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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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Day 105

I'm trying to fix my irregular sleep rythm. Waking up at 11.30 am isn't what I want. Inconvenient for work and college.
My sleep is getting better, motivation and enjoyment coming back. Cognitive impairment are less visible and there are days when I feel happy as I can be.
Something I've noticed is that my perception of time has changed these last 6 months. Is it because of depression or Invega Idk. Time is going by fast, too fast. Is it the case for some of you?
 
Has anyone here managed to work or go to school while on inVega or while waiting for it to be out of your system? I have to take 6 jabs of inVega because my mom won?t let me change states. I?m not on cto or court order cause I didn?t hurt anyone while being psychotic but my pdoc refuses to let me switch medicine because he is a swine who deserves to see his mother raped and father tortured. I?m going away in December and will change to fluanxol shot until I finish my last semester in spring that is from January until April, because the university pdoc won?t allow me to continue my studies if I don?t take the shot. Thankfully in my country we can take our foundation certificate and switch to another university with that, and that?s what I?m going to do.

My memory is so poor that I?m afraid that I won?t be able to memorize classes and lectures. I used to have crystalline memory I?d remember all my classes even after years. I don?t have anhedonia just depression and anxiety and ocd and not being able to feel peace or contentment because of a lack of dopamine and serotonin. Other than that three months in on the shot and I still can watch tv and have fun poking at the people on reality shows with my brothers.

Just a tip (maybe someone here has already mentioned it but il just say it again): coffee helps my bad mood and if I don?t have coffee I just take Artane which gives me some peace of mind. Artane is an antiparkinson medicine they gave me for my akathisia.

Is a month enough time for my memory to at least improve somewhat? I read on other forums that memory and brain fog are the first things to go away, is a month time enough to recover at least some memory? See if I don?t do well I can?t switch colleges.
 
Rosi ive been following this thread for weeks now and read almost everything.

Some people were on it for one to three years and most recovered within a year. You only had he two loading doses. I don?t think you?re still dealing with inVega. I think it may be your stroke and the lost of your baby that has made you this way. You complained of memory problems earlier if I?m not mistaken and then you said that it?s not that bad anymore, I think your no longer dealing with inVega.

If what happened to you happened to me I?d be emotionless and empty and anxious too. I?m sorry you lost your Elias. Go to a doctor and list your problems, I?m sure they can help you, and also hemp oil helps with brain atrophy, do use that.
 
ShadyPenguin, if I'm honnest with you memory improves by the end of the recovery. The first three months, there's no visible improvement involving the memory. At least, that's how it went personnally.
 
Zack thanks for replying me btw. I wrote a super long post explaining everything and thanking you but the site logged out on me before I could post it and now I lost my post. With my memory being poor and all I can?t recall what I posted, lol sorry.
 
All right guys I don?t want to be like beesinthetrap so I?m only going to ask this once more with more clarity: zack says that his memory improved in the fourth month, and I want to know when did yours improve? I know everyone is different but can a few of you give me a rough gauge?

Invega user, how many jabs did you take? (I remember reading but Ive forgotten cause with my current memory skills I forget a lot). One year? Are you taking anything else, other psychiatry meds? Are you close to completely healed? What month are you at now? I think you?re healed considerably because based on your posts you?re so creative and intelligent. And you have no shortage of thoughts as your posts are so lengthy.

Irridiscent, sorry if I?m wrong but I think the reason you?re not feeling completely healed is because you?re taking zyprexa. Although it?s not as strong as fucking hellish inVega curseana, it also gave me mild anhedonia. Also it made me put on loads of weight. The mild anhedonia is usually what made me go off it and relapse. I took 5mg for five years. Even after going on it for so long, I hardly got used to zyprexa although my weight did plateau. Was diagnosed at seventeen now will be twenty two in a few days. Don?t quit zyprexa though, it?s one of the ones with fewer side effects except weight gain. Mild anhedonia I can live with.

Guys and girls here?s my story. Please don?t be like me. I was diagnosed five years ago and put on zyprexa. I kept complaining that it made me dull and uncreative although the evidence to the contrary was staring right at me. On zyprexa, although I had mild anhedonia, I was funny, the life of the party, wrote two feature length script in two months, sold my children?s novel for 3k dollars to a publisher. I?m not bragging, I?m just trying to show you what I did on zyprexa. Now I have cognitive and memory issues, slight anhedonia, suicidal ideation and my dreams to write a novel every year and become like Stephen king are gone. I want to die so badly, someone kill me please because I believe if one kills themselves they will go to hell.

I hate myself so much. My previous doctor spoiled me rotten and didn?t threaten me even when I did not take my Meds or when I scolded and expressed contempt for her. Now I moved to a different state and have a new doctor who won?t take me off inVega even when I told him it is making me suicidal. Tell me how to escape the system.

Trouble with me was that I kept wanting more. I directed a school play, had the girl of my dreams, had plenty of friends and my lecturers constantly told me how bright I was. But I wanted more. So I went on ariprirazole and it was the biggest mistake in my life. It gave me psychosis and I thought my mom was planning to kill me so I hit her. They warded me and I was forced on inVega sustenna. I?m in the government health care system now and I?m planning to escape it to a private clinic since I have no cto, court orders or criminal record against me. So don?t go off your meds, stay on them. The slight anhedonia on zyprexa is nothing compared to what I have on inVega. If they still chase after me when I make the switch to diff universities and doctors I will file a civil lawsuit.

Ps: I tried niacin to cure my schizophrenia and it didn?t help, and the flush was too much for me to bear. so like I said if you truly have a condition, don?t go off your meds. Find another Med but don?t go off it, have a relapse and be forced on inVega like I am.

Love,
Shadypenguin
 
shadypenguin said:
Has anyone here managed to work or go to school while on inVega or while waiting for it to be out of your system? I have to take 6 jabs of inVega because my mom won?t let me change states. I?m not on cto or court order cause I didn?t hurt anyone while being psychotic but my pdoc refuses to let me switch medicine because he is a swine who deserves to see his mother raped and father tortured. I?m going away in December and will change to fluanxol shot until I finish my last semester in spring that is from January until April, because the university pdoc won?t allow me to continue my studies if I don?t take the shot. Thankfully in my country we can take our foundation certificate and switch to another university with that, and that?s what I?m going to do.

My memory is so poor that I?m afraid that I won?t be able to memorize classes and lectures. I used to have crystalline memory I?d remember all my classes even after years. I don?t have anhedonia just depression and anxiety and ocd and not being able to feel peace or contentment because of a lack of dopamine and serotonin. Other than that three months in on the shot and I still can watch tv and have fun poking at the people on reality shows with my brothers.

Just a tip (maybe someone here has already mentioned it but il just say it again): coffee helps my bad mood and if I don?t have coffee I just take Artane which gives me some peace of mind. Artane is an antiparkinson medicine they gave me for my akathisia.

Is a month enough time for my memory to at least improve somewhat? I read on other forums that memory and brain fog are the first things to go away, is a month time enough to recover at least some memory? See if I don?t do well I can?t switch colleges.
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It's doubtful but not impossible.
I think other people here have done it.

about 6 years ago (I was on Risperdal Consta then), I remember being in a dark room at night, high, and I couldn't remember where the fuck I was in relation to anything. Thanks Invega/Risperdal. Not to try and get your hopes down. After all, my situation was different. I had recently smoked legal incense and that - with the Risperdal - basically turned my mind into a big sack of useless jelly. So every subsequent time I got high on weed, the problem would get worse for the duration THC was in my system. I think you can see where I'm going here. Don't smoke weed in your studies and you'll have more success.

A quick Amazon search could find you a book on how to improve memory. I found one and it was very helpful for getting me through some of the Invega trial.

shadypenguin said:
Irridiscent, sorry if I?m wrong but I think the reason you?re not feeling completely healed is because you?re taking zyprexa. Although it?s not as strong as fucking hellish inVega curseana, it also gave me mild anhedonia. Also it made me put on loads of weight. The mild anhedonia is usually what made me go off it and relapse. I took 5mg for five years. Even after going on it for so long, I hardly got used to zyprexa although my weight did plateau. Was diagnosed at seventeen now will be twenty two in a few days. Don?t quit zyprexa though, it?s one of the ones with fewer side effects except weight gain. Mild anhedonia I can live with.
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"curseana"! hah. I got a kick outta that.
No. I really don't think so. Can't answer as to exactly why but it doesn't have a huge effect on me. And I think I stopped having anhedonia a couple years ago.

Not many of you have taken as many doses of Invega as I have so you can stop worrying about whether or not or why I'm not healed yet. I've chosen to not disclose any details regarding a 'recovery story'. I already made that mistake in a post and the Invega came back with a vengeance. Whether I'm healed or not is no longer something I will discuss.
 
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^ curseana. me too. haha.

@shadypenguin: your going to be ok.

first things first, welcome to the thread. there is something we can't do here and that's tell you what to do as far as your mental health goes including escaping the system. i'm sure your aware of this from already reading everything, we can let you know of what has worked for us, our opinions and help any other way we can.

thanks for sharing. you got a lot of info in there and i think it's best we take it one or two steps at a time as we're not all as quick on the uptake as robe11 is, though some of us are doing quiet well in the healing process and will soon start putting in our applications with mensa, various think tanks or university.

are you talking suicidal like figuratively or literally?

you mentioned a few psych meds there. would you mind telling us if you remember if these meds {zyprexa(olanzapine), invega (paliperidone) and aripiprazole (abilify)} were injection, pill or both?
 
shadypenguin said:
Trouble with me was that I kept wanting more. I directed a school play, had the girl of my dreams, had plenty of friends and my lecturers constantly told me how bright I was. But I wanted more. So I went on ariprirazole and it was the biggest mistake in my life. It gave me psychosis and I thought my mom was planning to kill me so I hit her.
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I recall a third party research team that found ADHD medications and Abilify causes mood disorders and psychosis.

I'm curious. How soon was it after your psychosis that you were medicated again? From what you posted it seems like immediately after? I'm just wondering because it seems odd to me they would label you schizophrenic if your psychosis was brief. I was under the impression it's the case that someone becomes schizophrenic when their psychosis goes undetected for weeks or months.
 
@hoffsteader: very nice. see, they don't point a gun to a puppies head and demand you take the meds or else. joking aside... defining down hill is one thing, proving it is a whole nother thing, cross that bridge when you come to it. we'll be here for support any way we can. don't be intimidated by stories both here and in other places and instances. he is trying to help adjust so you can get what you need to be successful (if he is doing his job correctly) so working with them is to your benefit. i.e. showing them your not going down hill is proof of this. i'm sure you already knew the risks but he has to do that legally speaking as well as if he is a good or ethical doctor. i'm sure you took it as such from your post.

great news! if i may, from our talks in the other invega thread i noticed that what you experience through your own words while on effexor is nothing too terrible. i did address some of your concerns about invega but i don't honestly think effexor is going to cause the same complications as invega does. i'm no doctor, just giving you outside perspective. agree on not quitting it for now. again, great news!

@Hellohihey2: (sorry ladies, i really can't resist myself) no tits. no tits to begin with so no tits to lose. no when, where and how to subside on topic of tits (sorry, i just like tits). i've had every other side effect withdrawal symptom sexually speaking other than that and what women go through. might i suggest pills, creams, exercise and lawsuits to look into my man. when your fully healed they will come off quicker cause your body and brain are set on a program until your healed. lots of those who have come before us and healed said they go away or are getting better. working out now wouldn't hurt and helps the healing process. progress not perfection. if i had "bitch tits" like bob (robert paulson) i would let anyone on the poison cry into them so they could sleep better at night.

speaking of sleep. i got to bed late last night, or early this morning i should say. less than 5 hours but still feel great. might have to nap again today. and yes, naps for me during the comedown off any psych meds and sometimes drugs let's me know it's almost done. like SJW some people here go through that and some don't. on note of cold showers, i agree. i noticed that during the summer months when i would take a cold shower during the heat. good recommendation.

p.s. i thought the same about the needle emoji but some in the past expressed concern about it being a sensitive topic so i let each new batch decide for themselves.

@Rosi71: your still under the two year mark. keep working at those things you said you wanted to happen. how about that journal? people like zack365 and others in the past have made entries everyday whether here or on paper. it's a good way to keep track of progress, ok?

@Empty1128: coffee not possible today. gonna use today to gauge healing process due to lack of sleep and how i respond to it. we'll see what happens tomorrow. you still with us?

@iridescentblack: anything i want to PM you about?! really?! what if i want to ask whether you enjoy nylons or garter belts?! how about super bowl fun facts?! can we dish, dish, dish on the latest barbie video game?! (ppsstt, what if it's really embarrassing like that incident with ants and strawberry jelly?!)
 
@LifeAfterInvega: that's why people originally started calling it waves and windows. those terms are not completely accurate but close considering the very nature of invega/xeplion is like getting rid of an unwanted house guest. good observation.

we all find solace here in each other and we all have our own individual way of getting through this. i see your line of thinking and it's just more evidence for me not to include what day i'm on. i'd hate to depress the crap out of everyone. :|

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I guess...just...Hang in there Everybody!
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well said. thank you and you too.

good to hear from you again. how are you doing lately?
 
LifeAfterInvega said:
Also, people on here posting their "by the day# recovery" and percentages are only fooling themselves and future readers. Sorry, but Invega recovery is definitely not by the day or week. It's by months and possibly years for some who recieved multiple shots.
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I disagree. Invega comes through waves and each wave is less and less intense. Plus, if you read my posts, you know I did a lot to speed up the recovery and I'm sure I'm not the only one trying to find new alternatives and sweating like mad.

Now, I know I won't recover from one day to the next but my percentages are pretty accurate, nowadays I'd say I'm between 85-98% recovered and it's accurate simply because I'm close to healed. Two months ago, I wouldn't have beeen able to give any percentage simply because my health was messed up as well as my ability to gauge how good or bad I was feeling. If you can't give any percentage or can't see improvements one week to another is because you're kind of far from recovery.

I was told the third to fourth months is a turning point for those who received one or two shots, it turned out to be true. That's why I'd say I have no more than a 45 days roughly (which gives a total of 150 days) before remission.

Peace
 
Day 106

Sleep wasn't very good this night and my motivation to exercise is low. I also have little waves when I'm having deep sad and anxious thoughts but they don't last more a 2 or 3 hours. Apart, from that, no difference from day 104 and 105.
 
@Steph78: chin up, poison gets the best of everyone, it doesn't discriminate. you are making lots of progress and you will fully heal soon.

i lost my faculties yesterday due to lack of sleep, doing much better today after getting a good nights rest.

@shadypenguin: let me know if i miss anything. yes memory problems go away. people who have fully healed have it return like it was pre-poison, even if they had to work at it a lil after they are healed. my memory is almost fully recovered. some have used luminosity.com and other memory building techniques as a way to exercise their brain; thanks for reminding me, i'm gonna give that a try in the next few weeks. if you can't remember things by the time it's time to go back to school you can try using a recorder or taking notes, once your healed you can review them and brush up on things. we are all different and heal at different rates and in different ways. your memory comes back when it does. take it one day at a time and adjust accordingly.

yes some people can go to school and work while others can't much like how half the people benefit from taking saint johns wort and half do not. it's just an unfair way the poison doesn't discriminate. the most important thing is healing comes first above all else. if you can't attend class or work then once you are healed you will be able to again.

i had 10 months worth or 11 jabs. i do not take anything at this time. no psych meds, vitamins or anything else because of the complexity of my condition and atrophy from taking so long to heal that i want the workings of me to adjust naturally again. i have to hit the ground full sprint once i'm healed and i need to come correct. i've been at this for 5 years and 3 months now. i'm a negative exception when it comes to invega/xeplion so please do not fear this will happen to you. everyone heals in time and i'm working on less is more when posting so thanks for the feedback and yes i remember how hard it is to focus and also create or articulate. it comes back to everyone in time.
 
I?m still on inVega, I have to take it for eleven months, same like you Invegauser. No court order but university pdoc is forcing me on it or else he won?t give me clearance to re enter university. Cruel son of a bitch. Thanks for the assurance, I really do hope I?ll recover in time. I?m switching universities after this last semester so I won?t be under this cruel heartless pdoc anymore. Thanks for the tips.

@irridiscent, I was diagnosed with schizophrenia at age seventeen, my first episode being the longest, it lasted three months. The rest of my relapses have only spanned one month more or less. You had two years worth of jabs didn?t you? Did you take zyprexa immediately after or did you wait awhile? How many milligrams are you taking right now?

I?d like to read about willows progress. She took ten months worth of jabs too.

I don?t have anhedonia, ....I do have memory issues and sexual dysfunction though. Other than that I?m doing quite good actually. Just the memory issues are really getting me super down because I used to have almost photographic memory.

Regards
Shadypenguin
 
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