Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

[Tina3000]

I dont know for what i am still living for...for who, for what and why

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

For starters, and I know it sounds stupid, but having a positive attitude goes a long way. If you think you'll never recover, then chances are it will take a lot longer.

If you brainstorm a list of those you love, things you like to do, and future goals, you'll find quite a bit to live for I'd imagine.

Keep fighting the good fight!

 

[Ripoffap]

Well, I think all is about survival instinct, not philosophy.

I think that if we cause a lot of "noise" without control, alternatives or consequences could be worst. One thing is clear, we should avoid as much as we can being treated again by other shrinkers because once we have been diagnosed it is very difficult to escape from the "labelling", or which is the same, escape from being drugged again with antipsychotics unless we agree with their theories. So this is our daily fight until we gain enough confidence...

SURVIVAL INSTINCT, nothing else: "I must survive"

 

[PhuckInvegga]

Tina's clearly reached her human capacity for anxiety brought on by these meds. If you know what akethesia is like, and the anxiety that torments your whole being, then you know that Tina is spiritually and physiologically exhausted. I really don't know how you made it a whole year, but it will be really sad if you don't live to see the day you recover Tina, that day DOES exist, it's entirely up to you whether its worth the wait. Please continue to be brave Tina. Invega injections will be discontinued and no one will suffer again as long as we all group together and sue. I am fed up.

Absolutely no cost lawyers unless you win for invega sustena. Lets all make a difference and make Janssen pay us back.
http://www.arnolditkin.com/Practice...eutical-Injury/Risperdal/Invega-Sustenna.aspx

 

[paranoid android]

android, did you get an invega sustenna injection? And if so, did cocaine return any prior feelings?

No i have never had either the injection or oral form of Invega as my shitty insurance only covers Risperidone and Quetiapine out of all the atypicals on the market. If my insurance actually covered Olanzapine that would be the one i would be on as it works better then any other anti-psychotic for me with basically no side effects even at the 20mg mark. I was on Risperidone for a year or 2 who's only active metabolite is Paliperidone aka Invega but it does not work very good in treating my Bipolar and actually makes my insomnia worse which is the last thing i need.

I can't remember if Coke/Crack worked well when i was on Risperidone or not as that was a good 4 years ago that i was on that. But not taking the Seroquel for about a day is enough for Coke or Dextroamphetamine to work fine it seems. Granted Quetiapine is not a potent D2 antagonist at all much unlike Risperidone which is a high potency Dopamine antagonist. Though i would strongly recommend anyone who has to take psych meds to stay the fuck away from these drugs. I have seen Cocaine and Amphetamines make people i know with no preexisting psychiatric condition completely psychotic. So it does not take a genius to figure out that these drugs will make any preexisting condition far worse.

 

[screwinvega]

I'm at day 299 and it's been three days I'm experiencing vibrations at the base of my spine..does it relate to anybody experience?..I'm also feeling off..more than usual.... and I can't see why at the moment.

 

[ZombieMode]

I'm at day 299 and it's been three days I'm experiencing vibrations at the base of my spine..does it relate to anybody experience?..I'm also feeling off..more than usual.... and I can't see why at the moment.

Is it painful? If not, sounds like a 'kundalini' energy awakening. chakras (specifically the root) re-activating itself following the poison elimination from your mind/body/soul.

http://ourlightbody.com/index.php/p...-about-kundalini/kundalini-awakening-symptoms

right down the bottom of that link there is mention of body vibrations.

Could be anything though, really.

...Personally wish I was back in your position. I experienced something similar to what your saying right before i went "psychotic"/"awakened". Had the best 2 months of my life.

Maybe try some yoga, see if that helps

 

[ZombieMode]

I dont know for what i am still living for...for who, for what and why

I'm right here with you Tina.

Music doesn't seem to help, exercise near impossible, can hardly even notice a difference between eating healthy and eating crap! I often think about suicide, am more excited to find out what happens when I die than to continue on being forced to take injections of a poison which has completely destroyed my sense of self/life.

But that would make me another statistic in psychiatry/government/drug company's eyes. I don't want that. I want justice for all who have been involved in this shit!

My friends all tell me to do the things I used to enjoy - but as I'm sure you know, it's just not the same/not possible right now.

So, I spend my days playing video games and smoking cigarettes to pass the time - a temporary solution. How have you been passing time, I could use a fresh perspective (if you don't mind me asking)?

Setting small, achievable daily tasks seem to help - and then crossing them off as I do it, feels like I'm still getting things done.

--

"You don't fit in, you are becoming a problem, you don't pull your own weight, you are not of equal worth to the rest of us, you are sick, you have to go to the hospital, you have to be locked up, you are on a par with prisoner's and lost dogs in our society"...
"Imagine if you were slightly odd, and the solution were to take you and to lock you into a place where everyone was seriously mad! That would drive anyone mad! If you've ever been in a mad house, you know it's an environment calculated to make you crazy and to keep you crazy..."
- Terence McKenna

^ I like those quotes, makes me angry to realize the corruption & this is whats keeping me here: my burning desire to eventually DO SOMETHING about these types of drugs, etc

 

[Invegaman]

Welcome back ZombieMode
How you doing?

 

[Tina3000]

We should all write a book about what happened... and then make a movie out of it to put psychiatry down.

I am on facebook , watch movies, read books nothing too special. thats how i pass my time after t his horrible experience. i am afraid that it will never disappear cause i read cases where people suffered for decades !!!!!!! Do you think natural medicine can help?

 

[Aiden21]

I'm at day 299 and it's been three days I'm experiencing vibrations at the base of my spine..does it relate to anybody experience?..I'm also feeling off..more than usual.... and I can't see why at the moment.

This sounds really bad or really good. It could mean your serotonin receptors are unbinding with your dopamine. have you felt vibrations before in other parts of your body? Also, what do you do to remove invega toxins?

 

[ZombieMode]

Welcome back ZombieMode
How you doing?

Very well mate thanks,

down to 200mg of abilify, though have been supplementing with Uridine, St Johns Wort, Mucuna Pruriens & L-Tyrosine (all dopaminergics - to help resensitize dopamine levels) with great effect. Feeling less numb and dumb. Still early days in my recovery though.

Has anyone researched Iboga?
http://eboka.info/index.php?topic=2696.msg20587#msg20587

 

[paranoid android]

Very well mate thanks,

down to 200mg of abilify, though have been supplementing with Uridine, St Johns Wort, Mucuna Pruriens & L-Tyrosine (all dopaminergics - to help resensitize dopamine levels) with great effect. Feeling less numb and dumb. Still early days in my recovery though.

Has anyone researched Iboga?
http://eboka.info/index.php?topic=2696.msg20587#msg20587

I have to point out that telling anyone with a serious mental illness to try a Psychedelic much less one as unpredictable as Ibogaine is against harm reduction in my opinion. Ibogaine is not like LSD, shrooms or DMT at all as it has far different effects that sound more like actual psychosis as opposed to the pseudo hallucinations you get with say Tryptamine psychedelics. I really think this is a awful idea actually.

Also even though L-Tyrosine and St.Johns wort are so called "natural medications" they have to be treated like any other drug. I myself experienced a manic episode that lasted for months due to mixing L-Tyrosine with Bupropion in a effort to lift the godawful depression i was experiencing. St.John's Wort is primarily a Serotonic i do believe so along with the very real risk of causing Mania and mixed states it is not to be mixed with any anti-depressant especially Serotonic ones such as SSRI's, SNRI's, most Tricyclics or worse yet MAOI's or other Serotonic drugs such as Tramadol, Tapentadol, Meperidine/Pethidine aka Demerol, Dextromethorphan and many others as this has been implicated in cases of Serotonin syndrome which can be life threatening. For harm reductions sake i would not recommend anyboy with a mental illness take St.Johns Wort or any of these drugs without first consulting a doctor and/or pharmacist about it.

Just because a drug is naturally occurring does not mean it is automatically safe to take. Atropine and Scopolamine are both naturally occurring drugs that come from Belladonna and Datura and i think we all know how dangerous that can be. Lithium is also another naturally occurring drug yet when used in the wrong manner can cause severe and sometimes life threatening side effects.

 

[Invegaman]

I don't think I'm going to recover like I dreamed of, Invega is too potent. I've finally come to terms with this hell,I can't even imagine the day waking up and feeling better, I just don't think it's possible and that's just a personal opinion. I've forgotten what normal is and it's so sad and It's only been a couple of months. Are people genuinely recovering from Invega and weed psychosises? It worries me that maybe Tina is right and we're fucked.

 

[Decisive]

@Invegaman
No don't despair, if you read the page 10 of this thread you'll see that after 4 injections of Invega sustenna, I fully recovered after 10 months off this poison ( around the 6th half life), I'm exactly like my prior state and even better because what doesn't kill us makes us stronger! After this experience you'll be more grateful for everything you have, and most importantly the fact that you recovered you health!
Be patient, I went through the same path as yours, it's just a waiting game. Even if you feel nothing for the moment, continue to stimulate your brain and mind by many activities like reading, drawing, watching some series, and especially EXERCISE: because most of your injection is stored in your fat. If you keep doing all this efforts, you have great chances to recover quickly.

Hold on my friend

 

[Aiden21]

[MENTION=391315]Decisive[/MENTION] whats your diet? Take any supplements?

 

[Decisive]

[MENTION=391315]Decisive[/MENTION] whats your diet? Take any supplements?

I'm eating healthy foods, drink about 1.5L of water/day, a lot of vegetables, proteins and fruits, I avoid the junk foods.
I don't take any drugs, just some vitamine D (the one producted by the sun rays) especially during the winter or when there's no sunny days, this vitamine is really important for your brain since it improves your mood and it makes your bones stronger.

 

[Tina3000]

[MENTION=391315]Decisive[/MENTION].... were you psychotic when you have been given these medications?

 

[Tina3000]

By the way...hope you all had a wonderful mothers day with your loved ones

 

[Decisive]

[MENTION=391315]Decisive[/MENTION].... were you psychotic when you have been given these medications?

No I wasn't! My brief psychotic disorder (due to a burnout and emotional shock) only lasted 3 days. When my family took me to hospital I had already recovered my mind before I got injected.