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Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v 12
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Wow, barbell curls at 215. That's impressive! Yeah, bench put a lot of strain on my shoulders too. I was doing 315lbs for a few reps at my peak.
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Ya i actually got really severe muscle spasms in my neck from doing bench presses years ago.vThey didnt stop tilll i got put on clonazepam for anxiety then the spasms pretty much stopped. Clonaz is abit of a muscle relaxant so it figures.
Benching 315 while being natty is insane dude. Your goal should be to bench more then 315 now
Deleted the reply cause I understand, thank you …
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Just got 2 hours of shut eye last night, and I don't even feel tired as a result. This is so weird...
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I feel like my heart has gotten so hardened because of this drug. I don't have the range of emotions I'm familiar with which is very frustrating. It's like this drug takes away your soul...your way of expressing yourself naturally is just taken away.... so unfair....
I am no Doctor. I’ll tell u what i know.
•The Baseline of you is like one of those X,Y Graphs in School…
•You’re on the 0 Y (no height or drop) and travelling along the X direction along to the right…
•So you gave a norm of up and down a bit, really bad times might make it drop to Y-12, elation +11, (euphoria is maybe 12…
•Meds flatten that, and you are limited to +/-1…
•So your Brain sees that and starts trying to make Receptors, some are blocked…
•The Drug blocks the new ones…
•Body sees that and says: ‘Something in the Environment is Chemically Suppressing the Receptors’ (Evolutionary Defence System, 200 Million, or more years of evolutionary technology, Human Form)…
•Biological Backup System Starts: Grey Matter starts to path ‘You’ and ‘thinking’ via a backup path, it’s not the normal cortex areas, its building new stuff. Stuff that can’t be blocked btw, the Law wouldn’t allow it…
•You acclimatise…
•Then when the meds wear off you might have 2 systems, it can be overwhelming…
•One Normal System, and another one built new in Grey Matter…
I can’t be sure, I tried to study what happened to me…
Not easy…
•The X,Y Graph has reasserted itself, you maybe get your +/- 12 back, then you have another 12 with the new routes, so +/-24, it can become Hyper/Hypo -manic…
I thought the excess 12 was maybe a thing not realised by Doctors yet. I have a little geek knowledge…
Instead of suppressed I thought maybe the conflict was excess…
Other possibles:
•Calcification of Dopaminergic Centre, which means you have no reward system. Which makes life kinda pointless.
>Targeted Ultrasound Therapy following an MRI, (A Leica Machine — GerMAns!
— (Because some people find the brand General Electric Spooky in Psychiatric Realms for some reason, another observation, big brand silly conspiracy theory association maybe)…>>Anyway, Targeted Ultrasound or Some Medication to De-Calcify the Dopaminergic System so you have Reward Feelings back could be assessed by a non-psychiatric Doctor/PhD/Professor, so they’re not in the same field as Doctors you maybe gained question-mark for…
•Could be Stored Medication in Fats released at a not normal rate are confusing your biology. (Fats Burning Medication might actually help here, it could clear it up)…
I am not recommending anything without you consulting a Medical Professional… Let’s you Sue someone if they poop up, ha! (Don’t say this in the Consultation, haha, they’ll panic)!
Usually it’ll fall into either your Body is still rerouting the Grey Matter Backup so you have no reward as the Calcification suppressed your Reward system…
I tried to come up with a De-Blocker for the receptors, Higher Affinity Stuff that Jettisons the Blockade and simply acts as a conduit for the original receptor (Higher Affinity will make the Receptor Occupant Blocker Leave). I haven’t had time to work on it, an issue would be that the Nerve has been trying to replace Receptors at such a rate is like a flower bed on your nerve and they’re all blocked off (an issue is if it is an irreversible suppressant, like a welded chemical blockade, which in my understanding is not actually Legal Medication as it is a Nerve Agent), they need Ultrasonic Disintegration of the Blocker or by another Mechanical Means that is not disruptive to any other Body Systems or Tissues…
Big Pharma has not much clue how Mind Systems are truly mapped out. They don’t know Advanced Chemistry, but they think they do. Science at this level is prone to avoiding at what they don’t understand as it is a chunky paycheque but a person is suffering as a result and they are watched because of this, it is commonly recorded. These types of meds are sold as Medication-For-Life through Health Diagnostics Manuals they have a hand in writing, but when profiting from the sales you cannot Legally do that, it is Illegal. They have done it regardless.
A lot of Modern European STEM Chemistry is Withheld from Big Pharmaceutical Companies for these reasons.
I have studied this in depth for around 7 years now. Ask away. I am a good Geek, I focus on these topics. I look towards a solution where the sullen feeling is treated quickly and normal is regained but never changed…
I highly advise anyone with substance issues to just declare it in hospitals if you go there. A Doctor, not necessarily Nurses, so ask to talk to a Doctor privately(!!!), they will keep your confidentiality by Practice. You can mention your issue and they will treat you accordingly, no Legal avenues will be actioned against you!
They cannot inform Police or Parents unless you are under 18 USA, 16UK&EU.
You can still request confidentiality due to possible recourse from a family member, if under 16/18, they will Legally have to oblige.
If you do not declare this (PRIVATELY PLEASE WITH NO OTHER NON-DOCTORS PRESENT — Which is actually Legally better for Non-Doctor Staff (anyway), they will assume your Normal has not been seemingly affected by anything and it is not a substance Pushing you but a normal Failure of your Body which they will Treat like there is no Drug.
You can ask if they have to keep your confidence before the conversation, if they won’t you can request someone who will. If there is no one you can write a formal complaint at the Hospital, because is simply not possible for there to be no one who will at a hospital or they you can’t see them.
Indicate Subtly that your Parent, if in the room, cannot be there, so you can privately chat.
Recourse from family is a common thing that has caused issues up to News Reported incidents that they will always avoid as it can make them Liable. Non Doctors Must Leave By Law. Training Doctors, them tell them to FUCK OFF AND FUCK THEMSELVES HARD AND leave also for Legal Reasons!
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They cannot inform Police or Parents unless you are under 18 USA, 16UK&EU.
You can still request confidentiality due to possible recourse from a family member, if under 16/18, they will Legally have to oblige.
If you do not declare this (PRIVATELY PLEASE WITH NO OTHER NON-DOCTORS PRESENT — Which is actually Legally better for Non-Doctor Staff (anyway), they will assume your Normal has not been seemingly affected by anything and it is not a substance Pushing you but a normal Failure of your Body which they will Treat like there is no Drug.
You can ask if they have to keep your confidence before the conversation, if they won’t you can request someone who will. If there is no one you can write a formal complaint at the Hospital, because is simply not possible for there to be no one who will at a hospital or they you can’t see them.
Indicate Subtly that your Parent, if in the room, cannot be there, so you can privately chat.
Recourse from family is a common thing that has caused issues up to News Reported incidents that they will always avoid as it can make them Liable. Non Doctors Must Leave By Law. Training Doctors, them tell them to FUCK OFF AND FUCK THEMSELVES HARD AND leave also for Legal Reasons!
{EDIT: Spelling Correction]
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Quite an assessment. Can you please simplify options for helping my brain somehow overcome these meds, both the Invega withdrawal & current sleep meds. Thanks. Don't worry, I won't sue you.I am no Doctor. I’ll tell u what i know.
•The Baseline of you is like one of those X,Y Graphs in School…
•You’re on the 0 Y (no height or drop) and travelling along the X direction along to the right…
•So you gave a norm of up and down a bit, really bad times might make it drop to Y-12, elation +11, (euphoria is maybe 12…
•Meds flatten that, and you are limited to +/-1…
•So your Brain sees that and starts trying to make Receptors, some are blocked…
•The Drug blocks the new ones…
•Body sees that and says: ‘Something in the Environment is Chemically Suppressing the Receptors’ (Evolutionary Defence System, 200 Million, or more years of evolutionary technology, Human Form)…
•Biological Backup System Starts: Grey Matter starts to path ‘You’ and ‘thinking’ via a backup path, it’s not the normal cortex areas, its building new stuff. Stuff that can’t be blocked btw, the Law wouldn’t allow it…
•You acclimatise…
•Then when the meds wear off you might have 2 systems, it can be overwhelming…
•One Normal System, and another one built new in Grey Matter…
I can’t be sure, I tried to study what happened to me…
Not easy…
•The X,Y Graph has reasserted itself, you maybe get your +/- 12 back, then you have another 12 with the new routes, so +/-24, it can become Hyper/Hypo -manic…
I thought the excess 12 was maybe a thing not realised by Doctors yet. I have a little geek knowledge…
Instead of suppressed I thought maybe the conflict was excess…
Other possibles:
•Calcification of Dopaminergic Centre, which means you have no reward system. Which makes life kinda pointless.
>Targeted Ultrasound Therapy following an MRI, (A Leica Machine — GerMAns!
>>Anyway, Targeted Ultrasound or Some Medication to De-Calcify the Dopaminergic System so you have Reward Feelings back could be assessed by a non-psychiatric Doctor/PhD/Professor, so they’re not in the same field as Doctors you maybe gained question-mark for…
•Could be Stored Medication in Fats released at a not normal rate are confusing your biology. (Fats Burning Medication might actually help here, it could clear it up)…
I am not recommending anything without you consulting a Medical Professional… Let’s you Sue someone if they poop up, ha! (Don’t say this in the Consultation, haha, they’ll panic)!
Usually it’ll fall into either your Body is still rerouting the Grey Matter Backup so you have no reward as the Calcification suppressed your Reward system…
I tried to come up with a De-Blocker for the receptors, Higher Affinity Stuff that Jettisons the Blockade and simply acts as a conduit for the original receptor (Higher Affinity will make the Receptor Occupant Blocker Leave). I haven’t had time to work on it, an issue would be that the Nerve has been trying to replace Receptors at such a rate is like a flower bed on your nerve and they’re all blocked off (an issue is if it is an irreversible suppressant, like a welded chemical blockade, which in my understanding is not actually Legal Medication as it is a Nerve Agent), they need Ultrasonic Disintegration of the Blocker or by another Mechanical Means that is not disruptive to any other Body Systems or Tissues…
Big Pharma has not much clue how Mind Systems are truly mapped out. They don’t know Advanced Chemistry, but they think they do. Science at this level is prone to avoiding at what they don’t understand as it is a chunky paycheque but a person is suffering as a result and they are watched because of this, it is commonly recorded. These types of meds are sold as Medication-For-Life through Health Diagnostics Manuals they have a hand in writing, but when profiting from the sales you cannot Legally do that, it is Illegal. They have done it regardless.
A lot of Modern European STEM Chemistry is Withheld from Big Pharmaceutical Companies for these reasons.
I have studied this in depth for around 7 years now. Ask away. I am a good Geek, I focus on these topics. I look towards a solution where the sullen feeling is treated quickly and normal is regained but never changed…
Any sense of what kind of doctor to seek out?
Yeah, sorry bro, I don't feel my heart either. No spirit or soul left for sure. I can say things or express things or experience things, but I'm not 'connected' to them like I was before. Insidious sh*t.
i had 10 mins sleep for 2 or more months last time i was injected invega
Are you on any drugs now? Yeah, it felt good being that strong. Even though I wasn't at that level before the Invega fallout, I was still naturally strong, working my property, building stone walls,
planting trees, yada-yada. We'll see if I ever get back to that, at this point it ain't looking good. I need to find some kind of advanced 'brain' medicine to figure this catastrophe out. Any ideas?
That's crazy that Invega is causing y'all insomnia. Is that a typical symptom? I got insane insomnia from the Invega withdrawal. Damn, I used to sleep 8-9 hours straight, like clockwork. Monsters.
I’m just a tech Geek, not a Doctor…
I did some study on this stuff:
Sitting thinking of how things are not right will induce a part of Evolution that says your Locality is Attacking you so Fight or Fight will Engage, or Resignation.
I did this:
• Event Happens: Not the correct Feeling from Memory…
>>> KEY: Memory does have a catalog of what is correct though.
• Event Happens: Not Correct Feeling: Focus on Memory That Recalls How I Should Feel: Brain Plasticity Adapt.
>>> Postulation: Grey Matter Uses Ancient Evolutionary Template Naturally to Invoke Grey Matter Replacement System…
• (I) Practice(d) this for 9 Months: 80% Recovery: Was enough to simply Get Through It…
• Slowly things come back: otherwise you need to check Dopamine Production Areas and Serotonin Production Areas, the latter would be ‘do you still enjoy food?’.
I had a Cousin of Invega: It was a full Reward Systems Wipe Out. Everything Pointless, I simply Watched Old TV from Childhood to Adulthood Recalled that I could remember the old sensations of watching from Memory.
Games were pointless, I got nothing.
Invega was an attempt to prolong a Patent for a drug that was available for next to nothing: Generic Risperidone, (Zyprexa Branded, Johnson & Johnson — another Company I think from what I can see just added some crap onto the existing Molecule, it should need 10 years of Trials before Approval, the Timeline for Invega is Not Such (!!!). They used a different Molecule and said it was like Zyprexa to gain approval with a differing Molecule (This is what we class as DIRTY CHEMISTS, money for Zombie Suffering, like Death, no Economic BENEFIT for the Nation and a cash Cow for life). Something was afoot… Beware this Rabbit Hole!!!!! There’s Angry Old Money Frothing about such Information Being Openly Available!
It seemed to Break FDA regulation Conduct Completely, a different Molecule is Completely Different in Pharmacokinetics and cannot be treated as though it is any other drug by modulus: you would need 2% difference of atomic weights as a minimal Bar of one Comparison along with others, this one is much bigger in difference. Like LSD, minuscule amounts have profound effects. The Legality is not seemingly normal about this Approval of it. Approval for off standard Treatment (Dementia, yes I said wtf also) with little to no viable Testing done from investigation of the notation, test results appear skewed and the Statistics fabricated, visible to a good Maths Geek. Trial notes were not traceable and lack conduct. There’s a lot of this sort of thing!
Apologies for the Slightly Conspiratorial Sounding Themes, I just found a lot of Data this Subject. It is… Interesting. Never indicate that you know anything much regarding this, it is best to seem oblivious, like I am, ‘ohhh, how ConFUsiNg!’.
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Honest questi
Do you think I have a chance of getting better after 9 invega shots? The last one was on 30th June @ 50mg. My 8th dose was during the end of May @75mg. I'm on a CTO. I had a meeting with the psychiatrist in June about the anhedonia I was having. I asked if I could switch to aripiprazole, but his response was "I wouldn't recommend it since we're lowering your dose anyway." You think I should have been firmer and said in response "I don't want your recommendation, I'd like aripiprazole please"? I was getting better towards the end of June, with my appetite coming back, and starting to enjoy things again, then on 30th June I got the shot and it set things back to a level I've not known. I have no appetite and just eat to live. I've lost interest in things and I feel I have cognitive impairment. I said to the nurse who was administering the injection "Is it okay if I don't take this" and she said "No Brendan, you're on a CTO, you have to take it." I just wish I had made myself more clear with the psychiatrist and pushed to take aripiprazole. Will my appetite go back to normal?
I would look for a Plaque Specialist, also anytime who knows MRI scanning of Arthritis will know the Radiology Doctrine and MRI Scan Particulars to understand such a type of Suppressing Biological Interference as Calcification would be.
It might be that an Anti Caking Natural Body Compound is suppressed by the drug which prevents Calcification of Plaque forming around the Dopamine System, if so the Dopamine System may go offline to protect itself until Natural Body Chemistry can form a repair/Unwanted-Matter-Clean. Theoretically a slight increase in Acidic like Lemon Snacks, with REAL FRESH Lemon Juice (beware excess Lemon Juice will made your Stomach Acid Reject it, you’ll barf)… A slight PH change might be enough to slowly Work the issue if it is found from scanning. Lessen Calcium in your diet, Less Cheeses and Milky, Dairy etc. If you have Psoriasis that is Plaque of Joints repelled to Skin Membrane (it seems). A similar function is desired for displacement of Dopaminergic System Calling and Suppressive Matter, this would be a Good Hearted Chemists Role, they can likely formulate a plan. The issue is in Brain Areas strategy of Natural Biological Evolutionary Repair Mechanisms are different due to its Critical Function…
Once again, this is theoretical but I had some improvements. I am just a keen observing Geek about this sort of stuff.
Highly likely this is simply the Dopaminergic System is Suppressed somehow. Investigation and rectification will allow the sensations of Rewarding Feelings in everything from Getting up to eat all the way to a Warm Embrace, as should be felt. Likely the Reward Systems have Fortresses themselves to Protect against what the Body Thinks is you as a Cave Person travelling through a Toxic Environment area. It doesn’t have Pills and Bricks and Roads in its Programming. That’s the closest you will get. If your Fats have Stored any of the Chemical, it will keep it locked down.
So we have:
Fortress Protection
Or
Calcification/Matter Suppression
Or
Receptor Fused and Over Saturated Nerves with Receptors
Or
Grey Matter Plastic Adaptation Suppression…
Or a Combination…
I’m trying to work out the Easiest ways to solve this…
Damn y'all, it's getting tougher & tougher to get through the day, nothing to do (I know it's my choice, but I just can't connect into any meaningful hobbies or activities, I'm in a perpetual thick fog of memories & misery, nothing at all to look forward to, time after time of nothing but severe suffering, desperately wanting to get better, desperately wanting to get off these 'sleep' meds... How can my brain heal from the first med when I'm being 'doubly' drugged with these meds?! I think I'm ready to rid myself of these two poisons, come what may, insomnia, etc. Any thoughts?
The Body is Built on Fields and Fundamentals of Physics of Cosmos. In Engineering, it can always be Modulated to be what you expect but not outside of the Physics.
That means, likely it can be repaired or a built in Evolutionary Embedded Natural Fix will attempt to fix it and will simply need you to provide it with the correct Vitamins, Minerals, Salts, Sugars and Hydration also Elements, Iron for example. Mapping out what the Body is attempting is the Key.
Things like Cravings are an Indicator. I know it sounds odd but the Bathroom Smell @ number 2 actually programs you for Diet for a few days, you know what you require. Always Drink Plenty of Water, but not Excessive, don’t over work your Kidneys or Bladder, you need those to last. Be aware of any Aches and Pains, remember the locations of Headaches. Drink plenty of Water, have enough Salt, have enough Sugar, those three are Essential for Repair. Sleep as much as possible, you get 50% of that back in lifetime added on at the end anyway. Promote Repair. Catalog your Sensations of what I have written and anything else of note. Please avoid Highs, nothing will replace the Dopamine System. Naturally you have a healthy amount, Dopamine, Serotonin and Endorphins. Highs simply make you think that natural amount is too little as you train yourself up for excessive amounts and the Brain Protects itself thinking you are in a hazy area of Plants and you can’t get away from it. Look up the Hot Hand Rule.
Things like Weed, Cave persons ate once, a bit, then it made them feel ill, then they know the smell is to be avoided, programming for Toxins in an area, that’s what that is for. Remember back then in that state you could be eaten, they would avoid it.