Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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It's good to hear from everyone. Spiral I am glad you haven't had to suffer as much as the rest of us! I think that is partly due to you taking the pills and not the shots. Inva I am sorry to hear about your struggle with weight. I was lucky to not have that problem. My symptoms have inproved dramatically compared to last month! I am still in a bad place but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.
 
Copperdome, that is awesome!! I am giving weight loss another try this week, put in a good few hours of walking so far. Not overdoing it to be let down again, but I'm giving it another try. I wish I had been given pills instead of shots, but that was not my luck. I'm hoping the magic of spring will release my body again. x')

Good day, all : )
 
I don't know if I should have said dramatically... maybe noticeably would have been a better description. I am just trying to be as optimistic as possible. I am starting to enjoy things slightly more than I have been. At least I'm alive and things are getting better.
 
Think I had a stroke, because left side body is much weaker than right side. After the shot my brain felt swollen or inflammed in the right hemisphere more than left side. Probabaly because I had a left side head injury 6 years ago. Lost a lot of strength. Had hormonal changes. Anyway guys I think I am the first to start recovering 2.5 months after 1 shot. I really wish though my strength was even on both sides. I can pick up 225lbs in deal lift, but no where close to my 400lbs dl back when I was 19 years old. Really all the h ell I have been through... today I could have been a super bodybuilder and been successfully working, but this psychiatry bs ruined me. I was just very smart. Working out made my pupils dialated. Seriously, that's all they look at "dialated pupils". What a joke.
 
I'm starting to think recovery isn't as easy as just waiting it out. Theoretically the half life drops the total amount or it gets cut in half every 49 days let's say, but really - maybe Tina was right - maybe a full recovery would take centuries. Either way, I feel like overcoming this is making me stronger, at the same time I've never been so throttled by a substance.

It's almost as if I can feel the poison gathering at my core, which is strange that it would attach itself there. I've been trying to use whatever strength I can to compress it, shrink it and possibly make it into a more manageable size to possibly even eliminate it. No use. Every time I try this I feel like it's squeezing my intestines as hard as I squeeze it. Gonna try and find another method of 'excavation' and elimination. Possibly inner alchemy?

Still, it's not holding me back nearly as much. I've made great strides, but I feel like the fucking shit just keeps coming back with a vengeance and every time I hit another wave the pain comes back. And it's almost worse than before.

I hit a huge window back in late December. Biggest one yet. Thought for sure the poison was gone. Must have been cocky because I paid for it pretty badly.
 
Hi guys, my family is very unsupportive and the reason I get sent to the psyc wards. They are mental. They make reasons up to tell the doctor that I was doing this and that, things which aren't true! Police take me to the ward without even slightest bit of evidence when I say I didn't do that. In court the judge never believe me. My family hides my stuff, like my car keys and pocket knife. They go through and break my belongings. They have assaulted me and caused me serous injuries. My mom mixes drugs into my food. Sometimes my whole face gets swollen, I can't walk, I can't talk, I just slur wordsx I'm purely tranquilized while they go through my stuff, while I'm dressed out. They hid my car keys and pocket knife. They all laugh at me too. All the time they discuss with each other that my behavior is bad, and that they need a plan to send me to the psyc ward. And at slightest anger they call the police and I usually spend 3 months of the year in a psyc psych ward with the sadistic doctors and nurses who don't listen to me and take my "family"'s side, in fact the doctors personally know my parents and talk with them. I have been going to see psycs since I was 13 y.o.

I have tried to go to college but I keep getting sent to a psych ward and I was unable to finish 6 classes b/c of that over 3 semesters. I only finished 1 summer class in the past 2 years. Overall though I have done good in college and I have finished 20+ classes and I have a 3.4 GPA. But at the moment I have dropped out, and I don't have any friends to go to. I lost my job some time back too after a back injury.

Anyway, I have to survive, so please can you guys give me advice on what to do. I'm trying to move out. I don't have any money or a job. My body nearly works. My mind is blank all the times. I have become severely stupid. I'm scared that I am going to a pscy ward I'll be further damaged with meds. I think my best bet it to have the police come and take me to jail for some time. At least there I could find some peace of mind and start a new life. Yo, seriously, I don't know what to do. Do I go to the homeless shelter?
 
What hit me most was when you said the depth and complexity of your thoughts are long gone. Has that improved at all, since stopping the invega that is? Were you injected with the invega?
 
Hi guys, my family is very unsupportive and the reason I get sent to the psyc wards. They are mental. They make reasons up to tell the doctor that I was doing this and that, things which aren't true! Police take me to the ward without even slightest bit of evidence when I say I didn't do that. In court the judge never believe me. My family hides my stuff, like my car keys and pocket knife. They go through and break my belongings. They have assaulted me and caused me serous injuries. My mom mixes drugs into my food. Sometimes my whole face gets swollen, I can't walk, I can't talk, I just slur wordsx I'm purely tranquilized while they go through my stuff, while I'm dressed out. They hid my car keys and pocket knife. They all laugh at me too. All the time they discuss with each other that my behavior is bad, and that they need a plan to send me to the psyc ward. And at slightest anger they call the police and I usually spend 3 months of the year in a psyc psych ward with the sadistic doctors and nurses who don't listen to me and take my "family"'s side, in fact the doctors personally know my parents and talk with them. I have been going to see psycs since I was 13 y.o.

I have tried to go to college but I keep getting sent to a psych ward and I was unable to finish 6 classes b/c of that over 3 semesters. I only finished 1 summer class in the past 2 years. Overall though I have done good in college and I have finished 20+ classes and I have a 3.4 GPA. But at the moment I have dropped out, and I don't have any friends to go to. I lost my job some time back too after a back injury.

Anyway, I have to survive, so please can you guys give me advice on what to do. I'm trying to move out. I don't have any money or a job. My body nearly works. My mind is blank all the times. I have become severely stupid. I'm scared that I am going to a pscy ward I'll be further damaged with meds. I think my best bet it to have the police come and take me to jail for some time. At least there I could find some peace of mind and start a new life. Yo, seriously, I don't know what to do. Do I go to the homeless shelter?
Please don't take this the wrong way but it sounds like maybe you are having just a few mental issues? I had the exact same experience when I had a drug induced psychosis. You could be mentally sound and your story be 100% correct but it fits psychosis to a t. When I had a drug induced psychosis I also thought my family was trying to poison me, laugh at me, etc. My parents hid weapons and keys from me too, but it was for good reason looking back at it. Mental illness is a tough one to work thru, I wish you the best. Again maybe you are correct, but I think some of us, particularly here, are in denial about our mental health. You should give yourself credit, I don't think you are stupid... the invega left me feeling that way too. You will inprove, maybe consider other medicines possibly? They aren't all horrible like invega.
 
Please don't take this the wrong way but it sounds like maybe you are having just a few mental issues? I had the exact same experience when I had a drug induced psychosis. You could be mentally sound and your story be 100% correct but it fits psychosis to a t.

I used to see antidepressant pills in my food when I was younger. Now, some days, I know when I get drugs because I had a old stash of unused drugs that is missing, a lot of times old psyc keep writing up prescriptions that keep getting picked up by my parents at the pharmacy, and NOT BY ME. With the shot of Invega now going away. I get the feeling of swelling in my brain. Sometimes taste of blood in my mouth, that starts from my gums. I get severely weak. I can't stay up on my feet or even stand. And I used to squat 300lbs for 8 reps at one point. "It can't be the Invega this far away from the single shot 156mg plus 30mg total booster pills, when I didn't have it this strong 3 weeks from it as I did at 2 months mark, could I be getting Olanzapine in my food?", and that is the thought that gets mixed with something that someone in psychosis may think of while others really don't even care I am complaining that my body is weak, all they see is that I could be paranoid for suspecting something. What gets me most though is the way I am being treated now, disabled by the drug, dumb and weak, being made fun of, having people be paranoid and scared around me, especially my family... Most people don't even know what APs do to the mind and body, and think of it as happy pills. No one cares. My mom is convinced that I must do the drugs for 6 months or some time period because that is what a psyc told her.

So, I tried weed for the first time in my life, 2 months after Invega, and that is when I first discovered what psychosis is like. I was having a few paranoid thoughts, like overthinking how others were looking at me, or what people were planning on doing. I started to "trip" that day. However, on the day to day basis, I don't have quick rushing paranoid thoughts like that. My life has indeed been Very Very Very bizarre indeed. I can write a whole book on events in my life that could be considered mental illnesses because just of how bizarre they just are and people refusing to believe them. But everything has been far from mental illness. I was completely normal, speaking to the doctors like I am talking to you right now. I refused the meds, then I got this shot. It has completely changed me, I am losing muscle at the speed of light, the hormonal changes really bother me, I am not getting sore from workouts. I now actually have they symptoms of schizophrenia given to just after the shot, for example being depressed, unable to think, concentrate, unable to understand others, saying things without having the ability to strongly explain and clearly speak about them without straining my brain. I no longer have the same mind I used to have before the shot, I am a completely different personality, but I'm doing my best to recover at this point. I consider myself as far from being paranoid as possible, when I did have any thought that is too paranoid, I quickly know it is a paranoid thought and forget about it. It is this barbaric practice of psychiatry that just labels anyone paranoid for anything.
 
Losing your keys and blaming your family doesn't mean you have severe mental issues. I felt bad once I found my keys... Aps are what they are. You already know
 
Losing your keys and blaming your family doesn't mean you have severe mental issues. I felt bad once I found my keys... Aps are what they are. You already know

No, I am missing keys straight from my key ring, some are there, others are not. Keys for my locker, my car, my safety box. Yesterday I found my safety box unlocked. Then this talk of my family always pushing drugs on me, keep insisting that I must take them is driving me nuts. Always sleeping with the door locked. Wearing a safety device around the neck to instantly call the police. EVERY DAY JUST SAYING I NEED DRUGS. I can't even eat at home, I have gone nuts :X, I don't want this poison. I suppose I am not the only one though, if you guys are young adults like me, and ended up in a psyc ward, chances are your family isn't good for you either. I noticed this with every other person in the psyc wards I am been in. Either they have no family, or a family that doesn't want them to come home and instead continue "treatment" in the psyc ward. 2 of my room mates had no where to go to and had to stay an addition 5 days after being cleared as voluntary because they were having placement issues.
 
These situations can be hard... with parents involved. One of my friends was in a mental hospital the same time I was and he is absolutely brilliant. But his family fails to see his potential. Like most families, they accept the mental illness or creativity as best they are able. But that's it. Ability to recognize is not ability to deal [with]. People - and not just in this generation - are and have always been incapable of recognizing their faults and shortcomings due to societal expectations, measures of status, and lack of communication, connection, education, or interest. But this friend, he has what I believe is called visual idetic memory. Also called photographic memory once upon a time. He is incapable, it seems, of making conversation flow in the usual manner that people are used to. It is not a PROBLEM with his brain, as I see it, but an asset. He needs only to learn to use his abilities, but lacks the proper teacher.

I understand frustration is perhaps getting the better of some of us here. Knowing that Invega Sustenna, Halieridol, and Risperdal Consta (just to name a few) make it more difficult to articulate our feelings, to adjust to the circumstances that are presented us, or to make light of almost any situation when it is even humor that we cannot appreciate... these things are only a portion of the battle. It will not make your lives any easier but it will give you somewhat of an edge to understanding that these feelings that creep up from time to time are a watered down and twisted version that Invega spews back up from your subconscious.

As Carl Sagan put out in his book The Dragons of Eden, there are three main components to the brain. The Reptilian Complex, the Limbic System and Neocortex. I remember hearing somewhere it's the hippocampus that connects or translates the information from the limbic system to the neocortex. Note: I am not saying Invega directly interrupts this connection but I do not think there is valid research on the subject - at least from a third party - to validate it either way, however it would not surprise me if information from these two parts (the reptilian complex and the limbic system) are being mixed up and jumbled from the effects of the medication. It's about as hard to study the brain as it is to understand each function as well as the functions of a whole. Perhaps if anything, I would suggest that maybe the hippocampus becomes more vulnerable in this transgression (Invega). But my underlying point here is that beneath the Reptilian Complex lies something that we may never understand, let alone prove the existence of with science, but never forget you have a soul beneath that. Do not let Invega take away that.
 
No, I am missing keys straight from my key ring, some are there, others are not. Keys for my locker, my car, my safety box. Yesterday I found my safety box unlocked. Then this talk of my family always pushing drugs on me, keep insisting that I must take them is driving me nuts. Always sleeping with the door locked. Wearing a safety device around the neck to instantly call the police. EVERY DAY JUST SAYING I NEED DRUGS. I can't even eat at home, I have gone nuts :X, I don't want this poison. I suppose I am not the only one though, if you guys are young adults like me, and ended up in a psyc ward, chances are your family isn't good for you either. I noticed this with every other person in the psyc wards I am been in. Either they have no family, or a family that doesn't want them to come home and instead continue "treatment" in the psyc ward. 2 of my room mates had no where to go to and had to stay an addition 5 days after being cleared as voluntary because they were having placement issues.
Keep your keys on you and cook your own food. I hope you can get well/deal with this without medication. I hate meds too invega fucked me royally. I hope everyone else is doing well. I am very slowly getting better, I am about 4 months in, and I hope next month is a big inprovement. Only about 6-8 weeks ago I was having akathisia still so I have inproved greatly as far as that goes.
 
I just registered since I just started Invega Sustenna and got the 2nd shot on Feb 15, 2017. I am due for the next monthly shot on March 15th but do not plan to take it anymore. The side effects I noticed were too great for any supposed benefit ( I do not think I have paranoid schizophrenia, as I think the Dr misdiagnosed this)1. extra saliva production w some drooling & speech interference from the saliva 2. Extreme muscle weakness to the point of finding it hard to stand 3. No semen output on ejaculation 4. reduced sex drive after my 1st ejaculation a week ago 5. I get & maintain an erection but don't have the desire to finish and it does not feel like I can finish so I give up and stop the stimulation as I have little interest. I also noticed that the high from marijuana infused coconut oil is multiplied about 4x when combined w IS and the high lasted 24 hours. I went to my hematologist (not the prescriber) and could not stop talking to anybody that would listen. I was high as a kite but not as much as the night before where any functioning with people would have been difficult. Thanks for reading.
 
Thanks for the great input . I am off to bed and have to study this thread more closely . I am glad I found the thread and the vast experience of people here.
I thank God almost every day for the internet. best invention since ice cream .
 
Thanks for the great input . I am off to bed and have to study this thread more closely . I am glad I found the thread and the vast experience of people here.
I thank God almost every day for the internet. best invention since ice cream .
You are in for a ride. I had anhedonia so bad I couldn't bring myself to do anything, I would just stare at the clock all day waiting to go to bed. I hope you get lucky and don't experience any of this. I am coming out of the anhedonia just slightly and this is after 4 1/2 months off the medication. I am still very anhedonic but not to the point where I refuse to do anything. It does get better though, I can feel myself getting better slowly but surely. From my research it seems like 8-12 months is the time it takes to heal. I hope I get lucky and it doesn't take me that long for some reason. Actually I wish us all a fast recovery! Shay, if you are reading this I would like to hear from you. I hope you are doing better!
 
Unfortunately I deleted my old post just now while editing it. So I am writing it up again (I sometimes feel like I have the worst luck).

@onegreenday. Ejaculation while on Invega will only raise your prolactin levels. Looking at pretty girls is healthy, but don't ejaculate everyday (I am not saying you specifically do that, but I would like everyone to know). I know it is frustrating when your libido is not there, and you just want your old life back, just the same as I do, but if you want to get over Invega, please refrain from ejaculation. Every time you ejaculate your dopamine is shut off, and that results in more production of prolactin. With Invega already shutting out your dopamine, you are risking a 10 fold increase in getting a prolatinoma from ejaculating.

Additionally, I would like to add some links to things that are drastically helping me right now. I think everyone can will benefit from these.

1st) Exercising. This video helps a lot. I am doing it everyday. That is all I need for now. I had been doing it everyday for the past 2 years. I know this is hard, even for people who haven't take Invega. So keep up with the exercises at your own pace. Slowly try to match rhythm after a few months. In addition lift weights at a gym. Better yet build a home gym, make your own dumbbells or buy them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISkp7eaoADc&list=WL&index=8

Word of caution though. If you exercise the muscle that was injected right away strenuously, you will only release invega too quickly into your system, and your kidneys won't be able to keep up with producing enough urine to clear it out. For me, I was injected in the glute, exercising the glute made me have severe panic attacks the next day with pain in the left abdomen. I advise that you exercise the muscle you were injected with Invega slowly, until at least the first half-life is over, then you can go full speed. For me, I am now working out the glute, and it feels fine. Next day I am feeling better and better. It has been just over 2.5 months from my shot. Getting sore has been a problem, but that too is improving now by adding whey protein, and giving it time.

2nd) I recently started this brain training program. This along with exercise is helping me a lot with the negative symptoms induced by Invega. I suppose any program is good, but this one really is working for me.
http://www.brainhq.com/welcome#

3rd) I am taking supplements, but only until I am good. I will eventually wean myself off after some time when I am over Invega. Some of the supplements I am taking includes a pill of CDP-Choline, B-complex, ashwaghanda, zinc, and 2-5 scoops of whey protein.
https://www.anabolicmen.com/how-to-lower-prolactin-levels-naturally/
https://www.anabolicmen.com/how-to-increase-testosterone-levels-naturally/


4th) I am drinking detox juice for the liver. I know it a bit distasteful but you just have to.
http://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-18335/13-detox-juices-to-drink-yourself-clean.html
Green tea is also helping.

5th) Here is an interesting book.
https://ronsorg.ch/wp-content/uploads/Dianetics-Modern-Science-Of-Mental-Health.pdf
 
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I've been on the Invega shot for 2 years. 117 mg a month. I just tapered off of it a month ago. I know most people say they don't feel any better after a month but I already feel improvement. I have more energy than when I was on the shot. My mind is starting to feel better and less foggy. And I feel like I'm starting to enjoy tv more. The only withdrawals I'm experiencing is insomnia and disrupted sleep patterns. The medication made me so tired all I wanted to do was sleep so without it I'm having difficulties sleeping. I can drink a little more than before but getting drunk makes me sick. Hoping to be able to smoke weed again someday. I have a terrible reaction to smoking pot and I get very sick even off of one hit although I won't even be high. The only drugs that make me feel normal are drugs like adderall and vyvance. Problem is if your on Invega your doctor won't prescribe you it as a side effect of the drug is pychosis. So I have to get it illegally. I'm hoping to be a success story one day I'll keep ya guys posted.
 
I am assuming some of the guys who have been off it longer must be doing better since they aren't really posting updates. Jmoore, that is awesome. Some people don't have as big of a problem with coming off of it. My first month off I couldn't bring myself to do anything for entertainment. I'm still struggling.
 
hi people, I just wanted to stop in with a little mathematics for those of us who are waiting for the medication to leave our system. While the median half-life is said to be 25-49 days, that is the median, and therefor the half-life can be much longer for some, or much shorter for others. The last time I came off Invega Sustenna, I had been on the 117 mg dose for over a year. So by the time I came off the Sustenna, I was really only coming off 117 mg's. I began to get a bit of weight loss here and there after 4 months off. This time, I am coming off the Sustenna after receiving only the two starter doses, 234 mg's and 156 mg's. This is to say, I am coming off a MUCH higher dose this time- over 3x's the dose I was coming off last time. I'm off 7 months with no weight loss, but it's becoming a bit easier to have a positive outlook on the matter after I realized just how much I am coming off of this time.

Hope all's well with everyone. Good day
 
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