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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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Anti psychotics/ a lot of anti depressants are the devil. Was prescribed an anti after going to psych and complaining of high anxiety levels and mild depression, shit made me perma tired went from sleeping a little more than normal to being able to stay in bed all day. Eventually went to whst I could obtain for pain and anxiety (etizolam). After a year of that shit and blacking out I had a psychotic episode coming off of that thienotriazolodiazepine (etizolam).

Was then put on this anti-psychotic when all I needed was good sleep. Coming off tiz made me stay awake for days until dreams were indistuingashable from real life and was the single worst experience of my life after landing in the psych hospital. This med did not help and the side effects were numerous. Quickly moved to kratom for mood boost and to get me over the PAWS hump which thankfully helped and can still take 3-5 grams occasionally .
 
@HateInvega: healing process is telling me i can finally go to sleep now. thankfully. i'll check in with you when i wake up but until then hang in there buddy. it's rough and we all know it.

you have enough st johns wort? ever think that what your going through is slightly different than what others experience? after all your sexual side effects went away in less than 3 months, that's not something us guys go through on average in the healing process. maybe your a positive exception and that in itself carries a different set of burdens. yes you will heal quicker but faster means the opposite of me, fast and hard. like a bullet where i'm long and slow like someone running me through with a really long tree branch. dealing with the poisons sucks either way. the average healing time people still suffer but will have an even keel, something pretty reasonable in comparison to those who heal faster or slower. maybe you are a positive exception in pw.... (can't type, passing out as i do, haha) in respect to time. time will tell.

until then be safe. be mindful. take it one day at a time. keep taking care of yourself and making improvements. heal quickly. peace.
 
@Rosi71: no, not in my body, it has been too long.

i think of it much like trauma. once the damage has been done then the healing takes awhile because trauma to the brain takes much longer than trauma to the body. poison is potent and puts a lot of trauma on the body and brain.

do you think it is still in your body Rosi71?

@Hellohihey2: when i pushed myself hard the other day (i mentioned in my post i fainted) i heard that ringing in my ears for several minutes pretty loudly. last night i had to take care of something and i pushed myself only a little hard and heard the ringing in my ear again, it was muted and softer this time though, like hearing it under water. for me, it depends on the stress i put on myself whether i hear it or how loudly. i hope this is useful info for you.
 
@invegauser & Everyone else

If you all havent tried it yet, try cbd oil. Water soluble works best. Its a bit pricey if you cant get a prescription if its not legal medical where you live. It prevents nerve damage, and also repairs the brain after injury. Which is why a lot of NFL players are promoting it. Also its used as a natural antipsychotic, and this is what we all shouldve been put on in the first place, but ya know then the medical companies would stop making billions by destroying lives. Its the only drug Ive found that doesnt give me negative side effects as well. Just putting in my 2 cents, much love everyone.
 
What would be signs, that there is still poison in the body? I lost so much life in my eyes and also hormones. And I cannot dream of the really problems of my life. There is no emotions after waking up, no life in the brain. Can this poison kill life in our brain?
 
No, by stating my opinion and what I believe to be true I am not "making people feel worse" and that is completely nonsensical from any logical perspective. Venturing out to try and blatantly insult someone's character and make them feel worse is one thing to make you mad or offended, but stating my opinion on a matter which I believe to be true and you getting mad or offended is not. Those aren't the same thing. That's not me going out of my way to try and make you feel worse, that's you getting upset at a difference of opinion. You get so triggered just because someone has a different point of view than you do, that's the problem. I'm sorry if the facts offended you, but that's not me trying to attack you, that's you not liking the facts.
 
@HateInvega: emotions are not facts, they are an emotional response to how we feel about something. opinions are not facts, it is an interpretation of something viewed through the lens a person perceives life through. feelings and emotions are not always the same thing, they actually work more in conjunction with each other than being the same. opinions are like ***holes, everyone has one and they all stink. it is typical behavior to either accept or reject someone elses opinion based off certain criteria both on a societal level and personal one. (just some facts)

i retain information that might be useful from negative opinions in case it is relevant and i missed it's usefulness in the immediate or long term future.

i enjoy people having different points of views, otherwise i would truly go mad because people believe in whatever they want and without those opinions they would be mindless and selfish in their journey through this life. i have a tendency to believe people are not entirely that way.

triggered. that word never works very well for any situation. i'm not angry and your telling me how i feel. (i'm actually depressed from being stuck this way for so long and what adds to that depression is i'm even worse than i was two weeks ago) i actually miss that gun but not because i'm depressed or suicidal, more of a i have limits kind of thing. i choose to continue working through my problems the best i can and not fall back on something that would deny me experiencing life because of something else that is having a negative impact on it. easy choice in life is sometimes the wrong one, in this case trying to end my own life to get out of this cycle of negative aspects and inner turmoil created by the poison.

though your right on mood never stagnating fully, the poison does create a constant negative baseline due to hope being temporarily removed. it's what makes up part of the bulk of the healing process, the zombie phase. hence anhedonia.

my mood (without the poison) is less susceptible to the mood swings as well as positive and negative emotions that most people experience. that in combination with my condition, who i am and some positive aspects to who i am; it makes trying to strong arm me into believing or thinking the way someone wants me to almost impossible. it's part of what makes me, me. though it does carry it own sets of drawbacks as well as perks, just different ones than most people are accustomed to in life.

i appreciate you judging me and making me feel like s**t for venting when i needed it very badly. i try not to vent here because i know what everyone is going through and don't want to add to their burden. because i think backwards like that.

my posts are trying to let you know where i'm coming from, i'm still trying to let you know i'm not trying to create conflict, just get a simple question across.

how are you doing?
 
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You seem to be confused and conflating some things. I've clearly separated my facts from opinion as I've said my opinion on Steph's attitude, which you then said was "making people feel worse". If your life genuinely gets worse over a forum post on the internet in response to your initial attitude then the problem is you. What's factual is everything that's true and has actually happened that I've stated in previous posts. This is the clear distinguishment between fact and opinion that you're presumingly conflating.

What is this supposed to mean? "it is typical behavior to either accept or reject someone elses opinion based off certain criteria both on a societal level and personal one. (just some facts)". It's rational behavior to either accept or reject someone's opinion based on the logical integrity of such view, not based on what you think about them personally. Whatever is true about someone's opinion is true about the universe and that truth doesn't change or alter based on your subjective opinion of someone's character. Truth doesn't change based on who says it.

If you think you're too good to be judged then get off your high horse. No person, ideology, thought, idea or group of people should be above criticism and ridicule. The right to freely criticize is part of freedom of speech. Also, I highly doubt that you're sitting there sobbing and crying over some guy who you're never going to meet on the internet "judging" you.
 
I can't get the study on 5ht-7 out of my mind. It's been about a year since I got the two loading doses and I still don't feel fully recovered. I got another depot of olanzapine in July which is much preferable to palileridone.
I don't know whether it's worth seeing an endocrinologist to see that all my hormones are normal, surely there'd be a consequent upregulation of nuerochemicals and hormones in the strive for homeostasis, or a sensitising effect to fight antagonism.
 
no, just don't like to be judged. not on my high horse; can't be or else i'm literally dead. i can't stop others from judging me and i don't. if someone wants to judge me and base whether they accept me off such close minded ways of thinking then i don't want to talk to them. i don't like to be judged and that is what your doing so this conversation ends here.

i wish you the best of luck in healing and please do not talk to me again. i'm going to ignore your posts to me here and your PM's. much like those here do, i see your suffering. we understand it better than those who have not taken the poison. regardless you made your choice. heal quickly. peace.
 
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@LifeAfterInvega: nice quote. well said.

@Abject: did you and the few others here in the past on zyprexa ever meet up and learn anything new? i can't remember if i pointed them in your direction or not.
 
invegauser said:
@LifeAfterInvega: nice quote. well said.

@Abject: did you and the few others here in the past on zyprexa ever meet up and learn anything new? i can't remember if i pointed them in your direction or not.
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Nope, only people I've really spoken to it about are people from the asylum
How is your recovery going?
 
I had the two loading shots of Xeplion/Invega Sustenna but at a reduced amount. 100 mg and 75 mg.
It's been 71 days since the last shot. I have no sexual dysfunction, no anhedonia but lack of motivation and it's impossible to work out like I used to.
I run, walk and have small workouts on a very regular basis which definitely helps. Otherwise I think I'll be free from it at month 4 or 5.
 
zack365 said:
I had the two loading shots of Xeplion/Invega Sustenna but at a reduced amount. 100 mg and 75 mg.
It's been 71 days since the last shot. I have no sexual dysfunction, no anhedonia but lack of motivation and it's impossible to work out like I used to.
I run, walk and have small workouts on a very regular basis which definitely helps. Otherwise I think I'll be free from it at month 4 or 5.
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Welcome to the forum. Yes, exercise helps a lot. Motivational problems you'll see dissolving as time moves on.

Any other problems or questions feel free to ask the group. I'm sure someone will lend you their time and experience.
 
@zack365: @iridescentblack is another long term healer but he knows his stuff and will chime in from time to time. he's like the rest of those here, awesome people. 2 low doses huh? i look forward to seeing your recovery process as i'm not exposed to a lot who have had such low doses. it seems science might be making smarter decisions to lower the dose finally but i digress...

welcome to the thread, feel free to ask questions... err?? iridescent covered that. haha, smart guy that one. there are two threads packed full of info and lots of recovery stories. you are not alone, those here know what your going through. you will fully heal. that optimistic attitude will serve you well in healing.

@Abject: there are at least 3 different threads that 3 or 4 people mentioned they were having similar side effects/withdrawal symptoms as invega from the zyprexa/olanzapine shots. i'll PM you the info when i find it later. don't forget you can converse with people who also took the 2 other psych med injections beside zyprexa and invega. there is also abilify and haldol but in injection only, we have some of them in this thread like @ZombieMode and there are other threads as well, information is key in our situation. the similarities between all 4 are scary sometimes. eh, right now memory is taking a back seat for me going through this part of the healing process so i gotta ask somethings over again sometimes so be patient with me but give me a reminder if i forget. also did you get another injection this last july, as in 2018?

@Triced22: thanks for posting. are you currently or have you stopped taking invega/xeplion? or just spreading some experience and hope?
 
My back and hips were killing me so I took pain pills. They did nothing. It would have taken away the pain just fine pre invega. I'm just so so over it and ready for this to b over already... I had 6 injections and I'm in my 9th month of the crap.
 
@Steph78: i suggest starting with otc's first. the cheaper the better and go from there to save some money. once you find what works you can stop there.

i use heating pads when i use to have pain while dealing with the poison. taking baths are an option, i hear you can add things to the water sometimes. then your otc and other pharmaceutical/(non usa people help me out with the word)chemist?? would be the next step. there are also natural remedies i'm sure someone might be willing to share. all of this before the hassle and drain on your wallet of painkillers.

you ever get any cbd? did that help with your hips and back?


@Empty1128:
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What happens when somebody takes two antipsychotics at once? Can two drugs concurrently occupy the same receptor?
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they balance out in good ways, bad ways or neutral ways.

yes depending on what receptor and which meds they are. personally i have and will never mix or make a cocktail of psych meds, i should say for long periods of time. i've given several together a chance during the beginning of this trial and one other time; both for short periods of time, did not work. against what my opinion is i also understand that others do find results when stacking psych meds. more power to them. important thing is we find what works.

aside from disclaimers for BL and some of us telling you it's ill advised to use other psych meds while on the poison it depends which meds they are and how potent they are, their chemical properties, affiliations and what your limits are. when taking multiple psych meds it's not always the purpose to target the same receptor with multiple drugs. a general way of understanding it is taking one med for thought disorders and another one for mood or emotional disorders. whether they target the same receptors or not some have very negative interactions, some work very well together and some just leave you wondering wtf was that about.

we have had plenty of people in the past in both threads try combinations of psych meds to relieve their suffering if not find the antidote.
 
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No. I can't afford that. Yea, I definitely tried ibuprofen, heating pad, hot shower and hot bath, laying down. Nothing. Im better now. Tolerable at least.
 
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