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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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Hello everyone, I'm new here but I've been reading some of the old threads from 2016 and trying to catch up with everyone but there's just too much here for me to read without devoting a large amount of time catching up on everyone's story. I hope you are all recovering well and I want to hear from everyone.

I am one month off my injection, I've had 8 of them total, can someone tell me please how long it took for them to fully recover? I've seen post as long as 10 months and then I'm seeing people saying they haven't recovered. I'm scared that Invega causes permanent brain damage to my receptors does anyone know if this is true? I'm just coming off the drug now, I am hoping for a speedy recovery, I read that the Invega half life is 25-49 days so the first half life which is 50% should be just about out of my system right?

Any information would be great, thank you and goodluck to everyone recovering.

edit: My dosage was 150mg but then the doctor raised it to 250mg for awhile and then I had to fight with him to get it lowered and tapered off but my doctor told me I had to taper off the shot but I'm quitting cold turkey.
 
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Offvega said:
Hello everyone, I'm new here but I've been reading some of the old threads from 2016 and trying to catch up with everyone but there's just too much here for me to read without devoting a large amount of time catching up on everyone's story. I hope you are all recovering well and I want to hear from everyone.

I am one month off my injection, I've had 8 of them total, can someone tell me please how long it took for them to fully recover? I've seen post as long as 10 months and then I'm seeing people saying they haven't recovered. I'm scared that Invega causes permanent brain damage to my receptors does anyone know if this is true? I'm just coming off the drug now, I am hoping for a speedy recovery, I read that the Invega half life is 25-49 days so the first half life which is 50% should be just about out of my system right?

Any information would be great, thank you and goodluck to everyone recovering.

edit: My dosage was 150mg but then the doctor raised it to 250mg for awhile and then I had to fight with him to get it lowered and tapered off but my doctor told me I had to taper off the shot but I'm quitting cold turkey.
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Welcome offvega

I am 107 days off and feeling good. There days when I feel almost completely recovered and there are days when my mood isn't good, I'm tired, not motivated to get things done...

You got 8 shots, it could take you a year to recover. If you are like me, love sports and try hard to get it out of your system. You could recover in 8-10 months.
 
zack365 said:
Welcome offvega

I am 107 days off and feeling good. There days when I feel almost completely recovered and there are days when my mood isn't good, I'm tired, not motivated to get things done...

You got 8 shots, it could take you a year to recover. If you are like me, love sports and try hard to get it out of your system. You could recover in 8-10 months.
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Hello thanks for the welcome. I am expecting it to take a year, I gained like 20 pounds on this medicine, I don't mind waiting as long as the recovery is going to happen, I'm afraid of permanent damage, but I am glad to hear you're recovered! I can't believe how long this stuff stays in your system for.

I hope you continue to have more good days. I don't really feel motivated to exercise although I gotta lose this weight somehow...
 
Offvega said:
Hello thanks for the welcome. I am expecting it to take a year, I gained like 20 pounds on this medicine, I don't mind waiting as long as the recovery is going to happen, I'm afraid of permanent damage, but I am glad to hear you're recovered! I can't believe how long this stuff stays in your system for.

I hope you continue to have more good days. I don't really feel motivated to exercise although I gotta lose this weight somehow...
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Wow, that's brave. I couldn't handle taking even one more shot. I hope I'll have more good days too.
 
Oh man another stressful week of work and the mind and body failing me. Why can't I handle stress anymore? I know it's a symptom of low dopamine but give me a break. My mouth turns into a desert, my eyes roll back into my head and my mind becomes erratic and can't think clearly. It doesn't happen all the time just when I'm stressed and I have a pretty stressful job at times. I wonder if anyone who has taken invega goes on to become CEO of a company or leader in their respective field, I doubt very much but if I meet someone who has achieved this miracle I would graciously shake their hand. Keep chasing your dreams btw. I do agree to some extent there is no full, absolute recovery because the new receptors formed aren't as good as the original ones, the body doesn't repaired protein structures like dopamine receptors, they recycle them and form new ones. Would be interesting to know exactly how invega leaves the body? Are the original receptors permanently damaged from invega? Are the new receptors as good as the old receptors?
 
Day 108

Last night was tough as I was extremely tired from running and walking 14 km. The annoying thing is that I slept 12 hours but it was bad quality sleep. I'm feeling better except for the sleep part.
At least, I'll consider myself lucky not to go through these things once recovered. That's about the only good point I can take away from this whole experience. I was being lied to when my pdoc said there were less side effects on the injection compared to the pill form. He obviously has never tried that on his own and not heard from the withdrawal effects. At least the pill withdrawal doesn't take more than two or three weeks.
 
Offvega, I?m going to college on it. According to my pdoc they only give inVega to functional schizophrenics as its very expensive. I go to public healthcare and get the jab for free.

I?m not recommending it though. I have anhedonia and poor memory on it, but there are some who are ceos and take the jab, at least according to my pdoc, don?t know how truthful she is.

Also, I have to take eleven jabs, you are lucky you only took eight.

To the room: I?m taking a hundred mg every month, so it shouldn?t accumulate would it? The way I see it it does not cause let?s say the half life is thirty two days ,( I missed a shot and I got a window at day thirty two, that?s how I estimate) once I get my next shot it would be 200 mg but it goes down to 100 again (per half life) in thirty two days so I will keep getting stuck with 100 mg, am I doing the math right?

Invegauser: I was on olanzapine and then changed to aripriprazole because I didn?t want to gain weight, the abilify caused the psychosis that hospitalized me. Doctors there put me on jab.
 
I am curious, what do you people do when waiting this inVega strain out? Did you move back with your parents and take a break from school and work or did life go on as usual and you learnt to cope? How did you pay the bills? Especially to those who has yet to recover after years, seriously how do you earn your upkeep?
 
@Offvega: oh ya, people heal from this. i have yet to meet anyone who hasn't. your asking a lot of questions we all did because you are concerned and that is ok. when the zombie phase kicks in you'll be less focused on if i will heal and more on how can i heal faster. it's ok, we all get better. it's the hope receptor that temporarily gets shut down, when this happens we feel lost and confused. when you hit that first window your going to be confused on how you could have doubt in the first place. when you are healed you will forget almost everything you went through. the mind is funny like that.

yep, some people work, go to school and stay productive (albeit slightly diminished) others are stuck riding a couch. it's just how invega works, it's part of who we are though how this is has yet to be understood. invega/xeplion doesn't discriminate in a lot of ways so we don't either. we just accept and work together to move on.


@robe11: in addition to Empty1128's post - brain recycles itself cell by cell every ten years, though granted the new cells are slightly less as ideal as those in a new born baby i still think they work just fine and other factors come into play on why receptors that are recycled are utilized less by most people in life. i personally believe we never stop learning until we're dead so we can choose to use those new receptors or lose them. until they become completely useless i plan on using every last bit of them until i'm pushing up daisies. (fertilizing something as i'm getting cremated)

the stressed part happens to quiet a few people if not all of us. even this far in healing if i don't get enough sleep or stressed in another way it's like i revert back to an earlier part of the healing process. weird. but i blame mine on atrophy from taking so long to heal.

@shadypenguin: lots of f**king assistance. it's actually quiet embarrassing and one of the hardest things for me to accept (caused me a lot of anger) but i focus on the healing so i can get past this and off the assistance programs. (my injections were all free fwiw). so those meds were they injections? i ask for a specific reason. abilify, invega, zyprexa and haldol injections all have similar and debilitating side effects/withdrawal symptoms. no need to get into which is worse but we have people here and in the past who are suffering from abilify and haldol. some have asked questions who suffer the same while on zyprexa.

i've taken all 4 of those meds in pill form except abilify. i've only ever had one injection psych med. can you guess which one?! all four of those meds only in injection form cause similar suffering and have 4 receptors they target in common.

to those asking about how invega/xeplion works: the injection is usually jabbed into the body where fat is stored so it can be broken down slowly over time and pushed into the blood stream where it gets delivered to the brain. half lives are easy to calculate once we are able to do math again and it's one theory held by some in the past that is used as a sign to let us know when we expect to be healed. others use drugs, some their illness and some the effects/symptoms not bothering them anymore.
 
shadypenguin said:
I am curious, what do you people do when waiting this inVega strain out? Did you move back with your parents and take a break from school and work or did life go on as usual and you learnt to cope? How did you pay the bills? Especially to those who has yet to recover after years, seriously how do you earn your upkeep?
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I haven't been able to work, I can't concentrate on anything for long and I feel dumber on this shit, I'm afraid I won't be able to focus on simple task or keep an attention span without feeling like I'm suffering because of the medicine, I'm only one month off of it still it's one month closer to recovery.
 
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How did you pay the bills?
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It's not right for these doctors to inject us with this stuff without proper compensation for it. There's been talk in this thread about suing those doctors for the money. I think if someone's evil enough to do this to a person we should be given the money freely. We shouldn't have to argue for it.
 
@invegauser I'm unfortunately stuck riding a couch, I'm thinking about doing some volunteer work to get back into the grove of working, but I feel so diminished on this shit, it's hard for me to focus and follow simple instructions. My family said I was like a zombie when I was on the 254mg and my pdoc lowered it down to 150mg but he told me he was going to keep me on the 150mg for three more months, he is evil I am pretty convinced and just wanted to keep giving me invega despite what I complained about and told him, nothing would work, my Dad finally agrees with me that it's time to quit cold turkey because I'm not going to get any better this way.
 
iridescentblack said:
It's not right for these doctors to inject us with this stuff without proper compensation for it. There's been talk in this thread about suing those doctors for the money. I think if someone's evil enough to do this to a person we should be given the money freely. We shouldn't have to argue for it.
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yeah who wants to go through the process of finding a lawyer and getting a lawsuit we probably won't win anyway. This stuff is poison, I can't believe how long it's going to be in my system for and all the suffering i've been through and have to go through and my Dad is just finally coming around now believing invega is bad it took him awhile to realize what it was doing to me.
 
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