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Invaguser you still haven't addressed my point regarding you saying that the validity of someone's viewpoint can be determined based on their character.
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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2
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Do you sometimes feel like Invega sustenna is messing with your thoughts? I wasn't a heavy thinker but now it's as if I can't get rid of some ideas.
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@Abject: now i remember you. still haven't responded to my PM, what did i ever do to you?! i'm joking. staying off the drugs?
here's the list of people who took zyprexa and what form. they're all from BL. Branid81 and Babylon5 took the injection. MisterTi and Ammarishot both took the pills. Aiden21 and Evanoui but i'm not sure whether they took the pills or injections. they have all posted in one of the two invega threads and their usernames are spelled correctly.
@Jmoore52: i have tried smoking it but never drinking it. i have heard it helps some people with healing. i have also heard it does help with mental health issues. even though we can't prescribe it here, whatever works is what works. thanks for the heads up.
@zack365: you asking in general or someone specific? i've known it has ground thoughts to a halt personally, makes it easy to fixate on some. it was talked of extensively on one of the threads. it's one way some people say it helps with their mental health symptoms regardless if they have a negative or positive reaction from the poison. it will make you confront yourself in ways you are not use to. light thinkers and more social or bubbly types have a bit of a hard time in this way because it locks you into your head space. it gets easier and distracting yourself the best you can helps.
i'm sure others will perk up with their responses when they wake up.
here's the list of people who took zyprexa and what form. they're all from BL. Branid81 and Babylon5 took the injection. MisterTi and Ammarishot both took the pills. Aiden21 and Evanoui but i'm not sure whether they took the pills or injections. they have all posted in one of the two invega threads and their usernames are spelled correctly.
@Jmoore52: i have tried smoking it but never drinking it. i have heard it helps some people with healing. i have also heard it does help with mental health issues. even though we can't prescribe it here, whatever works is what works. thanks for the heads up.
@zack365: you asking in general or someone specific? i've known it has ground thoughts to a halt personally, makes it easy to fixate on some. it was talked of extensively on one of the threads. it's one way some people say it helps with their mental health symptoms regardless if they have a negative or positive reaction from the poison. it will make you confront yourself in ways you are not use to. light thinkers and more social or bubbly types have a bit of a hard time in this way because it locks you into your head space. it gets easier and distracting yourself the best you can helps.
i'm sure others will perk up with their responses when they wake up.
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^ that's not mixing drugs and targeting a receptor, that's trying to kill you! someone took out a contract on your life, i'm glad they were not successful. i'm joking even though it's not appreciated or helping. my apologies.
seriously though. that's very wrong and irresponsible of that nurse to do. ideally they should be reading the script off the page (after you sit down) and then reading the package even if all of them are clearly marked and organized on the shelf. i remember one time my nurse looked at me and thought i was going to get mad, i asked her what's going on? she asked if i would mind waiting while she double checked that she had the right one and dosage in the other room where they kept it under lock and key. i said no problem, better to be safe than sorry when it comes to drugs. (i should have ran away and never got another shot again even though she had the right one but i digress)
thanks for sharing. you are not the first to receive invega and haldol so good news is your going to live. your going to recover too. you are strong enough to get through it.
to answer your question with the new info: i'm no psychiatrist or chemist but i doubt what happened will make it impossible for you to heal. they do both target the same 4 receptors and we believe they are the receptor(s) that cause us so many problems. the good part is the damage has been done already and your moving forward with healing. in this case specifically it seems like the haldol is kinda like a substitute for the xeplion. you got the same injection of xeplion but it was an expired batch and you might have one or two different side effects/withdrawal symptoms you might experience but it's not the end. just another story you can tell your kids while sitting around the radio and drinking hot coco one day.
long story short, it's going to be ok.
seriously though. that's very wrong and irresponsible of that nurse to do. ideally they should be reading the script off the page (after you sit down) and then reading the package even if all of them are clearly marked and organized on the shelf. i remember one time my nurse looked at me and thought i was going to get mad, i asked her what's going on? she asked if i would mind waiting while she double checked that she had the right one and dosage in the other room where they kept it under lock and key. i said no problem, better to be safe than sorry when it comes to drugs. (i should have ran away and never got another shot again even though she had the right one but i digress)
thanks for sharing. you are not the first to receive invega and haldol so good news is your going to live. your going to recover too. you are strong enough to get through it.
to answer your question with the new info: i'm no psychiatrist or chemist but i doubt what happened will make it impossible for you to heal. they do both target the same 4 receptors and we believe they are the receptor(s) that cause us so many problems. the good part is the damage has been done already and your moving forward with healing. in this case specifically it seems like the haldol is kinda like a substitute for the xeplion. you got the same injection of xeplion but it was an expired batch and you might have one or two different side effects/withdrawal symptoms you might experience but it's not the end. just another story you can tell your kids while sitting around the radio and drinking hot coco one day.
long story short, it's going to be ok.
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You are all self-congratulatory victims who accept and deny ideas based on how connected you are with someone emotionally. Instead of looking at the actual ideas, you're looking at the person's character. Truth and falsehood don't change based on who says it. I'm leaving this forum, you can all keep kissing each others asses to justify the way you feel instead of actually reasoning through it. People want their emotions to be justified.
6 months today. Had 254mg + 156mg a week later
GOOD
Time goes by quicker and with less struggle
Physical strength and concentration is back, can do plenty reps in the gym
Playing xbox for 3 hours or more compared to less than an hour a couple months ago
Started doing hobbies and study occasionally
Less zombie mode, eyes are more alert, processing much more and depression is less severe
Weed is more enjoyable
Leaps forward in cognition
Able to feel anger and laugh
Sleep much more satisfying with less headaches waking up
Dreams are not always sluggish and gruelling, having more fast-paced dreams
BAD
Generally lacking spirit, feels forced doing exercise
Sometimes difficult to have a vision for the day and remain calm
Most days wasted and a race to bed time
Spend hours in bed after waking up before feeling ready
Still freak out at getting bored, not making the most of my time
Normal dreams are scant, missing that a lot
Weed doesnt thrill me like before and i get a negative feeling sometimes
Still get that sick nausea-ish dejected effed up feeling
Still feel partially zombied
Irritable and hard to interface with normal happy people, i have to reply slowly to control my emotions and not sound too moody
COMMENTS
I can say with certainty things have got easier, the worst is behind me for good. Im functioning in ways that were not possible 2 months ago, so there is no reason yet to doubt that the current bad things wont get better and there isn't much else I can think of that i need to improve, but it is hard to know until the fog clears.
GOOD
Time goes by quicker and with less struggle
Physical strength and concentration is back, can do plenty reps in the gym
Playing xbox for 3 hours or more compared to less than an hour a couple months ago
Started doing hobbies and study occasionally
Less zombie mode, eyes are more alert, processing much more and depression is less severe
Weed is more enjoyable
Leaps forward in cognition
Able to feel anger and laugh
Sleep much more satisfying with less headaches waking up
Dreams are not always sluggish and gruelling, having more fast-paced dreams
BAD
Generally lacking spirit, feels forced doing exercise
Sometimes difficult to have a vision for the day and remain calm
Most days wasted and a race to bed time
Spend hours in bed after waking up before feeling ready
Still freak out at getting bored, not making the most of my time
Normal dreams are scant, missing that a lot
Weed doesnt thrill me like before and i get a negative feeling sometimes
Still get that sick nausea-ish dejected effed up feeling
Still feel partially zombied
Irritable and hard to interface with normal happy people, i have to reply slowly to control my emotions and not sound too moody
COMMENTS
I can say with certainty things have got easier, the worst is behind me for good. Im functioning in ways that were not possible 2 months ago, so there is no reason yet to doubt that the current bad things wont get better and there isn't much else I can think of that i need to improve, but it is hard to know until the fog clears.
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Thanks for sharing.
Personnally, it's been 72 days since the last Xeplion 75 mg injection.
The good things are: enjoying time with friends, having no sexual dysfunction at all, getting better quality sleep, video games, music sounds better, I can take a nap nearly everyday, I'm more optimistic, depression got better, I have better stamina.
Bad: Impossible to have a complete blood pumping workout, I have hard time waking up, I don't feel full after my meals and eat too much meat, less motivated to get things done, irritable sometimes.
Personnally, it's been 72 days since the last Xeplion 75 mg injection.
The good things are: enjoying time with friends, having no sexual dysfunction at all, getting better quality sleep, video games, music sounds better, I can take a nap nearly everyday, I'm more optimistic, depression got better, I have better stamina.
Bad: Impossible to have a complete blood pumping workout, I have hard time waking up, I don't feel full after my meals and eat too much meat, less motivated to get things done, irritable sometimes.
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Is there anyone here I can speak to about a CTO?
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I wish all the psychiatrists had to take antipsychotics for a month, that would the best lesson they could learn before giving them to patients.
Btw, I'm 73 days off, I had a run as usual, 2.5 miles in 18m15s. My body felt so light, it's so nice when you can see the end of the tunnel even though I have at least two other months to go.
Btw, I'm 73 days off, I had a run as usual, 2.5 miles in 18m15s. My body felt so light, it's so nice when you can see the end of the tunnel even though I have at least two other months to go.
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@Specified: have you tried a solicitor?
@zack365: where you from? i'm usa. i ask cause i'm having troubles with doing the math on somethings you say. you took low doses of the poison which is usually a european way of dosing but you put things in terms of miles which is mostly american. about an 8 minute mile on average, that's pretty good even without the poison. i like to run too, did one mile in 5 minutes and change back in high school. usually about 7 minute mile but i don't time them, other people have. i just like going all out running short and long distance. it's a rush and one of the only times i feel free. if i'm not careful i might break the matrix barrier and get shut down by a bunch of agents. haha.
we all would like to have the psychiatrists experience what we go through. some of us if not all for the bad (obviously) and some of us for the neutral reason which is it's one thing to talk about something, it's another thing to experience it.
psychiatrists are prescribing psych meds more often today it seems, idk, it could be due to more people and more psychiatrist being around. my point is, it's obvious they could be listening more or if they are, then they don't take into consideration the feedback they are getting from patients and using it productively. like to develop better meds, routines and practices. having that first hand experience is something we have talked about a few times in both threads and sometimes it gets out of hand. we can vent and talk about things here but not threaten anyone. it's considered harming or threatening speak if we wish it upon those who gave us the poison.
imho if one of these placebo groups they use to test meds before they put them on the open market had psychiatrists as one of the people taking instead of giving then they might have some idea as to what people go through when they are experiencing negative interactions from it. none of them will try it, it's kinda unreasonable to ask them to and they can't put themselves in our shoes; so how do we get them to understand more? tough question.
i kinda post long ones sometimes, you can follow ok? when we first come off the poison it is hard to concentrate or read longer posts, taking breaks while reading usually helps. (sorry about the way i'm coming across, i'm starting to get sleep deprivation again, time for me to pass out... finally!) before i do go i was going to ask if you would share some of your negative side effects and withdrawal symptoms with us? how you got put on the poison? you don't have to answer anything you don't want to. it helps everyone to understand and relate to each other plus i hear it's therapeutic. everyone is free to come and go as they please, just read or even post updates from time to time. pretty much whatever as long as we adhere to the TOU's of BL. this is one of the few places we have to figure out what the poison does and try to find relief if not the antidote and we like to treat it as such. i think that's enough from me for now. good to hear your most of the way healed, keep at it because you might have less than two months. there are negative as well as positive exceptions out there, we had a few positive ones awhile back. heal quickly. peace.
@zack365: where you from? i'm usa. i ask cause i'm having troubles with doing the math on somethings you say. you took low doses of the poison which is usually a european way of dosing but you put things in terms of miles which is mostly american. about an 8 minute mile on average, that's pretty good even without the poison. i like to run too, did one mile in 5 minutes and change back in high school. usually about 7 minute mile but i don't time them, other people have. i just like going all out running short and long distance. it's a rush and one of the only times i feel free. if i'm not careful i might break the matrix barrier and get shut down by a bunch of agents. haha.
we all would like to have the psychiatrists experience what we go through. some of us if not all for the bad (obviously) and some of us for the neutral reason which is it's one thing to talk about something, it's another thing to experience it.
psychiatrists are prescribing psych meds more often today it seems, idk, it could be due to more people and more psychiatrist being around. my point is, it's obvious they could be listening more or if they are, then they don't take into consideration the feedback they are getting from patients and using it productively. like to develop better meds, routines and practices. having that first hand experience is something we have talked about a few times in both threads and sometimes it gets out of hand. we can vent and talk about things here but not threaten anyone. it's considered harming or threatening speak if we wish it upon those who gave us the poison.
imho if one of these placebo groups they use to test meds before they put them on the open market had psychiatrists as one of the people taking instead of giving then they might have some idea as to what people go through when they are experiencing negative interactions from it. none of them will try it, it's kinda unreasonable to ask them to and they can't put themselves in our shoes; so how do we get them to understand more? tough question.
i kinda post long ones sometimes, you can follow ok? when we first come off the poison it is hard to concentrate or read longer posts, taking breaks while reading usually helps. (sorry about the way i'm coming across, i'm starting to get sleep deprivation again, time for me to pass out... finally!) before i do go i was going to ask if you would share some of your negative side effects and withdrawal symptoms with us? how you got put on the poison? you don't have to answer anything you don't want to. it helps everyone to understand and relate to each other plus i hear it's therapeutic. everyone is free to come and go as they please, just read or even post updates from time to time. pretty much whatever as long as we adhere to the TOU's of BL. this is one of the few places we have to figure out what the poison does and try to find relief if not the antidote and we like to treat it as such. i think that's enough from me for now. good to hear your most of the way healed, keep at it because you might have less than two months. there are negative as well as positive exceptions out there, we had a few positive ones awhile back. heal quickly. peace.
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invegauser, I am French. I just prefer using the miles instead since most of you are probably american! My personal best was 17 m 12s 2.5 miles, it's always enjoyable to run freely!
I definitely agree, psychiatrists should take more often account of their patients' feedback. Otherwise, more and more people will keep on having this poison injected despite they end up quitting sooner than expected.
So, I was put on Invega Sustenna after a severe depression which they saw as a relapse from schizophrenia. I was fine without antipsychotics before my depression. I mean, I go to college, have happy relationships, they unfortunately believe schizophrenia is a life-long disease, which is not always the case. So I had the two low dose injections and here I am!
The first side effects I had extreme fatigue, I was in bed all day long for almost two weeks, I had vivid dreams like I've never had before, sexual dysfunction, low motivation, it's kind of weird to say but I felt like a kid back in the days when I didn't care about anything, no desire to get a girlfriend, laying down with my phone was satisfying.
I definitely agree, psychiatrists should take more often account of their patients' feedback. Otherwise, more and more people will keep on having this poison injected despite they end up quitting sooner than expected.
So, I was put on Invega Sustenna after a severe depression which they saw as a relapse from schizophrenia. I was fine without antipsychotics before my depression. I mean, I go to college, have happy relationships, they unfortunately believe schizophrenia is a life-long disease, which is not always the case. So I had the two low dose injections and here I am!
The first side effects I had extreme fatigue, I was in bed all day long for almost two weeks, I had vivid dreams like I've never had before, sexual dysfunction, low motivation, it's kind of weird to say but I felt like a kid back in the days when I didn't care about anything, no desire to get a girlfriend, laying down with my phone was satisfying.
You need a tribunal hearing and a very solid case because you're not innocent until proven guilty in such a hearing.
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@zack365: that's considerate of you. idk why the world doesn't convert to one system but i suppose there are reasons. personally those germans are amazing with clocks and car engines. some of the finest work ever.
sorry this was done to you. it sounds pretty typical of late. it use to be they would have reasonable cause, now it sounds like if you complain of a tooth ache you might get injected. that's unreasonable so let me say if someone has a bad day (which we all get) then you might get stuck with a needle because a person is not evaluated correctly by medical professionals. i've been following this thread for years, the two main reasons people get the poison is mental illness and psychotic break from drug use. i get they are trying to help but once loaded and having severe negative interactions it should be stopped, it's not like cancer and chemo therapy. also these people aren't suffering from cotton mouth; it's severe sleep problems, troubles interacting with the world around them and generally functioning in the real world among a long list of other things. many times it makes a persons life worse off then before the injection. it doesn't make sense to me with everything i know about the science of psychiatry and being human but it's more important to focus on healing and getting on with our lives then it is to dwell on the past or what could've been.
we become better after this trial and one way we do that is we know what doesn't work. it's not just the poison alone, it's also being able to recognize what it does to us internally. that's just one reason i say you are your own best judge of what it's doing to you, if you go thinking about it the right way that is. it also gives us the smarts and fortitude to recognize when something is not ok and put a stop to it, IF (big if) we find ourselves in a similar position again. there are general ways it makes us all better and ways on personal levels it makes us better. i really hope your a positive exception, those here could use one and for yourself as well. time will tell and keeping the fingers crossed.
those are typical side effects/withdrawal symptoms. they will clear up as you have already found out. we all felt naive, like kids, care free before this. it is a trick the poison plays on us. it is the "hope" receptor and when it has recovered from the poison you will find that way of being again.
there are people who read but never create an account to post, anything we share and what we find out that helps us through this trial benefits them as well. we all want to heal. thank you for telling your story.
sorry this was done to you. it sounds pretty typical of late. it use to be they would have reasonable cause, now it sounds like if you complain of a tooth ache you might get injected. that's unreasonable so let me say if someone has a bad day (which we all get) then you might get stuck with a needle because a person is not evaluated correctly by medical professionals. i've been following this thread for years, the two main reasons people get the poison is mental illness and psychotic break from drug use. i get they are trying to help but once loaded and having severe negative interactions it should be stopped, it's not like cancer and chemo therapy. also these people aren't suffering from cotton mouth; it's severe sleep problems, troubles interacting with the world around them and generally functioning in the real world among a long list of other things. many times it makes a persons life worse off then before the injection. it doesn't make sense to me with everything i know about the science of psychiatry and being human but it's more important to focus on healing and getting on with our lives then it is to dwell on the past or what could've been.
we become better after this trial and one way we do that is we know what doesn't work. it's not just the poison alone, it's also being able to recognize what it does to us internally. that's just one reason i say you are your own best judge of what it's doing to you, if you go thinking about it the right way that is. it also gives us the smarts and fortitude to recognize when something is not ok and put a stop to it, IF (big if) we find ourselves in a similar position again. there are general ways it makes us all better and ways on personal levels it makes us better. i really hope your a positive exception, those here could use one and for yourself as well. time will tell and keeping the fingers crossed.
those are typical side effects/withdrawal symptoms. they will clear up as you have already found out. we all felt naive, like kids, care free before this. it is a trick the poison plays on us. it is the "hope" receptor and when it has recovered from the poison you will find that way of being again.
there are people who read but never create an account to post, anything we share and what we find out that helps us through this trial benefits them as well. we all want to heal. thank you for telling your story.
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Alright so im about 2 weeks shy of 10 months since my last shot. Its whatever... u can still see my vacant eyes, my muscles are warped from the invega which makes me mad. I thought id need to have surgery to remove the extra skin i had from losing the 70 lbs on the poison but then a couple days ago it wasnt as wrinkly and saggy- mind u im in my mid 20s so nothing should sag except my balls...
^^hey i kinda have my humor back! How is everyone doing in terms of their saliva production? My miuth is always dry i hate it. Also cbd is as beneficial during this recovery as SUNLIGHT is. Seriously. I read that 72 hours of sunlight broke down paliperidone palmitate down to about 52%. So yea.
Also do u guys have to pee a lot? I specifically have this issue when i take boron, but even when i dont take it i have to pee a lot. And its annoying bc when im done, i give my self one last shake (lol) but theres always a couple drops left, it sounds dumb but i think somethings weong my muscles that stop my flow of pee. Weird...
Like ive mentioned in previous posts i can workout regularly. About 2 weeks ago i finallygot to the point where i can run a whole mile without stopping. My miles average maybe 10 min each...
I used to get nipple soreness for a week during the onset of each half life of invega and it just happened arouns july 20th, it finally went away today. I HOPE im on my last half life but i wont be surprised if theres one or two more. I give myself 4-7 more months for achievinf at least 98% pre invega status.
OMG i almost forgot the reason i decided to make another post, i wanted to add St. johns Wart to my regimen but i wanna know if it helps metabolize/eliminate the invega or if it just makes it less effective/blocks it; Theres a slight difference. I read once somethinf to the effect that st johns wart increases the enzymes that break down invega or maybe it was blocks the invega, idk. But should i add it to my regimen? Last time i tried baking soda bc some idiot posted abou it and it acrually made me feel lile i received another injection for a couple hours.... like thanks you fucking idiot.... so please help me (with facts) alright keep up the fight you guys.
^^hey i kinda have my humor back! How is everyone doing in terms of their saliva production? My miuth is always dry i hate it. Also cbd is as beneficial during this recovery as SUNLIGHT is. Seriously. I read that 72 hours of sunlight broke down paliperidone palmitate down to about 52%. So yea.
Also do u guys have to pee a lot? I specifically have this issue when i take boron, but even when i dont take it i have to pee a lot. And its annoying bc when im done, i give my self one last shake (lol) but theres always a couple drops left, it sounds dumb but i think somethings weong my muscles that stop my flow of pee. Weird...
Like ive mentioned in previous posts i can workout regularly. About 2 weeks ago i finallygot to the point where i can run a whole mile without stopping. My miles average maybe 10 min each...
I used to get nipple soreness for a week during the onset of each half life of invega and it just happened arouns july 20th, it finally went away today. I HOPE im on my last half life but i wont be surprised if theres one or two more. I give myself 4-7 more months for achievinf at least 98% pre invega status.
OMG i almost forgot the reason i decided to make another post, i wanted to add St. johns Wart to my regimen but i wanna know if it helps metabolize/eliminate the invega or if it just makes it less effective/blocks it; Theres a slight difference. I read once somethinf to the effect that st johns wart increases the enzymes that break down invega or maybe it was blocks the invega, idk. But should i add it to my regimen? Last time i tried baking soda bc some idiot posted abou it and it acrually made me feel lile i received another injection for a couple hours.... like thanks you fucking idiot.... so please help me (with facts) alright keep up the fight you guys.
Saggy balls! LMAO that's great LMAO
I've had a issue with too much saliva. I wish I could run like that. I'm a smoker. I think my loose skin is tightening back up. This shit does a number on a person's entire being. I have noticed the pee thing. Like I pee some then it's like I got to push hard to get the rest out and there quite a bit. All of it sucks but I think we both are really close. Almost there. Hang in there.
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