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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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@NotAPsycho, would that be due to too much potassium? I love bananas, they are like candy. But I am really trying to be fully ketogenic, and see if insulin resistance is in fact the reason I am currently unable to lose weight.

Did you know you can also consume too much water, and it is also a possible cause of death? I heard this when some college 'hazed' someone and had them drink gallons upon gallons, which in turn killed the person. Strange!
 
I highly doubt that any diet/chemical/exercise would make you loose fat if there is antipsychotics in your body. I just really hope i start loosing fat at 9 months like invapo said.
 
One day im suicidal the other im fine. Maybe its the waves like someone else described? Either way ever since my psychitric torment i felt like their is a knife in my chest. The emotional torment( (aside from the mental and pysical torment) is just to much. To went from being a confident, athletic, handsome, motivated, happy, muscular, ripped, upbeat, happy go lucky man to fat zombie with boobs and acne everywhere is keeping me suiciadal.
 
LAZAR, I get the acne from AAP's as well! Crazy, we seem to react much the same. Listen Lazar, I don't mean to push any diet on anyone, but have you looked into the Keto diet? Because you do not consume carbs (ie sugars) your body does not react with any possible spikes in insulin. I actually found a page online one day that says there is a possible new addition to the Invega label that states it may cause Insulin Resistance. It seems this may be what we are dealing with (at least you and I). When you first go on a Keto diet, your body flushes the glucose from its cells and you lose a few pounds of water weight, but I am so far down what seems to be another 3 or 4 lbs! !!!!! I am still a very active person, although I have not restarted running yet, but I waitress and am on my feet a lot at my apartment. It seems my exercise may FINALLY be starting to pay off. Please consider doing a low/no carb diet and check what results you get!
 
Here is something I found about Invega and Insulin Resistance, for anyone interested:

"In another recent change to Invega’s label, it is now apparent that the drug might also cause hyperglycemia (excess sugar) and diabetes. Atypical antipsychotics cause the body to metabolize fat instead of carbohydrates, leading to insulin resistance to the excess carbohydrates. At the same time they promote fat accumulation."

I was too busy cooking breakfast: 4 eggs cooked in heaps of coconut oil and leftover animal fats, to find it a minute ago. It seems I am not getting enough calories yet as I woke up feeling nearly sick. I'm eating no bananas today, just eggs, oil, and meat (plus a bit of peanut butter, my cheat treat), also bits of broccoli here or there. I'm going to see where I am with this diet in another week. So far it seems a little good to be true. Could I actually have lost 3 or 4 'real' pounds?....
 
Invapo,

It is very real and you will continue to lose weight quickly in your first month (hopefully) and as for the feeling sick part.. well.. you could be going through what is called keto sickness, I didn't have it much but most people who start on the keto diet do (lasts about a week).

It's great to have a like-minded friend on here, please keep up updated with your mental, physical and spiritual wellbeing.

Best,
 
Lui,

I will be sticking with the keto diet at least for the rest of this year, to see how I do with it. For some odd reason I have been craving beef lately (very odd considering all the years I spent as a vegetarian in my younger years), so I mean it's even better that my body is craving it. Maybe it is trying to tell me something.

I have heard of the Keto flu- my brother's wife did very well on Keto when she did it. I am familiar with the illness I felt this morning though; I am like 99% sure it is due to lack of calories. I sipped on coconut oil coffee all night at work last night, but apparently that was not enough. I even cooked two beef burgers before bed, with oiled broccoli, and plenty of mayonnaise. Not enough.

It is good to see you are awake, Lui! I was up till nearly five in the morning this morning. I have not been up that late in so long. We'll see how I function at work tonight. I was doing so well last night, like no mistakes and very calm. I'm just very excited at the possibility of fat loss. It's been three months that I've been stuck with all this fat. I will definitely post updates!
 
invapo,

oh yeah keto 'flu' not sickness, my bad. You'd be surprised that I didnt sleep till 6 in the morning today as well, but I woke up around now. Still feeling kind of tired but excited to be making some bullet proof coffee...mmmmm.. how i love that coffee.I plan to stay awake till midnight where hopefully I will be resetting my biological clock by doing so and getting back to 'normal'.

About Invega,
I have been noticing more vivid thoughts and ones that interact with the world so the way i respond to these thoughts keeps my feeling a certain level... Like yesterday I was out clubbing and I 'knew' what to do in order to keep my energy up...

I guess thats because I'm more of a thinker than a feeler.. I have to think about who to talk to and who to dance with as opposed to feeling it out. So my mind it starting to be more demanding of me but with positive results, i had a ton of fun last night.

I remember when i was going out clubbing with a full dose of invega how I hated it so much, even though i have always loved clubbing.. but it sucked ofcourse when i was on this fucked up drug...

Anuyway, this is the latest..

Best,
 
Lui,

I remember reading that someone had mentioned they felt Invega made them more 'logical.' I think this in a way ties into what you were saying about thinking and not feeling. I remember in the summer I had to think everything through so that I would have something to do at all hours of the day, I really had to plan everything out.

I have NEVER gone out clubbing, but it seems somewhat appealing. I just hung out with a new friend last night, chatting while he rolled me a few packs of cigarettes. Much more calm night most likely. Do you even drink when you go out right now, or are you strict to keto? I'm trying to set a time when I will have a drink again, like maybe if I lose ten pounds I will have a celebratory night out.

I will be so thankful if this perceived weight loss is NOT too good to be true, and is just True!
 
Well, Invapo.. The thing is i'm not sure what are the things that the invega brings about, and what are the changes that happened in my physiology after my meditation experience I had that I explained in the video. But in all cases, I have developed a sense of trust in myself like I have never had before, and I trust myself almost completely now and I do not rely on other peoples opinions and/or advice than I used to prior to all of this. I have to be careful, though, because listening to these thoughts are what got me into the hospital in the first place. However, what keeps me reassured somehow is that both times I was hospitalized I had just started taking some form of medication. So I kind of believe that my hospitalization was due to an impaired state of mind caused by other drugs I was given.

I don't drink, I pretty much stopped drinking after keto because what happens is that with invega and other meds im taking drinking in and of it self makes me want to pass out... i dont get drunk, or jolly or anything.. but i still drank anyway because all of my friends drink and i enjoy it. However, when I started Keto, not only are there disadvantages to drinking.. but the negative feelings from drinking that i got also amplified, so one drink makes me want to sleep and it sucks... so i stopped it all together.

Now when I go out clubbing and everything I would say that I am able to have more fun than the people who are drinking weather I'm chatting up/dancing with females or just vibing to the music. I don't miss drinking at all and I love the feeling that I have now that my body is lacking all those toxins.

I confirm that for anybody that wants to feel as good as I do I would really recommend you meditate, I can confirm from many years of experience that it truly elevates your mood. You become more detached from external stimuli and rely more on your 'True' Self (Which is always with you- even when you die) for happiness. In addition, I can attest that taking my life to a positive direction after the downward spiral of invega+ began when I restarted my meditation practice.

I'm glad that you are having a good and well balanced life.. Working and hanging out with friends that's great, keep it up !;)

And yes, invapo, I am familiar with the reddit keto forum and is my goto source for most things keto :)
 
Lui,

I am only working so that I can get 12 months of employment in and qualify to be a peer specialist. Then I want to do that for a year or so, and then I SO very much want to be an airline stewardess. I would love to be out traveling, and get to be the size I want to be. Every time I get to be just over one hundred pounds, I get shot with these medications. If I can get through a few years of stability, I want to take off on an airline.
 
In the states. You are in Canada? I think we are now required to have a passport to travel there! Delicious maple syrup.
 
I smoked weed last night.

Well, I didn't really smoke, I just took a puff and didn't even inhale.. it was part of a joke. My friend passed me the joint (knowing that I don't smoke) and I played along. However, I did feel the effects. Of course, it was very mild, but the THC must have been absorbed through the linings of my mouth!

Ever since my psychotic episode I haven't reacted well at all to marijuana. I get extremely paranoid and it just kills all my good mood my good vibes and everything.

It's very strange because I used to enjoy it a lot when I was in college. I used to smoke it on the daily, but now I can't stand it.

I've read on here that many of you do enjoy the occasional or even daily toke, is this the case with most people or are there some that can't tolerate it?

would love to know your experience with weed.

Best,
 
invapo said:
@NotAPsycho, would that be due to too much potassium? I love bananas, they are like candy. But I am really trying to be fully ketogenic, and see if insulin resistance is in fact the reason I am currently unable to lose weight.

Did you know you can also consume too much water, and it is also a possible cause of death? I heard this when some college 'hazed' someone and had them drink gallons upon gallons, which in turn killed the person. Strange!
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Well that, and the radiation that bananas hold. Granted, you'd have to eat a LOT of bananas. Lol. I read it on a Snapple cap a few days ago.
 
Invapo,
to answer your previous question about NACs is essentially N-acetyl cysteine which is good for stabilizing the depression in bipolar cases. It has been mentioned in this thread earlier and I felt obliged to support the claims even though I haven't been taking them for that long.
Btw, your healthcare is covered by insurance is it?
 
I smoke weed every day. Since I started smoking weed, I can enjoy Life again. And my libido has returned.
 
Again, not to be a dick, but the literature concerning cannabis use and schizophrenia clearly concludes that it makes things worse. I've heard though of people with psychotic disorders smoking very small amounts and reporting being fine after. But no studies confirm this. I recommend not using it at all. Instead, promote healing through constructive activities like reading, exercising, cooking, or doing good things for others. No person is an island. There are people out there who will be empathetic about your struggles and who will want to help. People beyond just doctors and therapists.
 
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