Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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,. I had been hospitalized for the same problems 9 months prior and I was given geodone, lithium and ability. I was not on those medicines to long before I stopped taking them I had severe issues with depression so I stopped. Months later I went through another episode so I had to be hospitalized again. The doctors thought I had schizophrenia but I knew that wasn't true. I was finally diagnosed with schizoaffective bipolar type 1. The doctor and my mom decided to put me on invega due to me stopping my meds the first time so they felt I wouldn't stay taking my medicine. At first I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread. My first month I didn't notice much change. Soon shortly after being on invega for the second month that's when things started to change. I was super depressed and began to lose interest in everything. I lost who I was. This happened to me month after month only becoming more severe. I was experiencing hell on earth. I only dreamt of dying and had suicidal thoughts. When I wasn't at work I was sleeping. When I was awake I was very quiet and emotionless. I had became a zombie. I gained 60 lbs on invega. It made my thought process at a hault. I over ate, overslept and just was plain miserable. I lost friends, I lost jobs, I lost all enjoyment in my life. I thought this was going to be my life forever. I had no hope for the future. I was basically living dead. I was on invega for 10 months. My doctor found out I smoked weed so she said she could not prescribe to to any other medication until I stopped. Smoking weed was the only thing that helped me so I couldn't stop. I decided to switch doctors. When I finally switched doctors i had told him everything I had experienced. He decided it was best for me to get off. I finally had hope for once that my life could get better. Things did not get better right away. Although they gradually did become better. I was on invega from July 2915 to my last injection June of 2016. I had been prescribed Wellbutrin for my depression and risperidone 1 mg for my schizo bipolar disorder. It took 1 month for my anti depressant to kick in. When I got off and was off invega for one month and on an active anti-depressant things started to change. I know it seems fast for me to feel like I was living again but that's because I was on an anti-depressant to speed up the recovery process. I have now been off of invega since my last injection for 3 months. The first month was when my brain started to to clear. I was hanging out with my friend and it hit me like a train that whoa! Omg! I was beginning to feel a change. Month 2 hit me even harder. I was happier and I was having more hope and relief and felt like my life was coming back. It's now my third month and I'm not exactly who I used to be but I'm coming back. Of course I don't want to be who I was before invega because I had schizo bipolar and I was angry and grandiose and all over the place. I would have never appreciated or stayed on my medicine now if I hadn't suffered through invega. Recovery from invega is possible. Medicine is important too though. I believe invega in a last resort, for people with eevee schizophrenic people. It is a hell of a drug. What I went through was hell and wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I lost 10 months of my life. Now I have to start over. Being off invega and a healthy diet it's only been 3 months and I've lost 25 lbs so far. I guess you have to go through hell to get to some peace and to appreciate the beauty in life. I promise you you can get off invega and recover. Give it time. The road is possible if you get on the right meds. Talk to your doctor about your feelings and symptoms. I'm living proof that things can change and get better. I honestly went through hell. I died. It brought me to a dark scary place. Since I've been off I can now see the light. Just knowing I wasn't going to live on the poisonous medicine gave me hope for life and that made my recovery even faster. Keep the faith, keep hope. I'm getting better everyday. I'm a person again and people can tell. I had acted my friends and family they thought they looked at me. It's refreshing to them to see I'm coming back. Feel free to ask me any questions. God bless!
 
That's great to read that some of you are able to experience anger, regardless of it's intencity, I'd give a limb to be able to feel even a negative emotion once more.

Around 4.5 months now for me. Sucks to realise how long it's already been. So much life wasted and left unlived.

Glad to hear of some progress toward recovery by some - If you guys/girls wouldn't mind; could I ask if there is ANYTHING you did at all that you think may have noticibly helped aid or contribute toward your recovery?

For a while now I've been wanting to return to my past life. A large part of which were the use of psychedelics. Never once have i been afraid of exploring my own consciousness thru use of these entheogenic substances - till now.

Had a bad experience a short while back with LSD. I was in the middle of my torture routine, however, with probably 5-10,000mg of Abilify in my blood at the time. Gnarly experience to say the least. And is the reason I haven't done much since. Figured now that i'm somewhat cleaner it could aid in my healing once more.

I dunno.

Clearly it's stupid as I don't feel myself sober as it is. But maybe a more natural alternative? Man I'd love to get myself in a position of medicinal marijuana patient. Now that's a label I'd gladly wear and agree with. Ha.

Can't even recall what it's like to sweat. Let alone venture outside my house. Let alone practicing parkour and yoga out in the bush after a skate or whatever else was the calling of the day.

It's all fucking lost now. Same place my speech as gone I'd guess.

Came close to necking it a few weeks back. Gave myself a chance. Went outside, looked to the stars (which I once was in communion with) and asked that they give me a sign not to do it. A shooting star appeared.

I mean, they drug the life out of me for having unique beliefs. Yet this hasn't changed. Therefore; their drugs do nothing to fix whatever they judge as being wrong. I still believe in highly intelligent life outside the common perceptions of mankind. Not so much talking about aliens; moreso souls or spirits. They spoke with me, and I spoke with them. I didnt need to do anything to achieve this state of 'being'. Aside from improving my own health and strength of soul.

Yet they took that. They took what i held most dearly in life. And as if that weren't enough - so they left me retarded after the fact.

I wish i could hold a pen and write like i used to. But i truly have nothing more to say. No energy than to let my hands go numb and type pointless messages to a forum where nobody shared the same experience in the first place.

So why speak.
 
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;]That's great to read that some of you are able to experience anger, regardless of it's intencity, I'd give a limb to beable to feel even a negative emotion once more.

Around 4.5 months now for me. Sucks to realise how long it's already been. So much life wasted and left unlived.

Glad to hear of some progress towardrecovery by some - If you guys/girls wouldn't mind; could I ask if there is ANYTHING you did at all that you think may have noticibly helped aid or contribute toward your recovery?

Yet they took that. They took what i held most dearly in life. And as if that weren't enough - so they left me retarded after the fact.

Iwish i could hold a pen and write like i used to. But i truly have nothing more to say. No energy than to let my hands go numb and type pointless messages to a forum where nobody shared the same experience in the first place.Sowhy speak.


Hey Zombiemode , Hang in there. I know the shit its so fucked. Do whatever you can, for me it was long walks in the morning or at night by the beach. For 3 days straight I was at 100% even got to exercise to and sweat a bit and it really is like a light switch that flicks on most of what you're waiting for. Theres still is an arche though, but most of the recovery happens all at once in the very end. I should be exercising soon now such as Badrobot did Decicive did and one other who all came around at 9 months praising God and the universe. Im feeling similar even with 2-3 months till I can say I am all natural me again. Hopefully that helps.
Half way is really good progress! Everyone try and just go with the motions. Movies are good too. Netflix is my best advice and Lost is a good show. Weed helped me alot in the end but be careful I wouldn’t recomend it until atleast month 6 or 7 Getting a job will keep the blood and time flowing, mentally and phisically active plus, you can still enjoy savingmost your money with no real desires to spend., But the best news is its truly not forever it has an end. It's the underlying thing you know is worth the wait all along that makes you glad you never quit in the end.

 
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Has anyone fully recovered. I really need to know the truth. Its my 6 month off and I still feel no improvement in the aspect that I can get natural erections. I want my mind to be fully active as it used to be. This is hell on earth. I feel like my life is over. Has anyone been able to loose weight. I haven't been able to loose weight. Has anyone else fully healed. Tim32 how are you doing. You once said you got another anti psychotic injection and that you fully healed shortly after. Are you getting better. I honestly feel like I cant get a natural erection no more. Tina and Bob haven't fully healed after a year which scares the crap out of me. I am sincerely sorry for messaging negative stuff. I know I am being annoying. The guy Ross Jason never fully recovered. I messaged him on facebook if he has fully recovered and he said no. This is scary and at the same time frustrating. Like I don't know how those bastards that make invega sustenna can get away with such a crime. They should die for their sins. They are not human.... People please message me your HONESTY. If your not recovering post it. If your recovering post it. Please give me your honesty. Also, has anyone been able to recover their erections and their libido? Again, sorry for being negative. I'm just letting you guys know the truth that I don't feel recovered at all.
 
@Joey

I can get a natural erection. But No libido and no pleasure when I orgasm. I started running 4 km, Maybe I can do more. 5 Months off. Still very depressed. No energy. Can't enjoy life. No pleasure in anything. Not intereseted in anything.
It's hell on earth. I'm far from recovered. Invega is very different then the AP I had before.
 
Theres so much physique I had that is now replaced with seal flubber. Is there people who recovered exercising again and still have as much definition as they used to in the abs? A 22 yr old man's only dream for a year should not be to sweat agaian.. I have my focus back and it does translate into energy but not exercise energy.
 
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but once it wears off won't my schizophrenia come back?
Well, medication can't exactly cure ones mental illness. Sure, the symptoms of schizophrenia are severely lessened by injection type anti-psychotics, but the "disease" never fully went away. You'll just have to figure out on your own how to manage your symptoms when and if they come back... which they probably will. I can't make any recommendations because I am not a licensed medical professional, but some have said that illnesses like schizophrenia can be managed with very little medication and a good amount of therapy - particularly cognitive behavioral health therapy.

I myself have not tried that particular route, but I've made great strides working with therapists and psychologists who are what I call, Naguals - people who are not only spiritual and open, but gifted and knowledgeable.

There's some hot debate going on now as to the effectiveness of western science, mostly surrounding its medicines and politics regarding the mentally ill. I'm not going to say that shamanism is a better route when it comes to facing a mental illness. This is just one of the current struggles going on with the world as of now. If it were possible for indigenous ways to coincide with western medicine we wouldn't be having these issues - cash cows in mental hospitals... people threatened, bullied, excluded, and targeted for being different and crazy... the system superimposing cruel punishments that are deemed fit to society.

In a better world, there would be more people willing to assist the mentally ill with diminishing their negative symptoms. But I suppose that's just it. The issue we're facing is that not enough people are qualified to be dealing with (let's call them) "situations of the abnormal kind".

I've been bounced from place to place all my life because people who were paid and "dedicated" to helping me, not only fucked up my life - but sent me elsewhere when they realized they were unequipped to handle me as a patient. The mental health systems structures that are failing are the ones that aren't producing results. What gets the job done gets the job done ~ old psychiatrist proverb (haha just kidding). The sad truth of the matter is we are facing on one side a grave evil and on the other side a lesser evil. On one hand, psychiatrists who know only their books and fabricated studies and on the other a group that is solely dedicated to undoing the wrongs that have tormented people with mental issues for so long. I call the off-hand a lesser evil because psychiatry is still sort of a sham. We were not ready, as a society, to begin looking at the strange and elusive nature of the brain. As a result: people viscectamied in the hopes that their genes would not be passed on, people given lobotomies as a way of fixing them, jobs being created so that those taking them up could torture and ridicule these hospital victims... and so on.
 
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I read that risperdal consta has a half life of 4-6 days. Why is there a big difference with invega?
 
Has anyone fully recovered. I really need to know the truth. Its my 6 month off and I still feel no improvement in the aspect that I can get natural erections. I want my mind to be fully active as it used to be. This is hell on earth. I feel like my life is over. Has anyone been able to loose weight. I haven't been able to loose weight. Has anyone else fully healed. Like I don't know how those bastards that make invega sustenna can get away with such a crime. They should die for their sins. They are not human.... People please message me your HONESTY. If your not recovering post it. If your recovering post it. Please give me your honesty. Also, has anyone been able to recover their erections and their libido? Again, sorry for being negative. I'm just letting you guys know the truth that I don't feel recovered at all.

Hang in there bud literally everything you asked about I got back in the last 2 weeks more progress thnan ever to be expected. Its just a matter of waiting, nothing organic withing your brain is gunna be killed permanently. Even tho it is a lobotomy scale moral dilemma.

@Joey
It's hell on earth. I'm far from recovered. Invega is very different then the AP I had before.

I read that risperdal consta has a half life of 4-6 days. Why is there a big difference with invega?

Because its made up of carbonized Palm oil crystals. Hardened by gravity machines to extreme volumes. The element then becomes too rock solid and too small to shatter anymore not to penetrate through the blood-brain-barrier, float unchanged , bypassing natural decomposition in the human bloodstream for up tp a year , permanent in the sense of super forbidden longevity for living conditions because of the gorilla glue they add.
 
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Is anybody able to enjoy Life again?

Yes!

Your looking like the next survivor phuckinvegga

Not much longer and you'll be loving life

Yes I am! I thought you were too!

I don't want to make you guys jealous cuz I know how hard it is to not know when, but there is an exact date for everyone of you. But yes. It's all back. Sex drive and happy feelings focus in the frontal lobe. all came back at once basically. I love music again too. You do recover. I do think there was a correlation between the deltoid flu shot and the recovery that started the day after. Also I should quit weed now to let the real exercise motivation to come back. Ill keep you posted if I find that is 100 I cant tell on the exercise yet.
 
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@phuckinvega

Did you feel miserable on invega? How many shots did you get. And how Long did recovery take?

I had 10 shots of 150mg. 5 months off now. Still feel miserable.
 
Coming close to 10 full months. Body is itching like crazy, the entire organ of the skin, all over like 'randomly', far from the injection sight and near too, maybe the most I've ever itched. I don't think I've itched this much ever during invega before. Saw it's listed as a withdrawal symptom. I'm hoping this unprecedented itching means that maybe I'm coming off of it finally once and for all, especially since it's nearing 10 full months like others have said. Anyone else experience this itching?

I still don't feel anything like near my 100%, but MAYBE I'm beginning to feel more "normal" or beginning to resemble something at all emotionally healthy or spectrum range of emotion. Beginning to. Hope.
 
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@Tim32

Yes I did feel miserable for the last 9.5 months. The lack of feeling really gets to you after so long. However month 7-9 were not as bad because weed was helping me feel more. But nothing like the full recovery. Don't be impatient because its just life and I'm not superhuman. But I can relax and enjoy now. It's like Decisive said. You get that stress back that is healthy and makes you get things done. That stress makes weed harder to manage so becareful in your recovery everyone. Whatever issues be they bipolar or schizophrenia, WILL come back. So don't forget how thankful you are to have it back, if you want to keep it., stay in control of yourself and as an Invega survivor I'm sure you won't make those same mistakes now. That's a lesson to myself too.

Good to hear your success story. At what point did it all come back at once? How many months?
 
@Tim32

Thanks Tim!!! You've had 1,500 mg.s I had 400 and it took 9 months it could take much longer 4 u.. You notice most of your recovery takes place in the last quarter of time tho.

Good to hear your success story. At what point did it all come back at once? How many months?

So I got the second shot on Xmas Day, the first was the 20th, and released from the loony bin For an Xmas in hell for the first shot already kicked in.. It did come all at once for three days but went away for two and now I think its been 4 agin where I have almsost everything back.
 
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Coming close to 10 full months. Body is itching like crazy, the entire organ of the skin, all over like 'randomly', far from the injection sight and near too, maybe the most I've ever itched. I don't think I've itched this much ever during invega before. Saw it's listed as a withdrawal symptom. I'm hoping this unprecedented itching means that maybe I'm coming off of it finally once and for all, especially since it's nearing 10 full months like others have said. Anyone else experience this itching?

I still don't feel anything like near my 100%, but MAYBE I'm beginning to feel more "normal" or beginning to resemble something at all emotionally healthy or spectrum range of emotion. Beginning to. Hope.

If I'm not mistaking I got itchy too there for a while a month or so ago. Another thing that happened too was changes in my scalp. Do D1 and 2 receptors have to do with vitamin D defficiancy? It would make sense because that's what they say causes normal scalp ridge contortions which I got maybe 4-5 times throughout 2016. Now I have an appetite for milk again like I used to too. I know this sounds crazy but get a Flue shot. Its another injection. But that's why its gunna rinse invega out the deltoid.
 
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