't feel much from music, but I might tomorrow. I didn't have strong anhedonia after invega for very long, but now that I have PSSD I had it really bad. Now I have no problem watching TV or playing a game, it's more moderate but I wouldn't call it mild yet. I feel better socially too.
 
My period might be late, again. I've had several signs of anovulation. Was anyone else's periods heavy and late before they went back to normal? I want my ovulation to be normal, I want to have a child before I'm 35 if I get a good job. I also think it would help my PSSD.
 
I feel for all of you suffering.It is criminal what these slobs did to us.I don't know why all of you let these cocksucker doctors get away with this.I know I'm letting this piece of shit get away with what they did to me.
 
cmf77 said:
I feel for all of you suffering.It is criminal what these slobs did to us.I don't know why all of you let these cocksucker doctors get away with this.I know I'm letting this piece of shit get away with what they did to me.
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I'm going to say something that won't be popular...

Going after the Doctors will just burn your energy. This one you have to let go. I would love to find every person that is dealing with this, form a coalition, and bring justice to the whole industry of psychiatric care, that's heavily based on pseudo science... but it's not going to happen and everyone needs to accept it. You'll drive yourselves mad thinking of revenge, i did for a long time.

This chain of pseudo science started around the 70s, where the 'Typical' (not a-typical/2nd generation, which we had) psychiatric medications emptied out the massive mental asylums. This was just a huge cost saving, and the chemical lobotomy replaced the physical one (ice pick to the tearduct approach). Look into JFKs sister if you want to see how they did it, another tragedy for that family name. Since then it's become a profit loop, and the doctors are just too stupid to know any better.

The pharmaceutical industry who profits from the drugs being sold, write the education these doctors get, fund the research (and Bury it if they find opposition to their drugs), privately funded research is rare or has too few trial subjects to make an impact... the government approval process has pharmaceutical associated persons high up in their ranks, pushing approvals through despite contradictory information being erased from the evidence...

You see how big this issue is. The doctors are just like religious fanatics, they've been taught all along that this stuff works. So you can attack them but they won't know why, they'll never believe what you're saying because 50 years of bs has been injected directly into their education, which they worship as absolute. Those who break ranks and realise there's a horror happening get hounded by billionaire companies and ranks of doctors that have a 'faith' educated to them about the meds... have you ever tried to break the faith of a fanatic? Blind belief, it just burns your energy and nothing will come of it.

Put it out of mind. Once you bounce back and feel on form, organise a rebellion against it, but do it quietly... they will come to stop you. You would need to setup a thousand WhatsApp encrypted group chats, which they would try to infiltrate. They'd try to claim you were causing harm by making people question their medication. Every death would be placed at your feet... etc etc etc etc.

The best idea i could think up was a film... you could make a series of films about this, with a good story, and expose people to the idea of this nightmare... not a documentary (They would stop that claiming false narrative), but a 'fiction' so heavily laced with the actual reality that entrapped persons in the system would universally hail the film as true to life en mass. I can think of no other way to sneak it under the radar into mass understanding.

Save your energy for now, it will just burn your soul to think of it over and over again... most psychiatric consultants are idiots, they won't change, they're fanatics... save your mind from that fight. They'll only use it against you. And if one patient succeeds they'll be strengthening the rhetoric of the industry to drug people into lobotomy like ability for public safety.

If you're going to do this, be an actual genius about it or just do nothing until you have that plan in place.

Your lives though, do what you want, you don't have to listen to me... just my two pennies worth.
 
dontGiveUp said:
I'm going to say something that won't be popular...

Going after the Doctors will just burn your energy. This one you have to let go. I would love to find every person that is dealing with this, form a coalition, and bring justice to the whole industry of psychiatric care, that's heavily based on pseudo science... but it's not going to happen and everyone needs to accept it. You'll drive yourselves mad thinking of revenge, i did for a long time.

This chain of pseudo science started around the 70s, where the 'Typical' (not a-typical/2nd generation, which we had) psychiatric medications emptied out the massive mental asylums. This was just a huge cost saving, and the chemical lobotomy replaced the physical one (ice pick to the tearduct approach). Look into JFKs sister if you want to see how they did it, another tragedy for that family name. Since then it's become a profit loop, and the doctors are just too stupid to know any better.

The pharmaceutical industry who profits from the drugs being sold, write the education these doctors get, fund the research (and Bury it if they find opposition to their drugs), privately funded research is rare or has too few trial subjects to make an impact... the government approval process has pharmaceutical associated persons high up in their ranks, pushing approvals through despite contradictory information being erased from the evidence...

You see how big this issue is. The doctors are just like religious fanatics, they've been taught all along that this stuff works. So you can attack them but they won't know why, they'll never believe what you're saying because 50 years of bs has been injected directly into their education, which they worship as absolute. Those who break ranks and realise there's a horror happening get hounded by billionaire companies and ranks of doctors that have a 'faith' educated to them about the meds... have you ever tried to break the faith of a fanatic? Blind belief, it just burns your energy and nothing will come of it.

Put it out of mind. Once you bounce back and feel on form, organise a rebellion against it, but do it quietly... they will come to stop you. You would need to setup a thousand WhatsApp encrypted group chats, which they would try to infiltrate. They'd try to claim you were causing harm by making people question their medication. Every death would be placed at your feet... etc etc etc etc.

The best idea i could think up was a film... you could make a series of films about this, with a good story, and expose people to the idea of this nightmare... not a documentary (They would stop that claiming false narrative), but a 'fiction' so heavily laced with the actual reality that entrapped persons in the system would universally hail the film as true to life en mass. I can think of no other way to sneak it under the radar into mass understanding.

Save your energy for now, it will just burn your soul to think of it over and over again... most psychiatric consultants are idiots, they won't change, they're fanatics... save your mind from that fight. They'll only use it against you. And if one patient succeeds they'll be strengthening the rhetoric of the industry to drug people into lobotomy like ability for public safety.

If you're going to do this, be an actual genius about it or just do nothing until you have that plan in place.

Your lives though, do what you want, you don't have to listen to me... just my two pennies worth.
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Psychiatry comes from the Liberals and the fucken Joos, it does go look it up and it's really evil. I know how to take them down though. Get the conservative Christian Right pissed off at them that they want to chemically lobotomize and castrate their children and especially the part where they push all of that transgender bullshit on the kids. I think a day of reckoning will be coming where psychiatrists are just gonna be getting slaughtered.
 
Dre87 said:
Psychiatry comes from the Liberals and the fucken Joos, it does go look it up and it's really evil. I know how to take them down though. Get the conservative Christian Right pissed off at them that they want to chemically lobotomize and castrate their children and especially the part where they push all of that transgender bullshit on the kids. I think a day of reckoning will be coming where psychiatrists are just gonna be getting slaughtered.
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I understand your particular angle, however there are a lot of varied reactions to this system.

There are a lot of cases where the non-compliant youth or family member who doesn't have the same beliefs as the parents can have the system used against them to supress them. I read a lot of cases over the years from Conservative America where the family (sometimes evangelical hard wing) will have their differently minded kids chemically treated to stop them leaving home when they come of age.

It's not one classification of people but a range of profiteers that have learnt this perpetual loop generates about $8BN a year, to share between the corporations and stockholders - often politicians.

Your suggestion that a religion finds it useful is not completely without merit as the type of mind that they treat was traditionally thought of as potentially a prophet, but they would be the smartest schizophrenics (theoretically). Such characters have previously upset entire religious doctrines, such as Muhammed and Jesus, a rebellion which continued into billions of followers. If anything, the judaic following would hope for a character of such nature to re-ignite the growth of their collective. However in the modern age, the prophet is on YouTube... the game has changed.

It's just one take of mine on potentially what might be happening to try and give context to your insight. This would be near impossible to prove. One way might be to check the method of treatment towards people in Israel and if they attempt to prevent medicating their citizens due to reported loss of spirituality from many people in the system. This would be blasphemy to them and they would potentially fight it.

Interesting thoughts. However without evidence it would just be conspiracy theory and if you ever told that to a medical professional, they would put you in the line of fire for hospitalisation. Be incredibly incredibly cautious.

Further note to not treating doctors antagonistically for their treatment of you: they will be able to tell your disdain for them and translate that to an antagonistic personality which requires treatment. The last few times i was very nice and even joking with them, i was released in a week after initial observation. When i historically approached the subject of the fallacy of the science they practiced it is received very poorly and they will keep you for months. They think your lack of faith in their education is due to conspiracy theory also... you see how this is a trap! DON'T FALL FOR IT.

Be nice, and calm. Even if they try to medicate you, you can at least avoid a court order on release. Be compliant. You'll get out and drop the meds of your own accord, do not engage further with the system. Claim you've moved or are too busy working away to meet them. They can't do anything. Beware of family, they just blindly believe the doctor and if you spout conspiratorial rhetoric they'll call someone to take you away. Hide your thoughts, this is a politicians mindset, keeping cards close to your chest. People simply don't need to know what you're thinking.

Once again, your life, your choice. Just be aware that people fall for propaganda, and that is against your perspectives.

This is really a rabbit hole of a subject, don't burn your energy. Rest, relax, get better, focus on your locale, make your world small for now.

Edit: Think less of this as a political compass (Authoritarian/Liberal; Left/Right), it is more to do with generational beliefs divided by ageism.
 
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Dre87 said:
Psychiatry comes from the Liberals and the fucken Joos, it does go look it up and it's really evil. I know how to take them down though. Get the conservative Christian Right pissed off at them that they want to chemically lobotomize and castrate their children and especially the part where they push all of that transgender bullshit on the kids. I think a day of reckoning will be coming where psychiatrists are just gonna be getting slaughtered.
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- Community treatment orders: The medical ASBO.

Here. This is a discussion about CTOs and treatment with psychiatrists on different sides of this debate. It's an insight into psychiatric thinking in Europe. Now imagine the Americas version (far more brutal) in comparison. Also, Notice how many questions have their answers cut out of the video... very disturbing.

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Oh the thing i was trying to point out by this video is how the idea of 'preventability' as to public harm by psychiatric patients was used by the pharmaceutical industry to keep people in hospitals and medicate them in the public via court. There's no evidence that this actually prevents enough harm to justify the discrimination and infringement on freedoms imposed on the potentially mentally ill person (which in turn has no solid backing to prove). THIS is the new POWER they've found to get you around 2010... No one is questioning it. It sells a multiplier of meds you can calculate.
 
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