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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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Resistance3 said:
SO you were given 26 shots?! People here received 2 shots and were not able to even function, How did you function? did you feel lack of will? lack of pleasure? euphoria? how did you able to get through without the anti depressant? I understand weigh gain Is a symptom, how about the Anhedonia? you didn't get that? there is a lot of things I would like to know! who forced you to take 26 shots? the police? do you live in Jordan? Man there are people from the first post here like Narshe symbolicone , many other who struggled and you make it sound like 26 shots the only thing you had was weight gain and depression? no panic attacks? akathisia? lack of will? what about your prolactin problem? did it go to normal range? what were you doing to control the prolactin problem due to this drug?

I understand Bipolar needs mood stabilizers why didn't you opt for pills or lithium some other kind of alternative that seems much more simplified man, there are many things I do not understand, I saw your videos you have no weight problem at all as a matter of fact you are in shape man, Look at people like Ross Jason who took half what you took and didn't recover, I am really against these shots and must be a last resort , They are definitely a over kill and too much,
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When I first started the injection, it was during the time when I was hospitalized. I wasn't forced to take the injection after leaving the hospital, I didnt have a community service order, however they instilled enough fear in me that if I don't take the drugs I will end up in the hospital again.. and who wants that right.? And given the fact that I was also hospitalized in Jordan (I live in Toronto btw and my second hospitalization was also in Toronto) I indeed bought into the fact that I need this medication for my well being.

I did benefit from the drugs prescribed because prior to them I was suicidal etc.

What I realize now is that these drugs aren't the only way to heal psychological 'afflictions' and that there are other safer routes to health and healing.

I do have bipolar but more specifically my discharge papers mention that I have schizoaffective disorder, so a mix of bipolar and schizophrenia.. so I do also take lithium and divalproex sodium pills along with invega sustenna injection.

As to the lack of will, akathesia, depression, panic attacks I got them all.. I couldnt keep jobs when if I got them I would sleep for 16 hours a day. The rest of the hours I would spend binge watching stupid tv shows like Arrow.

I would be socially awkward and not be able to properly 'act' or keep a conversation (socially). Was also very insecure.

Like ZombieMode, I became very passive and submissive, two qualities that I wasn't prior to the drugs and psychosis.

@Tim32
Based on professional advise of a Naturopathic Doctor who has helped more than a dozen clients taper and get off antipsychotics he insisted that I do it gradually. Not only that, but my own experience from tapering is difficult and causes backlashes I can only imagine what taking it all of at once would do to me. Just because it stays in the body longer doesnt mean you can take it off in one go... that route will surely shock your body, especially if one has been taking the drug for a while and has become very dependant on it.
 
But Why such a drastic drug like invega its as potent as Haldol , if you were suicidal before them didn't u think u needed SSRIs only? schizoaffective? these people just simply label man, they might not be even sure of the entire thing, I understand that bipolar but they came up with a combo? of these two? did you have loss of libido and sexual dysfunction? and you didn't tell me if you had a prolactin problem , these drugs mess up your hormones, what about anhedonia? and when did it go away? anyway man I'm glad you found your route to what you need and I wish you a effective recovery from this nightmare, thanks for your reply, so can you advice all of us who were misdiagnosed that the drug leaves the system and we will be ok? I mean since you received a lot of shots. I had anger issues and deep anxiety , they misdiagnosed me they thought I was paranoid with psychosis however all I needed was Xanax, they are too stupid thinking they have better plans to overcome other addictive drugs with even more dangerous drugs that hold numerous side effects, I really want to find a way to stop the usage of such dangerous neuroleptics on people that do not need them, they are now prescribing antipsychotics for people with insomnia? this is getting out of control and they just want to sell these drugs! heck all you need is some valerian root, proper sleep timings and with practice u can beat insomnia, this is really messed up man, But I'm really surprised this has worked for you... I want to know more
 
@Resistance3

Yeah, thats what they labelled me, and that's what someone that experiences the things that I do is labelled.. I think. I still don't know what to make of all this but all I know is that while meditating at the retreat, I started to experience different states of mind which included a lot of schizophrenia. It's schizoaffective I guess because not only do I get paranoid, but at times I get manic.. and overly zealous about life and then later on i would get depressed and in severe cases get to the extreme state of having suicidal thoughts. So all in all, to be honest with you, reducing the invega along with discussing it with you guys here on bluelight.org and my youtube channel... i am gaining a deeper understanding of what is going on in my mind, instead of just blindly accepting what the doctors are saying. So I do know that something is 'not right' and it is difficult to cope in life with my given situation... So I do need some help. However, I am, everyday, becoming more empowered as to where I get my help from.

If i were to give you advise, then I would ask you to first determine what kind of lifestyle do you want to have. That will be your destination, then you are to find the best path to you destination. There will always be more than one route.

Now to get on with your questions:
My libido is affected, things are becoming better as I slowly come off invega, but still there is a lack of it. i am able to get a hard on no problem though but what is lacking is desire. I am unable to keep a hold of my desire to go and attain a partner or actively pursue a relationship with a woman. i get jolts of interest where i would go and do my thing but it is not consistent because I am quickly losing interest in continuously pursuing until i achieve my goal (sex, date, etc.)

I have no idea what prolactin is and I googled it and I still only slightly understand and really don't know how it affected me or anything.
I did feel anhedonia, things I used to enjoy I didn't enjoy anymore. For example clubbing, I used to love it... it was a drain and I hated it only until recently did I get my pleasure back from it.
That went away after I started supplementing with Vitamin B, C and Omega-3.. After 3 weeks of these supplements I started feeling much better and energy was being restored. Firmer erections were also achieved and a heftier load when ejaculating.


I would also advise you to also watch the movie "The Secret" you can actually find the full movie on youtube (not the best quality better to actually get it) so heres the link: https://youtu.be/9-mLQgNf8fs
To recover you need to really work on yourself, cleanse your body get in touch with nature, exercise, do yoga. All of these activities will push you out of your 'unhealthyness' and unto your healthier life.

You will also increase your chances of winning if you can actually think really hard about where you would like to be in 3 months 6 months 1 year 3 years 5 years 10 years. Think about how you will be feeling and what you will be doing. This may sound like mumbo jumbo to you but you'd be surprized with how well it works. I was doing this a few months prior to starting the supplements and I myself have had crazy positive results.
 
I know what you mean. I've been using the Tinder app but every time I get a match I lose interest. The only "love" that I actually pursued (to an extent) was a girl I met at a restaurant. I did my best and was "head over heels" for a while, but suddenly I just stopped caring.

Sad, really... the only case of true love I've experienced probably wasn't even real - going on what Invapo said about having intense feelings after coming off the med. Conveniently that was when I entered the first window, after what felt like an ageless wave of Invega terror. I Probably never will feel love. I guess that's just part of being fucking schizo.
 
What is really astounding is how someone can have 26 shots of this poison and claims to be functional. I had 2 shots and i feel like my life has been destroyed and it's been 7 months sense I have taken any drugs.. I walk around with an emptiness inside my head that is indescribable, anedonia at its finest. Also, my body no longer functions the same way it used to, I cant even gain muscle when I exercise. All of this just confirms that these antipsychotic piece of shit drugs really fuck up a person who does not have a mental illness. It completely deprives them of dopamine and serotonin, chemicals that are essential to live a full filled life. On top of all of that there seems to be no improvement month to month. No matter how much you eat healthy, take vitamins, exercise, it all depends on the individual and their individual brain chemistry.. and sadly I'm convinced it really fucked up my natural brain chemistry. Hopefully in the near future my body can naturally right the ship, but till then I see no happiness, satisfaction, or production in life..
 
I read a lot of post in this thread and I see there is little chance of recovery. Im 41 day off injection that is little but I live best years 24 and Im living like oldman I cant get a girl because of my dick cant get hard and when I jerk no semen discharge that is awful .
 
Im exercising every day and dieting hard yet cannot loose a single pound, if anything my weight just keeps going up this is fucking bullshit.
 
You took 26 shots and you are not even aware of what the full side effects are? I really do not understand? so is your bipolar schizophrenia state cured now? you are coming off these poisons? well you need to definitely study and examine more into this, prolactin is a hormone that becomes out of control due to this poison, and when I mean anhedonia not only I mean things once enjoyable, I mean u just lose complete pleasure, these drugs block dopamine, it has numerous side effects on the body, movement disorders etc, it also blocks serotonin therefore you eat more, it blocks some noradrenaline that regulates insulin and you gain weight faster, this is complete bullshit, I am against these drugs and against 60% of modern psychology because most of the psychiatrists don't have a background in medicine and are unaware how this affects the hormones, or are just ignoring this due to motives that are not with good intention, I know what a healthy lifestyle is its living without these drugs that's it , and I want to know who has recovered that were misdiagnosed
 
Hi all, I just want to update on the Ketogenic diet. I have lost roughly 7 or 8 pounds since following a high fat, high protein diet. I do cheat a bit with alcohol, but during the day I feed my body very high fat meats and eggs. The weight loss is not consistent, and therefor does not make total sense, but it's a start while I weight for my bromocriptine to get approved. After bromocriptine lowers my prolactin level, I should be able to lose weight daily (with continuing to follow a Keto diet). Prolactin is what can cause gynecomastia (not sure of spelling), where men will grow breast fat.

It is 14 weeks off the injection for me. As I've said before, I was put on this injection for nearly two years before, but this time I just had the two starter doses. That means I was given the highest dosage available, and a week later I was given the next highest dose. I don't notice a lot right now except for the inability to lose weight, but I'm trying to sort that. I had such an amazing "episode" earlier this year that I still carry those feelings with me. You see?- my "illness" keeps me sane. :')

Hope everyone is keeping busy. Sorry I can't offer insight to things like anhedonia, but I think a reason I do not realize lack of interest in things is because I am constantly keeping myself busy. My struggle with weight keeps me pushing to win the battle and get my body back------ FREEDOM. Just to reiterate, prolactin and sugars are likely to be what is keeping you from being able to lose weight. Good luck everyone.
 
Hitman... that sucks dude... I feel you bro... Yeh I mean you got a ways too go but check it out it gets better man I promise.. but diet sleep exercise and sobriety are key, and no masturbating like wait at least like 5-6 days in between each one.. otherwise its gonna take so much out of you physically and mentally at this early stage you won't have time for a nice walk to the gym to stretch out and just do some pulls up sit-ups and mountain climbers and sit-ups and lunges with medicine ball.. your strong.. you'll get through this.. just hydrate flush eat veggies like Kale and Spinach(light on Spinach though they cause kidney stones which also cause male problems but thats long term usage) put kale and spinach into a blender with apples pineapples and bananas.. its pretty fire dont forget water ice and vanilla yogurt (only dairy thats good) high fiber high protein OIKOS BLACK is the best CRUCIAL

and also look into buying a phillips stool softener at Rite Aid CVS or Walgreens.. or Metamucil high fiber... Prunes Water Coffee couple days a week early in the morning to help in the morning with the restroom.. Multi vitamin for sure... and look into B-Vitamins take both after breakfast preferably the biggest meal of the day in the morning... over 80% of the radiation is recovered in the Urine so make sure to drink ALOTTA WATER.. . I got 234 156 and 117 in Feb March and April so I got 507 of this shit it in me if 468 is about 20 months then 507 is 21.6666667 (21 1/3) because 468/507= 20/21.67 so that day will be sometime in early Jan-March 2018

I'm about 6 Months and 8 Days off this shit.. so about 30% I'd say it can only improve from here if Stay sober, don't fap, exercise, hydrate, eat healthy, wake up and fall asleep as early as possible and get sunlight and be up when the sun rises.. its naturally healthy for our mood.. it'll elevate mood and improve arousal.. sleeping all day leads to depression... the brain needs to readjust after this shit is cleared from our system and isn't blocking our dopamine and seretonin receptors.. make sure you guys ASK ABOUT CONCERTA... if they give the non-sense about stimulants causing pyschosics.. agree to take a mood stabilizer... depakote or LaMictal... WE CAN DEFEAT THIS PLAGUE lets be the ones that lived to tell the tale.. and became stronger from this BACKBREAKING experience... I box every day.. I'm so angry guys... fuck,lol>
Because I am not distracted by women anymore I honestly have a very clear direction and goal in my life.. Don't get me wrong there great... but after there like 45 and were 45 its whatever man straight up.. best not to waste your time on it thinking bout it 24/7 and experience other things in life...

I'm halfway back.. but if this is all I get to.. I won't be stoked but eventually, I'll move on.. And last thing... Use the stimulants in the beginning to get you through it.. but as you get in like 3 or 4 months.. go easy on them so they don't lose there effect... Szia Boys
 
Hey! I found some information on PROLACTIN and INABILITY TO LOSE WEIGHT. Turns out you may be able to help lower prolactin levels with use of supplements such as VITAMIN B6 and VITAMIN E. This may explain why I have only been losing weight every so often as opposed to daily---I had been taking a vitamin which included a large dose of B6, but only on certain days and then I stopped altogether. My weight loss has also stopped. I will post the link and info.

"High levels of the hormone prolactin are a major cause of low testosterone levels,low sex drive, erectile dysfunction and impotency in men.
A surge in the hormone prolactin after sexual orgasm is the reason why men need a refractory period before they can go again.
Many men trying to lower prolactin levels choose to use the prescription drugs Bromocriptine and Dostinex (Cabergoline) but, although these drugs are effective at suppressing prolactin, they are expensive and many men experience a host of side effects whilst using them.
This natural prolactin inhibitor supplement stack will lower prolactin levels in men suffering from high prolactin levels.
In contrast to prescription prolactin inhibitor drugs, these supplements are extremely cheap and will not cause side effects in the vast majority of users.

Primary Prolactin Inhibitor Supplements:
1) Vitamin B6
2) Vitamin E
3) SAM-e

Secondary Prolactin Inhibitor Supplements:
1) Ginseng extract
2) Maca powder
3) Ashwagandha
4) Mucuna pruriens
5) Zinc
6) Ginkgo Biloba"

http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showthread.php?63970-B6-and-lowering-prolactin

Hope this helps!
 
Lui,

it seems you may be one of the only people on this thread who has slowly tapered off the Invega. Sounds like the majority of us got fed up and quit cold turkey! x'D I was just relieved that the doc in charge of my Involuntary Outpatient Commitment allowed me to try something else.

Nice video by the way, but myself in particular would love to hear more about KETO, and spreading the info about ketones v glucose and the whole insulin resistance connection. I know there are a few of us who struggle with weight, while others such as yourself appear to not have been so sensitive to prolactin, insulin and whatever else this med muddles up.

I swear I will win this weight war!
 
Invapo, the info you gathered on Prolactin is great. It explains the reasons i feel like I have much less testosterone and feel like a man than I used to. I'm just being patient so as to get off this shit asap but at the same time ..s...l..o...w..l..y..

Thats because the more I read about it the more I understand that these drugs have horrific withdrawal and may be the reason why many of the people here that quit cold turkey feel like shit.
 
I'm going to have to agree with others who have suggested that Invega Sustenna is okay to quit cold turkey because of it being an 'extended release' injection. I don't really know though; any drug I've come off, I've stopped immediately with no real noticeable effects.

Do you plan on supplementing with B6? I'm going to load up on as much as I can and see if I can rid some more of this horrendous weight.
 
To each his own, whatever works. Just at least have the approval of a medical professional.

B6 is included in the B vitamins that I take.
 
I dont think the weight gain caused by this evil poison is due to the fucked up hormones it causes. It must cause some serious changed in the brian, a certain part of the brain that is responsible for controlling the fat burning of the body. I recall reading once that dopamine receptors are the fat burning control centers of the body. I also read that a girl is 11 months off of this poison and is still unable to loose fat. Im exercising on a daily basis, yet my body is fatter than ever and is getting worse.
 
It wont really make a difference if im on it or off it some people here are claiming they are 7 months off the shit yet are unable to loose weight. The thought of having all this gross fat all over my body that might be permanent is just terrifying.
 
I'm 8 months off, I went from having a decent body to obesity in that space of time, it's the worst fat that's accumulated on the stomach, hips, legs and breasts. It's repulsive. I wouldn't wish this on an enemy. The thing that annoys me it's that most people would assume we exaggerate that it's been caused by Invega sustenna, this should be on the news. I don't understand how some people don't get severely affected or even people that have recovered because I genuinely don't think it's possible, maybe I'm being too negative it's just frustrating to have become a fat retard.
 
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