Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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^ not overnight, we have yet to find the "antidote". give it a lil time of using a niacin regiment and you might find much improvement in general of the recovery process in addition to being able to enjoy using substances.

@nybryx: you mentioned springing out of bed. i like to take the ear plugs out (cause i sleep during the day) and give it about 10 seconds to just take in my surroundings, enjoy the morning after sleeping again. not too long though, i don't want to get lazy. but after those few seconds i find it is much like pre-invega, very easy springing out of bed. i've been doing this for a couple months now but until i read your post i didn't recognize it, it's even more rewarding now. thank you. soon man, it's a lag and a drag but comedown off any drug isn't pretty (even psych meds), hopefully you get back that spring soon boss.
 
Day 88

I think my endurance is almost back to normal as I ran 14 km/8.7 miles yesterday without taking a break. I had some muscle pain due to invega though. This morning, I didn't feel tired when waking up and it's enjoyable to see progress everyday. 2 days before the three months mark!
 
it gets so quiet on the weekends and twice a year when the season changes you can almost here a mouse fart a pin in a church a mile/km away.

ssshhhhh, listen....

DDDUUUMMMBBBLLLEEEDDDOOORRREEE!!

what did that mouse eat for dinner, a midge on a unicycle?!
 
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seriously though: not sweating as much. pushing myself and getting results as well as things done lately. emotions are more solid in the core and outer rim is fuzzy. did push myself too far today and got dizzy, short of breath and had to sit down. atrophy is a pain in the butt but soon i will be able to push harder without worrying about over doing it. sleep schedule is still adjusting but everything associated with sleep is as pre-invega. numbing head ache still there but dissipating over days at a time, as always with pharmaceutical comedowns.

muscles feeling tense from the poison get replaced with normal energy and tensile strength. meditated first time in 9 years the other day and it was like riding a bike again. some difficulty with retaining memories and attention span is still in constant fluctuation but i can maintain and still function mentally way better than i use to. passive high resistance or tolerance has built up even more. regular high and drunk still there as of a month ago. all internal physiological functions in general are starting to level off on some days.

bad days still happen but fewer and farther between than ever before. got a lot of crap and hate in the head to push through still but all normal for comedown off drugs/meds, especially while withdrawing from something as potent as the poison. re-boudning a lot more off of it so it's not bothering me as much. once everything cycles through this time it would be good if this was it. time will tell. healed when i'm healed.

can't wait to use pain like i use to, would make this healing progress much, much quicker but it's nice being average for once. shooting my t.v., reading books, running, lifting weights as well as new recipes and stopping this tweaking behavior comes next. on second thought might want to hold off on shooting t.v., might need it for some games just for enjoyment. haven't played video games in years, let alone enjoyed them recently because i used them as a distraction.

to game or not to game, that is the question. whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune and rupees, or take arms against a sea of space ninjas and stoner hackers. and by opposing wiping the floor with their sorry a**es? to jump in a metal suit: to save a princess; no more: and by save a princess to say we end the heartache by dropping down assassin style on some clowns head and the thousand natural shocks of stacking candy and produce that flesh will sunder ripped to, 'tis a consummation (with said princess, several of them) devoutly to be wished. to die, to sleep.... ya right. there aint no sleeping and no dying on my game time. work hard and play hard only applies to real life. virtual life equals one thing: we kill it cause that's what we do. [end transmission]
 
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Emptya1128, sounds like your vegan diet is improving your condition. I'm not really surprised as a vegan diet can better detoxification process.

Day 89

Feeling 80-85 % healed. My mind is sharper, I am in general happier and less worried. My body has recovered its endurance but my max push ups is around 10 which is ridiculous knowing I've been training for 3 and a half years. I have a lot less heavy thoughts. No more anxiety, less irritability and less depression.
Unfortunately, I feel like I'm sleeping too much as I woke up today it was already 11 am.
 
There are other people in this topic who recovered after two years, I bet you will be one of them, meanwhile try to distract yourself, go outside, try to exercise or just walk, I read there's a link among exercise and neuroplasticity, if you are lazy like me and you don't want to exercise just walk as much as you can, it could make the difference. Take a look at this https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23623982/
But read, that Flourid can destroy Nicotin-Rezeptors and I feel that there is no signal of happiness in me. Yesterday I felt, I could music enjoy very good, better than befor I thought. But the vivid spark in my own person is not there, also there are not many hormones left. And no life in my brain when sleeping.
 
^ well said.

sociopaths have emotions it's the difference between a sociopath and psychopath that most people don't realize not only differentiates the two but also gives perspective in why they do have emotions and feelings.

i get what your saying though, you feel emotionally flat which is a step up from suffering right?

to me that is a good sign in your healing in addition to the rest of your post. eating healthy always has helped people feel better and heal slightly faster who suffer from the poison, in addition to what zack365 said.

hows the cappuccino working out for you?

might try some coffee myself in the next few weeks to see how it is but all i drink is regular coffee you can stand a spoon in. no real cappuccino here in america, just that stuff you get at fivebucks, i mean eightbucks (starbucks), yuck!
 
Speaking of coffee, I also notice that I get no buzz from it now. Well, it will still keep me up at night sometimes if I drink it in the evening. But I don't get the buzz that I used to get from it. Another effect of the invega I suppose
 
I kind of overdid it with coffee when in the first couple years I was coming off Invega Sustenna. Try to keep it in moderation. I know it helps, but caffeine intolerance can become a serious problem.
 
I kind of overdid it with coffee when in the first couple years I was coming off Invega Sustenna. Try to keep it in moderation. I know it helps, but caffeine intolerance can become a serious problem.

I can't tolerate coffee now. It's makes me extremely uncomfortable and extremely short of breath. It's awful. Mornings with my coffee was my favorite time of my day.
 
The other night I took 4 10s vicodin. 2 hours after taking them I started smoking weed. Smoked 4 dro joints in 4 hours. Shortly after this. 6 hours after taking vicodin, something starts happening to me. I'm got dizzy, I was walking. My husband and his friend was ahead of me but I started stumbling back and forth and up on all fours on the corner, edge of someone's lawn. I started dry heaving, nothing was coming out. I was so dizzy I thought I was gonna pass out. It took a minute but I got up my husband had to help me the rest of the way. This lasted for about a hour.
 
^ savage. glad your doing better.

i did that once couple years ago right before i put in a lot of effort to stay off substances. it's why i mention mind your limits. eighth of weed (i roll some and load some), handful of adderall, two vic, fifth of liquor and a few beers in under 24 hours. shroomed a couple days before and wasn't recovered from that yet (i hate how my tolerance is messed with from this trial). walking back to my apartment after a cigarette, got down on all fours and threw up acid and mucus. good times.

the pills were the worse. about a year into it i didn't realize i had gone through a fifth already and almost blacked out. had to be carried to bed while barely holding onto consciousness.

it's like iridescentblack is saying for anything while on the poison - moderation.

even though we can't feel the effects of foods, drinks and substances our bodies still have to deal with the amount of what we put into them. one way we can tell if we are too messed up is how high, drunk, etc. we feel from those receptors telling us. without them it's like walking barefoot in the desert with diabetes, you gotta check yourself before you... well you see what happens.

too much coffee (3 cups) a couple months ago gave me the spins and sick for a few hours. too much water and you can literally disturb the balance of H2O in your cells. too much nicotine and it's headaches and throwing up. too much food and your body evacuates it with a quickness. too much vitamins and your skin turns colors, your organs shut down and your poisoned.

it's best for anyone not to do drugs when they have a mental illness or while on psych meds, i've had a few drug interactions with other psych meds i just pushed through it. but if anyone is going to use while healing from invega best to error on the side of caution. less is more.

that's why i always alternate between a cup of water and a cup of tea through out the day. water helps the healing in many ways and natural caffeine helps to adjust for what the poison does plus tea has good stuff in it for you i hear, antioxidants and all that. i was raised on coffee and tea. i'm still hesitant to try coffee but will do in next few weeks.

the best part of waking up is not invega in your cup. hopefully you can drink that coffee soon. your almost there, your so close the rest of us can taste it.

@Hoffsteader: yes, it will keep you up. just cause you don't feel it doesn't mean the caffeine isn't having an effect on your body. watch your hands when drinking coffee, if they start to shake you might not be able to sleep for awhile. it's the nerves that are already over stimulated from the poison, more stimulants like coffee will increase this and you'll be stuck up a tree without a paddle. the poison is supposed to target the brain but in truth it affects the nervous system and body as well. it invades every cell.

try one cup and see how your day goes. then two cups and if your not wired and can still sleep you can adjust for another cup. it's the learning process. more than 5 a day of regular coffee and it's probably going to make things worse than better. we get coffee here on this continent with artificial things done to it. Empty probably gets the good stuff seeing as he's euoropean. them italians know their culture, banking, pasta and coffee among other things.

@Empty1128: that flat feeling is a good thing. suffering while healing is below zero on a scale. flat is zero. soon you will be bouncing back and forth from 0 up to 5 (or whatever your scale is) when your healed you wont even think about it. your making progress and better than before. it's a struggle but keep up the good work.
 
in this case psychosis means temporary like a symptom of a mental condition. most people think psychosis is a mental illness. those who had drug induced psychosis can relate to this.

please feel free to let me know if i should delete this, i don't want to come across as insensitive or not being mindful of others. i know how hard it can be sometimes. was thinking shades here said intelligent mind and psychosis i thought it appropriate, i could be wrong.

 
^I like that. funny

With memories resurfacing that preceded the traumatic event that put me on Risperdal Consta (and then Invega Sustenna) I'd wager I'm am very near healed now. Some time during that traumatic event I wound up with amnesia. I've had amnesia about 7 times throughout my adult life. Most of the memories have come back, but this traumatic event was particularly special. A lot of things happened that I can't really explain. So getting these back I feel is important.
 
Intelligent mind. Now that one goes way back. Back then I thought I was God now I'm just like every other person on antipsychotics.
 
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